Another pretty good start for Doyle

[Shady]

4 1/3 innings, gave up 1 ER, 2 hits, 1 BB and 5 Ks.

[ramfandan]

4 1/3 innings, gave up 1 ER, 2 hits, 1 BB and 5 Ks.

Thanks, Shady , for the update ... love the 5 K's with only 1 BB Once again good strikeout rate .. 5 for 4 1/3 Just like in college

[CorneliusWolfe]

4 1/3 innings, gave up 1 ER, 2 hits, 1 BB and 5 Ks.

Good line. I tend to agree with those who say we spent a #5 overall on a guy who projects as a bullpen arm, but I hope we’re wrong.

[An Old Friend]

I was told he’s already a bust

[rockondlouie]

4 1/3 innings, gave up 1 ER, 2 hits, 1 BB and 5 Ks.

5 - 1 KO-BB rate is really good to see!

It's all about control w/his high octane gas.

[moose-and-squirrel]

pitch count?

[craviduce]

pitch count?

pulled at 75 after 1st batter/out in the 5th. If he can maintain the 75 on a consistent basis, that would be good thing....so far he's been pulled early depending on how much he's been torched in the 1st or 2nd inning.

Need the consistent long outings...or long for him in his early pro developement....75 pitches

[rockondlouie]

pitch count?

pulled at 75 after 1st batter/out in the 5th. If he can maintain the 75 on a consistent basis, that would be good thing....so far he's been pulled early depending on how much he's been torched in the 1st or 2nd inning.

Need the consistent long outings...or long for him in his early pro developement....75 pitches

Realistically duce, how close is he to St. Louis?

Could he be ready for a September call up or do you think 2027 is more likely?

[craviduce]

pitch count?

pulled at 75 after 1st batter/out in the 5th. If he can maintain the 75 on a consistent basis, that would be good thing....so far he's been pulled early depending on how much he's been torched in the 1st or 2nd inning.

Need the consistent long outings...or long for him in his early pro developement....75 pitches

Realistically duce, how close is he to St. Louis?

Could he be ready for a September call up or do you think 2027 is more likely?

How close? After one really good start? 2 years at the best...that's without one hiccup in a start, one hiccup with an injury, one hiccup with the grip of the baseball and he loses feeling and progress in his secondary pitches. We're not dealing with a "Switch" that needs to be flipped like in Hitting. This guy is so far behind with his secondary pitches it's going to take a minimum of 2 Perfect Scenario years to be a starter in the bigs. I want the guy in a Pitching Lab....PRONTO. Pitching in AA, is like him being 15yo, and the opponents are perennial All-Stars with 8 figure contracts....that's for him....it's neato experience, but it's not doing him much good.

2 years...maybe 3 or 4 if you want effective.

2 years if the pitching lab scenario is 1) utilized and 2) works

I can't guarantee any of that, so I'll go with 3-4 years (which includes this one)....

Now, if we're talking as a reliever...that's a different story.

[ScotchMIrish]

5 games. 2 good starts. He is young. Not sure why they put him AA.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... &year=2026

[CrownRoyalCaramel]

pitch count?

pulled at 75 after 1st batter/out in the 5th. If he can maintain the 75 on a consistent basis, that would be good thing....so far he's been pulled early depending on how much he's been torched in the 1st or 2nd inning.

Need the consistent long outings...or long for him in his early pro developement....75 pitches

Realistically duce, how close is he to St. Louis?

Could he be ready for a September call up or do you think 2027 is more likely?

How close? After one really good start? 2 years at the best...that's without one hiccup in a start, one hiccup with an injury, one hiccup with the grip of the baseball and he loses feeling and progress in his secondary pitches. We're not dealing with a "Switch" that needs to be flipped like in Hitting. This guy is so far behind with his secondary pitches it's going to take a minimum of 2 Perfect Scenario years to be a starter in the bigs. I want the guy in a Pitching Lab....PRONTO. Pitching in AA, is like him being 15yo, and the opponents are perennial All-Stars with 8 figure contracts....that's for him....it's neato experience, but it's not doing him much good.

