Wow. Look at the starting pitchers we face

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Check this out. Houston has no stud. Their leading ERA starter has a 6.85 era. Seriously. BUT…..

After that, the next 16 games we face the following-

Miami- Sandy -Meyer
Seattle- Woo-Hitchcock-Gilbert-Castillo
Pitt- Skenes-Keller-Chandler
lAD - Ohtani- Yama- Glasgow-Sheehan
brewers- Miz-Patrick-Woodruff.

A possible 16 games against league level Aces. This will tell us exactly where the offense is.

There’s an old expression, SB - “The bigger they are, the harder they fall”.

Meyer 4.12 ERA / 1.32 WHIP
Woo 2.96 / .092
Hancock 2.27 / .076
Gilbert 4.03 / 1.17
Castillo 5.40 / 1.80
Skenes 4.00 / .094
Keller 2.86 / 1.23
Chandler 3.15 / 1.30
Ohtani 0.50 / .072
Yamamoto 2.10 / .082
Glasgow 3.24 / .084
Sheehan 6.60 / 1.47
Misiorowski 3.32 / 1.02
Patrick 0.95 / 1.16
Woodruff 4.32 / 1.08
Pretty good challenge ahead?
Yes.
All ace level?
No.
No reason STL can't play around .500.

You miss okay an important fact- these games are all consecutive. Majorcwear down. Good news- mostly right handers.

Fully aware of your point that this is a potential consecutive game scenario.
That being true, no reason STL cannot play around .500 over that stretch.

Good morning. By the way nice roll up on the pitcher stats.

Now add in two from KC, two from Oakland, and to top this off- we end this stretch with 4 in SD.

I really tough stretch. We weather this, we may have something.

You are making an outstanding point.
That stretch will indeed be very revealing on a number of levels.
And could pay huge dividends if the clubhouse comes out of it confident that it can compete with anyone.
And legendary Knicks coach famously said, "having momentum is better than getting a 6'11" first round draft pick".
Could help the team avoid the late season collapse under The Marmot the past 2 seasons.
Now, as to whether the ownership would reach the same conclusion and decide to invest in the roster come July, that would be a very interesting question to monitor.

If they invest in roster in July that means a trade or two. One won’t do. Need arm and bat. Have room.

But we have no real ammo to trade away for two such animals.

As you know, my biggest criticism of Bloom (who made some good moves in the offseason) was his complete failure to address the lineup in the off-season.
As stated before, he should have retained Contreras or acquired a quality RH bat in the Donovan deal (which is already proving to be the bad move I said it would prove to be).
Huge strategic mistake in Bloom's part.
As for the pitching, the rotation talent is better than a year ago but is undermined by a manager who is among the worst I have ever seen in directing a starting staff.
No trade can fix that.
That all said, I don't fully agree that the team has no remaining trade ammo.
Pretty clear the team wants to trade Pallante - it is why he is in the rotation.
The same is likely true of May.
They can trade a catcher.
Mootbaar of course - provided he recovers well enough to check out of assisted living.
Mathews and Hence both should have been traded already (I was the only person on the planet who recognized their high-water mark and correctly analyze that they should have been leveraged as trade chips at that moment - and though their value has diminished, it is not too late entirely).
There are other pieces as well.
Again, if DeWitt is willing to take on salary, there will be teams wanting to trade the balance of some contracts and STL has the financial and tradeable assets to make a couple of additions.

Good write. Yes . noot don’t need him around anyhow. Ruin the chemistry.

[ramfandan]

We all know baseball has many cliches .. one of them is ' play them one at a time'
Pro players have a completely different mindset than fans.
Fans sit around looking at the upcoming schedules (like being discussed here ..how we will be in next 30 games etc.)
Major league players approach their games far differently . The season is 6 months long. Players view each game as 'going to work ' each day .
They play a game, might win or might lose. They go home and don't dwell on it . If it was a close loss and one that got away , it doesn't bum them out for they know there are others that break their way too . Each game is a new day at work . If they fretted about the daily outcome like some fans do , they would have ulcers by the 2nd month of the season. Have you ever noticed watching a game you don't see a player hang his head or act upset if a teammate makes an error . If you were at a local softball game, teammates roll their eyes, hang their head , curse, throw down their glove lol etc. Major league players just take the good with the bad at an even keel. They don't get over elated when a teammate hits a HR nor do they rant and rave in the dugout when things go bad. That's what fans do on CT when things go bad. lol
Playing baseball is their daily job and the season is long ..6 months with tons of travel . They are not sitting around looking at the upcoming 30 games. In fact on a off day ,many are playing golf to relax and take their mind off their 'job'... not worrying about who the upcoming pitchers will be.lol

