Church over Scott in CF?

[renostl]

Not giving Torres a shot is dumb.

At his age he really doesn't fit into what they are calling a "rebuild".

If he succeeds, he would totally fit a rebuild. Like Garcia w the Rangers.

He will be 29 July 2nd. No, he would not fit a rebuild. But keep fighting the good fight defending every move this team makes and disagreeing with every one of my posts when you are totally wrong most of the time.

Some hypotheticals.

1. Torres is called up, does really well. Plays with the team for 5 years. That's part of the rebuild.
2. Torres is called up, does really well for a year, then is traded for a good, young MLB reliever.

Does a rebuilding team need a producing OFer? Yes. Does a rebuilding team need good bullpen arms? Yes.

My internet has been in and out this morning.

But what you describing is not a rebuild. I would rather see a younger player playing in the outfield than a 29-year-old rookie.

Sure it’s a rebuild. He’s cost controlled, and has more team control than Sagesse.

A rebuild doesn’t necessarily mean finding a 22 year old who can play here for a decade.

Not in my opinion. And I think you totally wrong with what a rebuild really is, it is not playing 29-year-old rookies who haven't proven a thing. I rebelieve all you want to do is argue.

A players opportunity to prove is dependent on getting an opportunity.
Someone has to say bring him up.

Long careers with a single team are idealistic. What is the average length of time that
an utility type player stays on any one team? Donovan got 4 years, Edman 5.

The Cards just signed a 32 y/o utility fielder to an inexpensive $2M. If able to fill such of
a role with a Torres or other old guys Prieto and Mendoza, for 3-4 seasons how does it become a bad thing for the
roster? Do you think either of those players would block a higher ceiling player?
Trust the system. Better and cheaper will always get the opportunity. More often
when teams don't have to pay for a player to go away as they would with an Urias or higher salaried player.
These players are almost throw away at this point in time and the team by playing them just might be playing the better
player as of today. Better should play.

[Cranny]

Sometimes during a "rebuild" you have to fill in with a few veteran players. Where would we be right now without O'Brien? Some posters unfortunately don't understand that. Also, players peak at different ages. So if a guy like Torres starts to take off at an older age, you have to look at the number of years he's under control rather than his age.

[renostl]

Sometimes during a "rebuild" you have to fill in with a few veteran players. Where would we be right now without O'Brien? Some posters unfortunately don't understand that. Also, players peak at different ages. So if a guy like Torres starts to take off at an older age, you have to look at the number of years he's under control rather than his age.

All true.

[riff raff]

Church is clearly the better player and it's not even close.

Scott has had his opportunity and hasn't taken advantage of it.
I'm not ready to give up on him though. He needs to go down and improve his hitting.
He was really brought up from AAA too soon out of necessity. That being we literally had no one who could play CF.