2 years...maybe 3 or 4 if you want effective.

2 years if the pitching lab scenario is 1) utilized and 2) works

I can't guarantee any of that, so I'll go with 3-4 years (which includes this one)....

Now, if we're talking as a reliever...that's a different story.

He is behind on his secondary offerings, which is why, as a Tennessee grad, I didn’t want to see us draft him. But I don’t think it will take 3-4 years for him to get here. I think 2 as long as he progresses. He does pitch high octane, up in the zone a lot, and uses a lot of his body to generate that MPH. If he can improve the secondaries, he would be here end of 2027. But I always thought, he was going to be a reliever. Not sure why they took him at #5 to be honest.

[craviduce]

pitch count?

pulled at 75 after 1st batter/out in the 5th. If he can maintain the 75 on a consistent basis, that would be good thing....so far he's been pulled early depending on how much he's been torched in the 1st or 2nd inning.

Need the consistent long outings...or long for him in his early pro developement....75 pitches

Realistically duce, how close is he to St. Louis?

Could he be ready for a September call up or do you think 2027 is more likely?

How close? After one really good start? 2 years at the best...that's without one hiccup in a start, one hiccup with an injury, one hiccup with the grip of the baseball and he loses feeling and progress in his secondary pitches. We're not dealing with a "Switch" that needs to be flipped like in Hitting. This guy is so far behind with his secondary pitches it's going to take a minimum of 2 Perfect Scenario years to be a starter in the bigs. I want the guy in a Pitching Lab....PRONTO. Pitching in AA, is like him being 15yo, and the opponents are perennial All-Stars with 8 figure contracts....that's for him....it's neato experience, but it's not doing him much good.

2 years...maybe 3 or 4 if you want effective.

2 years if the pitching lab scenario is 1) utilized and 2) works

I can't guarantee any of that, so I'll go with 3-4 years (which includes this one)....

Now, if we're talking as a reliever...that's a different story.

He is behind on his secondary offerings, which is why, as a Tennessee grad, I didn’t want to see us draft him. But I don’t think it will take 3-4 years for him to get here. I think 2 as long as he progresses. He does pitch high octane, up in the zone a lot, and uses a lot of his body to generate that MPH. If he can improve the secondaries, he would be here end of 2027. But I always thought, he was going to be a reliever. Not sure why they took him at #5 to be honest.

panic from a team that didn't want to draft a High School SS. And probably ego where they believe they can develop the High K% pitchers into an MLB starter. I'm not against that philosophy, per se. But I'm not fan of starting him in AA so naked. His contemporary/equal/rival, Kade Anderson (3rd overall pick, LSU) is ready for AAA. He's got a 0.39 ERA with the Travelers (Seattle AA) in 5 starts.

[Bob Kunush]

4 1/3 innings, gave up 1 ER, 2 hits, 1 BB and 5 Ks.

Good line. I tend to agree with those who say we spent a #5 overall on a guy who projects as a bullpen arm, but I hope we’re wrong.

They keep evolving rotations like they are everyone will be potentially a bullpen arm someday as they will tag team openers and those that follow them. Fewer pitchers will be specialists and mostly will be used at end of games. Each longer arm will be trained to pitch 3 to 5 innings on a more constant basis.

[rockondlouie]

pitch count?

pulled at 75 after 1st batter/out in the 5th. If he can maintain the 75 on a consistent basis, that would be good thing....so far he's been pulled early depending on how much he's been torched in the 1st or 2nd inning.

Need the consistent long outings...or long for him in his early pro developement....75 pitches

Realistically duce, how close is he to St. Louis?

Could he be ready for a September call up or do you think 2027 is more likely?