When they get to the park several hours prior to a game to study the opponents that night, work on fielding drills, batting cage ..that is when they flip the switch to get into 'work mode' .. once the game has ended and the shower , dress ,and leave they no longer are dwelling on the game just played. It's over and done with ..in the past . On to dinner and a cold one !

[sikeston bulldog2]

We all know baseball has many cliches .. one of them is ' play them one at a time'
Pro players have a completely different mindset than fans.
Fans sit around looking at the upcoming schedules (like being discussed here ..how we will be in next 30 games etc.)
Major league players approach their games far differently . The season is 6 months long. Players view each game as 'going to work ' each day .
They play a game, might win or might lose. They go home and don't dwell on it . If it was a close loss and one that got away , it doesn't bum them out for they know there are others that break their way too . Each game is a new day at work . If they fretted about the daily outcome like some fans do , they would have ulcers by the 2nd month of the season. Have you ever noticed watching a game you don't see a player hang his head or act upset if a teammate makes an error . If you were at a local softball game, teammates roll their eyes, hang their head , curse, throw down their glove lol etc. Major league players just take the good with the bad at an even keel. They don't get over elated when a teammate hits a HR nor do they rant and rave in the dugout when things go bad. That's what fans do on CT when things go bad. lol
Playing baseball is their daily job and the season is long ..6 months with tons of travel . They are not sitting around looking at the upcoming 30 games. In fact on a off day ,many are playing golf to relax and take their mind off their 'job'... not worrying about who the upcoming pitchers will be.lol

Great write. And true. That’s why they call us fanatics; we’re nuts.

[RamFan08NY]

Good morning.

Check this out. Houston has no stud. Their leading ERA starter has a 6.85 era. Seriously. BUT…..

After that, the next 16 games we face the following-

Miami- Sandy -Meyer
Seattle- Woo-Hitchcock-Gilbert-Castillo
Pitt- Skenes-Keller-Chandler
lAD - Ohtani- Yama- Glasgow-Sheehan
brewers- Miz-Patrick-Woodruff.

A possible 16 games against league level Aces. This will tell us exactly where the offense is.

There’s an old expression, SB - “The bigger they are, the harder they fall”.

Meyer 4.12 ERA / 1.32 WHIP
Woo 2.96 / .092
Hancock 2.27 / .076
Gilbert 4.03 / 1.17
Castillo 5.40 / 1.80
Skenes 4.00 / .094
Keller 2.86 / 1.23
Chandler 3.15 / 1.30
Ohtani 0.50 / .072
Yamamoto 2.10 / .082
Glasgow 3.24 / .084
Sheehan 6.60 / 1.47
Misiorowski 3.32 / 1.02
Patrick 0.95 / 1.16
Woodruff 4.32 / 1.08
Pretty good challenge ahead?
Yes.
All ace level?
No.
No reason STL can't play around .500.

Another thing all of these pitchers have in common. They all lose games on occasions.

[ramfandan]

We all know baseball has many cliches .. one of them is ' play them one at a time'
Pro players have a completely different mindset than fans.
Fans sit around looking at the upcoming schedules (like being discussed here ..how we will be in next 30 games etc.)
Major league players approach their games far differently . The season is 6 months long. Players view each game as 'going to work ' each day .
They play a game, might win or might lose. They go home and don't dwell on it . If it was a close loss and one that got away , it doesn't bum them out for they know there are others that break their way too . Each game is a new day at work . If they fretted about the daily outcome like some fans do , they would have ulcers by the 2nd month of the season. Have you ever noticed watching a game you don't see a player hang his head or act upset if a teammate makes an error . If you were at a local softball game, teammates roll their eyes, hang their head , curse, throw down their glove lol etc. Major league players just take the good with the bad at an even keel. They don't get over elated when a teammate hits a HR nor do they rant and rave in the dugout when things go bad. That's what fans do on CT when things go bad. lol
Playing baseball is their daily job and the season is long ..6 months with tons of travel . They are not sitting around looking at the upcoming 30 games. In fact on a off day ,many are playing golf to relax and take their mind off their 'job'... not worrying about who the upcoming pitchers will be.lol

Great write. And true. That’s why they call us fanatics; we’re nuts.

