victor scott,how much longer?

[Melville]

Victor has had a nice shot, he has shown little improvement, and he has regressed this year. Memphis is nice in summer.

Have you been to Memphis?
Is it ever nice?

Of course. Nice casinos, nice music scene, nice bbq, nice minor league team. Nice.

Rendezvous offers outstanding BBQ certainly - but I would advise partaking only in daylight and in a large group.
Autozone Park is nice - but let's be real, the attraction is the Cardinals connection.
Peabody is a nice place to stay - but don't cross the street.
Reality is, Memphis is a dirty, crime ridden dump of a city.

Unfortunately, Mel, I must agree. It's a shame, really.

As a 72-year-old, I am sad about the decline of many American cities. My career took me worldwide, and I felt safer in many cities in other nations. Lots of root causes we could discuss (and honestly argue about) in other forums. For now, I won't go there, since I want to keep Cards Talk about baseball, sports, and our Beloved Birds, rather than politics and urban issues.

Back to watching hockey....I'll get back to CardsTalk a few weeks from now. (Too bad the Blues aren't in Stan's Can Tournament, but I still enjoy "The Fastest Sport of All".)

Cities decline for the same reason as MLB teams:
Poor decision making at both the individual and leadership levels.
I will leave it at that.
Enjoy the hockey.

[rockondlouie]

TIC-TIC-TIC

The clock is ticking on VSII w/Noot coming back sometime in May?

N. Church has obviously surpassed him as the choice in CF when Noot is back.

[Bob39]

the guy simply cannot hit...he has zero power and is h9tt9ng all of 190...he seems to refuse to hit down on the ball and make use of his speed...seems to me he should not be out there other than a defensive replacement or pinch runner

Intentionally trying to hit grounders is a losing proposition. The majority of his PA's in the majors have resulted in ground balls where he's hitting .200/ .200/.206/.406

Came here to say this. Major league infielders are too good to plan an offensive approach around infield singles. Not only do you have to hit it on the ground, but you almost have to try and hit it softly. I don't know if that is even possible.

[smilinjoefission]

He's got a great glove, but a noodle arm...he's NOT a MLB CFer...and he can't hit

[nebfan]

He is ready to go the way of Michael Siani. Church has earned his spot. Love to see him as the CF going forward Church has plenty of speed and an arm too

[okcardfan]

VSII is in jeopardy of being supplanted by Chase Davis. As good a CF, I think, as VSII, and a great arm. Strikes out like VSII, but has power much greater than Vic. Younger and cheaper too.

Davis getting two months at Memphis--and this may well be why Davis was moved up from Springfield to Memphis despite mediocre numbers there--may establish Chase Davis as a major potential part of the StL OF heading into next season albeit in a reserve role.

Better than Victor, imo. (I know, damning with faint praise.)

[StlMike1969]

VSII is in jeopardy of being supplanted by Chase Davis. As good a CF, I think, as VSII, and a great arm. Strikes out like VSII, but has power much greater than Vic. Younger and cheaper too.

Davis getting two months at Memphis--and this may well be why Davis was moved up from Springfield to Memphis despite mediocre numbers there--may establish Chase Davis as a major potential part of the StL OF heading into next season albeit in a reserve role.

Better than Victor, imo. (I know, damning with faint praise.)

VSII will eventually be traded as a throw in on a bigger trade or outright released. He will not see the Cards MLB team again. They brought him up too soon hoping to catch lightning in a bottle because of his steals in AA. Moz was thinking Vince Coleman prodigy and bet wrong. Victor should always be thankful to Moz because he got to see a big league paycheck for a couple years to help him in his after baseball life. The only way VSII could have made it stick was to embrace the get on base and disrupt pitchers mentality. All he had to do was hit for a decent average and take walks so he could steal bases. It would have been enough. A guy like him should hit 40+ doubles a year and 5 triples. He never made any of it happen and I do not see he has the potential to do so now. Baez, Davis and others are on the way that have much better hit and power potential. He is done.