How close? After one really good start? 2 years at the best...that's without one hiccup in a start, one hiccup with an injury, one hiccup with the grip of the baseball and he loses feeling and progress in his secondary pitches. We're not dealing with a "Switch" that needs to be flipped like in Hitting. This guy is so far behind with his secondary pitches it's going to take a minimum of 2 Perfect Scenario years to be a starter in the bigs. I want the guy in a Pitching Lab....PRONTO. Pitching in AA, is like him being 15yo, and the opponents are perennial All-Stars with 8 figure contracts....that's for him....it's neato experience, but it's not doing him much good.

2 years...maybe 3 or 4 if you want effective.

2 years if the pitching lab scenario is 1) utilized and 2) works

I can't guarantee any of that, so I'll go with 3-4 years (which includes this one)....

Now, if we're talking as a reliever...that's a different story.

Thx, good take

Guys here on 101.1 were talking last week like he'd be up here later this year.

[craviduce]

pitch count?

pulled at 75 after 1st batter/out in the 5th. If he can maintain the 75 on a consistent basis, that would be good thing....so far he's been pulled early depending on how much he's been torched in the 1st or 2nd inning.

Need the consistent long outings...or long for him in his early pro developement....75 pitches

Realistically duce, how close is he to St. Louis?

Could he be ready for a September call up or do you think 2027 is more likely?

How close? After one really good start? 2 years at the best...that's without one hiccup in a start, one hiccup with an injury, one hiccup with the grip of the baseball and he loses feeling and progress in his secondary pitches. We're not dealing with a "Switch" that needs to be flipped like in Hitting. This guy is so far behind with his secondary pitches it's going to take a minimum of 2 Perfect Scenario years to be a starter in the bigs. I want the guy in a Pitching Lab....PRONTO. Pitching in AA, is like him being 15yo, and the opponents are perennial All-Stars with 8 figure contracts....that's for him....it's neato experience, but it's not doing him much good.

2 years...maybe 3 or 4 if you want effective.

2 years if the pitching lab scenario is 1) utilized and 2) works

I can't guarantee any of that, so I'll go with 3-4 years (which includes this one)....

Now, if we're talking as a reliever...that's a different story.

Thx, good take

Guys here on 101.1 were talking last week like he'd be up here later this year.

as a reliever, sure...later this year. But why would you do that to your #5 overall pick in his first season as a Pro?

[rockondlouie]

pitch count?

pulled at 75 after 1st batter/out in the 5th. If he can maintain the 75 on a consistent basis, that would be good thing....so far he's been pulled early depending on how much he's been torched in the 1st or 2nd inning.

Need the consistent long outings...or long for him in his early pro developement....75 pitches

Realistically duce, how close is he to St. Louis?

Could he be ready for a September call up or do you think 2027 is more likely?

How close? After one really good start? 2 years at the best...that's without one hiccup in a start, one hiccup with an injury, one hiccup with the grip of the baseball and he loses feeling and progress in his secondary pitches. We're not dealing with a "Switch" that needs to be flipped like in Hitting. This guy is so far behind with his secondary pitches it's going to take a minimum of 2 Perfect Scenario years to be a starter in the bigs. I want the guy in a Pitching Lab....PRONTO. Pitching in AA, is like him being 15yo, and the opponents are perennial All-Stars with 8 figure contracts....that's for him....it's neato experience, but it's not doing him much good.

2 years...maybe 3 or 4 if you want effective.

2 years if the pitching lab scenario is 1) utilized and 2) works

I can't guarantee any of that, so I'll go with 3-4 years (which includes this one)....

Now, if we're talking as a reliever...that's a different story.

Thx, good take

Guys here on 101.1 were talking last week like he'd be up here later this year.

as a reliever, sure...later this year. But why would you do that to your #5 overall pick in his first season as a Pro?

Plus what I know about C. Bloom he isn't one to rush quality starting pitchers to MLB.

He wants them to be totally ready to start, fully prepared and be successfully as they can be once they're up here.