Thanks, Sikeston bulldog ! While I don't personally know any pro baseball player , when I lived in Wisconsin I did hang with a Green Bay Packer buddy now and the as we went to the same HS . A couple times met him after a game for a bite to eat . When we did , we NEVER talked 'shop ' .. didn't rehash the game just played. When you go out with someone , do they usually want to talk about their job that day ? NO !
He wasn't a star player so often was not recognized facially by Packer fans at the pub.( he rotated in and out on D line ) . The thing he hated most was to be recognized and have a guy ask him about the game that day. He often would wear a baseball cap and have sunglasses on indoors so not be possibly recognized. We would get high top tables in the corners if possible. The owner of the pub where we would go would know he was there but keep it hush hush and why we went there. Yes you are right. Pro athletes are much different than us fanatics. BTW I am sworn to secrecty about my anonymous player friend . lol was years ago now.

[zuck698]

Good morning.

Check this out. Houston has no stud. Their leading ERA starter has a 6.85 era. Seriously. BUT…..

After that, the next 16 games we face the following-

Miami- Sandy -Meyer
Seattle- Woo-Hitchcock-Gilbert-Castillo
Pitt- Skenes-Keller-Chandler
lAD - Ohtani- Yama- Glasgow-Sheehan
brewers- Miz-Patrick-Woodruff.

A possible 16 games against league level Aces. This will tell us exactly where the offense is.

There’s an old expression, SB - “The bigger they are, the harder they fall”.

Meyer 4.12 ERA / 1.32 WHIP
Woo 2.96 / .092
Hancock 2.27 / .076
Gilbert 4.03 / 1.17
Castillo 5.40 / 1.80
Skenes 4.00 / .094
Keller 2.86 / 1.23
Chandler 3.15 / 1.30
Ohtani 0.50 / .072
Yamamoto 2.10 / .082
Glasgow 3.24 / .084
Sheehan 6.60 / 1.47
Misiorowski 3.32 / 1.02
Patrick 0.95 / 1.16
Woodruff 4.32 / 1.08
Pretty good challenge ahead?
Yes.
All ace level?
No.
No reason STL can't play around .500.

You miss okay an important fact- these games are all consecutive. Majorcwear down. Good news- mostly right handers.

Fully aware of your point that this is a potential consecutive game scenario.
That being true, no reason STL cannot play around .500 over that stretch.

Good morning. By the way nice roll up on the pitcher stats.

Now add in two from KC, two from Oakland, and to top this off- we end this stretch with 4 in SD.

I really tough stretch. We weather this, we may have something.

You are making an outstanding point.
That stretch will indeed be very revealing on a number of levels.
And could pay huge dividends if the clubhouse comes out of it confident that it can compete with anyone.
And legendary Knicks coach famously said, "having momentum is better than getting a 6'11" first round draft pick".
Could help the team avoid the late season collapse under The Marmot the past 2 seasons.
Now, as to whether the ownership would reach the same conclusion and decide to invest in the roster come July, that would be a very interesting question to monitor.

If they invest in roster in July that means a trade or two. One won’t do. Need arm and bat. Have room.

But we have no real ammo to trade away for two such animals.

As you know, my biggest criticism of Bloom (who made some good moves in the offseason) was his complete failure to address the lineup in the off-season.
As stated before, he should have retained Contreras or acquired a quality RH bat in the Donovan deal (which is already proving to be the bad move I said it would prove to be).
Huge strategic mistake in Bloom's part.
As for the pitching, the rotation talent is better than a year ago but is undermined by a manager who is among the worst I have ever seen in directing a starting staff.
No trade can fix that.
That all said, I don't fully agree that the team has no remaining trade ammo.
Pretty clear the team wants to trade Pallante - it is why he is in the rotation.
The same is likely true of May.
They can trade a catcher.
Mootbaar of course - provided he recovers well enough to check out of assisted living.
Mathews and Hence both should have been traded already (I was the only person on the planet who recognized their high-water mark and correctly analyze that they should have been leveraged as trade chips at that moment - and though their value has diminished, it is not too late entirely).
There are other pieces as well.
Again, if DeWitt is willing to take on salary, there will be teams wanting to trade the balance of some contracts and STL has the financial and tradeable assets to make a couple of additions.