[Futuregm2]

VSII is in jeopardy of being supplanted by Chase Davis. As good a CF, I think, as VSII, and a great arm. Strikes out like VSII, but has power much greater than Vic. Younger and cheaper too.

Davis getting two months at Memphis--and this may well be why Davis was moved up from Springfield to Memphis despite mediocre numbers there--may establish Chase Davis as a major potential part of the StL OF heading into next season albeit in a reserve role.

Better than Victor, imo. (I know, damning with faint praise.)

Major part?

[Melville]

the guy simply cannot hit...he has zero power and is h9tt9ng all of 190...he seems to refuse to hit down on the ball and make use of his speed...seems to me he should not be out there other than a defensive replacement or pinch runner

Respectfully, the 1980's are long gone and not returning.
The days of bouncing balls off the astro-turf and legging out infield hits are best remembered by visiting a team's local hall-of fame.
Scott and the team would be best served to return his approach to that of 2023.
He is a strong kid, not some rail-thin one-dimensional speedster.
He is built more like Lankford than McGee.
Hard contact focused on a line-drive producing swing which puts the ball in the outfield is the only thing which will help him reach his potential.
As I have correctly stated many times - the key to success is to prioritize the strengths of each player and avoid trying to turn them into something they are not physically well suited to be.
The Cardinals repeated the same mistake with Walker, Gorman, and Scott.
Walker broke through when he rejected that the Cardinals forced on him for 2 years and simply leveraged the natural strengths of his game (as I correctly advised for 2+ years).
Scott needs to do the same - or go to another team which recognizes this.

[sikeston bulldog2]

How long. To the point. Of no return. No return. How long.

[scoutyjones2]

He done. Him and the KKorn.

Trade em in a package if any team wants em. Highly doubtful.

They can't even hit at AAA.

If they find themselves with another team and succeed, good for them but I highly doubt that happens

[hugeCardfan]

the guy simply cannot hit...he has zero power and is h9tt9ng all of 190...he seems to refuse to hit down on the ball and make use of his speed...seems to me he should not be out there other than a defensive replacement or pinch runner

Respectfully, the 1980's are long gone and not returning.
The days of bouncing balls off the astro-turf and legging out infield hits are best remembered by visiting a team's local hall-of fame.
Scott and the team would be best served to return his approach to that of 2023.
He is a strong kid, not some rail-thin one-dimensional speedster.
He is built more like Lankford than McGee.
Hard contact focused on a line-drive producing swing which puts the ball in the outfield is the only thing which will help him reach his potential.
As I have correctly stated many times - the key to success is to prioritize the strengths of each player and avoid trying to turn them into something they are not physically well suited to be.
The Cardinals repeated the same mistake with Walker, Gorman, and Scott.
Walker broke through when he rejected that the Cardinals forced on him for 2 years and simply leveraged the natural strengths of his game (as I correctly advised for 2+ years).
Scott needs to do the same - or go to another team which recognizes this.

It's a real marvel that you aren't coaching the team. Here's to revisionist history.

[moose-and-squirrel]

How long. To the point. Of no return. No return. How long.

nice.. Kansas.. where Scott should be exiled to

[sikeston bulldog2]

How long. To the point. Of no return. No return. How long.

nice.. Kansas.. where Scott should be exiled to

It’s sad for me. I like him. But it shows the harsh attrition of the industry. There are 780 rostered players. Tough crowd.

Keeping Kansas- I guess it’s just dust in the wind. Everything; is dust in the …

[JuanAgosto]

He done. Him and the KKorn.

Trade em in a package if any team wants em. Highly doubtful.

They can't even hit at AAA.

If they find themselves with another team and succeed, good for them but I highly doubt that happens

Gorman could if he found an organization & staff that convinced him to use all fields and stop pulling every swing.

Scott? This dude just cant hit. To me, he always seemed like a guy who thinks hes a star.