Good write. Yes . noot don’t need him around anyhow. Ruin the chemistry.

Thought you were breaking out a little Skynrd there Dog. 'Southern man don't need him around anyhow"! Take that Neil Young.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Check this out. Houston has no stud. Their leading ERA starter has a 6.85 era. Seriously. BUT…..

After that, the next 16 games we face the following-

Miami- Sandy -Meyer
Seattle- Woo-Hitchcock-Gilbert-Castillo
Pitt- Skenes-Keller-Chandler
lAD - Ohtani- Yama- Glasgow-Sheehan
brewers- Miz-Patrick-Woodruff.

A possible 16 games against league level Aces. This will tell us exactly where the offense is.

There’s an old expression, SB - “The bigger they are, the harder they fall”.

Meyer 4.12 ERA / 1.32 WHIP
Woo 2.96 / .092
Hancock 2.27 / .076
Gilbert 4.03 / 1.17
Castillo 5.40 / 1.80
Skenes 4.00 / .094
Keller 2.86 / 1.23
Chandler 3.15 / 1.30
Ohtani 0.50 / .072
Yamamoto 2.10 / .082
Glasgow 3.24 / .084
Sheehan 6.60 / 1.47
Misiorowski 3.32 / 1.02
Patrick 0.95 / 1.16
Woodruff 4.32 / 1.08
Pretty good challenge ahead?
Yes.
All ace level?
No.
No reason STL can't play around .500.

You miss okay an important fact- these games are all consecutive. Majorcwear down. Good news- mostly right handers.

Fully aware of your point that this is a potential consecutive game scenario.
That being true, no reason STL cannot play around .500 over that stretch.

Good morning. By the way nice roll up on the pitcher stats.

Now add in two from KC, two from Oakland, and to top this off- we end this stretch with 4 in SD.

I really tough stretch. We weather this, we may have something.

You are making an outstanding point.
That stretch will indeed be very revealing on a number of levels.
And could pay huge dividends if the clubhouse comes out of it confident that it can compete with anyone.
And legendary Knicks coach famously said, "having momentum is better than getting a 6'11" first round draft pick".
Could help the team avoid the late season collapse under The Marmot the past 2 seasons.
Now, as to whether the ownership would reach the same conclusion and decide to invest in the roster come July, that would be a very interesting question to monitor.

If they invest in roster in July that means a trade or two. One won’t do. Need arm and bat. Have room.

But we have no real ammo to trade away for two such animals.

As you know, my biggest criticism of Bloom (who made some good moves in the offseason) was his complete failure to address the lineup in the off-season.
As stated before, he should have retained Contreras or acquired a quality RH bat in the Donovan deal (which is already proving to be the bad move I said it would prove to be).
Huge strategic mistake in Bloom's part.
As for the pitching, the rotation talent is better than a year ago but is undermined by a manager who is among the worst I have ever seen in directing a starting staff.
No trade can fix that.
That all said, I don't fully agree that the team has no remaining trade ammo.
Pretty clear the team wants to trade Pallante - it is why he is in the rotation.
The same is likely true of May.
They can trade a catcher.
Mootbaar of course - provided he recovers well enough to check out of assisted living.
Mathews and Hence both should have been traded already (I was the only person on the planet who recognized their high-water mark and correctly analyze that they should have been leveraged as trade chips at that moment - and though their value has diminished, it is not too late entirely).
There are other pieces as well.
Again, if DeWitt is willing to take on salary, there will be teams wanting to trade the balance of some contracts and STL has the financial and tradeable assets to make a couple of additions.

Good write. Yes . noot don’t need him around anyhow. Ruin the chemistry.

Thought you were breaking out a little Skynrd there Dog. 'Southern man don't need him around anyhow"! Take that Neil Young.

Great catch. Exactly my intent. Yes. Heard ole Neil put her down.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Hou 3-0
Miami 0-1.
Seattle
Pitt x 4
LAD
Milwaukee
Oak
KC
Pitt
Reds
Milwaukee
Cubs
And after all that, we go to SD x 4.

37 games. Will put us at 59 games, 37 ishbpercent theu.

[ilcubuffs]

"Major league players approach their games far differently . The season is 6 months long. Players view each game as 'going to work ' each day .
They play a game, might win or might lose. They go home and don't dwell on it . If it was a close loss and one that got away , it doesn't bum them out for they know there are others that break their way too . Each game is a new day at work ."

Well either player comments are fantasy or the above is not correct. It is especially incorrect in the 2nd season, money season, etc - playoffs and WS. If you read Toronto players comments they are playing for another shot at the Dodgers and WS title.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Hou 3-0
Miami 0-1.
Seattle
Pitt x 4
LAD
Milwaukee
Oak
KC
Pitt
Reds
Milwaukee
Cubs
And after all that, we go to SD x 4.

37 games. Will put us at 59 games, 37 ishbpercent theu.

We got Paddock tonight. 0-3 5.59 ERA 19 IP 4 GS

Junk tomorrow. 0-2 4.61 ish ERA. 22IP 4GS

[Strummer Jones]

Hou 3-0
Miami 0-1.
Seattle
Pitt x 4
LAD
Milwaukee
Oak
KC
Pitt
Reds
Milwaukee
Cubs
And after all that, we go to SD x 4.

37 games. Will put us at 59 games, 37 ishbpercent theu.

We got Paddock tonight. 0-3 5.59 ERA 19 IP 4 GS

Junk tomorrow. 0-2 4.61 ish ERA. 22IP 4GS

Janson Junk. Either the coolest pitcher name ever or the worst.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Hou 3-0
Miami 0-1.
Seattle
Pitt x 4
LAD
Milwaukee
Oak
KC
Pitt
Reds
Milwaukee
Cubs
And after all that, we go to SD x 4.

37 games. Will put us at 59 games, 37 ishbpercent theu.

We got Paddock tonight. 0-3 5.59 ERA 19 IP 4 GS

Junk tomorrow. 0-2 4.61 ish ERA. 22IP 4GS

Janson Junk. Either the coolest pitcher name ever or the worst.

Yea I considered being tacky. I actually looked for a connection with Paddock. Idle mind…..

[sikeston bulldog2]

Ok. Exactly what must be done by good teams- beat a lessor competitor- Pasddock. Huge win. Stopped a losing streak, started a winning streak and guaranteed a 4 plus road trip. Huge.

Seattle Pitt LAD next ten.

Woo
Hitchcock
Castillo
Kirby
Scenes
Chandler
Keller
Ohtani
Glasgow
Sheehan
Yama.

Who has the stomach!

[sikeston bulldog2]

Ok. Exactly what must be done by good teams- beat a lessor competitor- Pasddock. Huge win. Stopped a losing streak, started a winning streak and guaranteed a 4 plus road trip. Huge.

Seattle Pitt LAD next ten.

Woo
Hitchcock
Castillo
Kirby
Scenes
Chandler
Keller
Ohtani
Glasgow
Sheehan
Yama.

Who has the stomach!

Ok it looks like it will be -

Kirby
Woo
Hitchcock
Braxton
Chandler
Skenes
Keller
Sheehan
Ohtani
Glasgow

Any bets?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Game one. Kirby.

[Cranny]

Good morning.

Check this out. Houston has no stud. Their leading ERA starter has a 6.85 era. Seriously. BUT…..

After that, the next 16 games we face the following-

Miami- Sandy -Meyer
Seattle- Woo-Hitchcock-Gilbert-Castillo
Pitt- Skenes-Keller-Chandler
lAD - Ohtani- Yama- Glasgow-Sheehan
brewers- Miz-Patrick-Woodruff.

A possible 16 games against league level Aces. This will tell us exactly where the offense is.

There’s an old expression, SB - “The bigger they are, the harder they fall”.

I’m aware. Still a daunting challenge. Facing consecutive studs for 13 games will wear on us.

Wait and see the complaints about a meager offense. Won’t be that. Will be the pitching/

Exactly. We can play with anyone as long as our pitching holds up, and we produce some runs against their bullpens.