2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
Or maybe someone said: “do what feels comfortable, but try to hit the bottom half of the ball.”
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
One can, but it requires two assumptions
1) the Cardinal instruction is what caused Walker's struggles, and
2) the success will go on longer than 3 games, and because of a dismissal of the alleged previous instruction
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
One can, but it requires two assumptions
1) the Cardinal instruction is what caused Walker's struggles, and
2) the success will go on longer than 3 games, and because of a dismissal of the alleged previous instruction
His problem had far more to do with pitch recognition than his swing although hitting ground balls like he kept wanting to do was never going to be successful ever. His problem was pitch recognition somewhere along the way he’s gotten better at pitch recognition that’s why he’s been doing better The question is will it last and when they adjust again how
Long will it take for him to adjust
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
One can, but it requires two assumptions
1) the Cardinal instruction is what caused Walker's struggles, and
2) the success will go on longer than 3 games, and because of a dismissal of the alleged previous instruction
His problem had far more to do with pitch recognition than his swing although hitting ground balls like he kept wanting to do was never going to be successful ever. His problem was pitch recognition somewhere along the way he’s gotten better at pitch recognition that’s why he’s been doing better The question is will it last and when they adjust again how
Long will it take for him to adjust
Youre right pitch recognition which seemed to become a confidence issue after a while. When you see him like he is now the swing looks so smooth. On that HR today it's like he barely swung, just put the bat out there and let his size create the power. We've seen him like this before. Can he keep it up. The longer he does well the better chance he has at building his confidence back up imo.
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
One can, but it requires two assumptions
1) the Cardinal instruction is what caused Walker's struggles, and
2) the success will go on longer than 3 games, and because of a dismissal of the alleged previous instruction
His problem had far more to do with pitch recognition than his swing although hitting ground balls like he kept wanting to do was never going to be successful ever. His problem was pitch recognition somewhere along the way he’s gotten better at pitch recognition that’s why he’s been doing better The question is will it last and when they adjust again how
Long will it take for him to adjust
No one responded to my first attempt at mentioning this, so I'll reiterate. lol! I think ABS has had a big indirect effect on his "pitch recognition." In 2024-25, he was tied for 15th on the list of hitters who had the most pitches that were actually balls called strikes against them. Anyone who watched him a lot knows this was evident. When you're constantly getting strikes called against you that you know are balls, there's no way that doesn't affect your hitting approach.
Regardless, though, can just hope he keeps it up. He looked great this series.
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
Absolutely.
Not a coincidence that he was at his best as a rookie, before the incompetent Marmot and staff ordered him to completely change his game.
If he can ignore them this season, he can make a lot of progress.
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
Absolutely.
Not a coincidence that he was at his best as a rookie, before the incompetent Marmot and staff ordered him to completely change his game.
If he can ignore them this season, he can make a lot of progress.
I think more likely it’s what they said in spring and that he finally started listening and it’s been and combined effort between them and him for him to improve. The past two seasons he has ignored them and continued to do his own thing so him ignoring him the past two seasons has been an absolute failure just disastrous
I think there has to be some middle ground between the notion that Walker completely ignored instruction the last 2 years and his being given instruction that hasn't been helpful to him. Every player is different. One size fits all may not work for everyone.
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 15:25 pm
and told him to see the ball, hit the ball.
All the stuff is still in his head .. the difference is Walker is not 'thinking ' about the mechanics . As in all sports , the athlete allows his 'subconscious' to perfrom the swing etc. without thinking about it ... a golf swing, a free throw, throwing a pass , etc.
Walker is just taking his deep breath , staying relaxed, and letting it happen .
It's amazing how a hangover from the past (MO) is gone an Walker is starting to Bloom. Pun intended. Mo didn't know anything and screwed Walker up. Let's go Jordan. He's back to swinging when he was drafted.
The days off this spring, working on pitch recognition, seems to have made a huge difference. In addition, he is reaching pitches he used to pull off on. For instance his HR today was at the bottom of his zone, catching a little too much of the plate, and he caught all of it.
To add to that, I like what I have seen on D. Yes, he miss played the single to RF, but that happens. He got to the fly ball toward the line and the fly ball deep toward the bull pen.
2ninr wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026 16:48 pm
How long would a productive Jordan Walker, Nolan Gorman, and Victor Scott knock off the rebuild?
A lot. The whole reason to bring them back for another runway year was to see how they all respond with proper instructions from their development system and if that didn’t work they would trade for sign replacements. If all respond well to the instruction then that frees up the money that would have went for replacements for a lot of other things. But I’m cautiously optimistic one of them reaches their ceiling. It would be a significant upgrade if they are all not
Just nearly completely useless like last season
Um, I suspect one can attribute Walker's early success to destruction of the stupid a** instruction and just go back to the basics of hitting without overthinking.
One can, but it requires two assumptions
1) the Cardinal instruction is what caused Walker's struggles, and
2) the success will go on longer than 3 games, and because of a dismissal of the alleged previous instruction
His problem had far more to do with pitch recognition than his swing although hitting ground balls like he kept wanting to do was never going to be successful ever. His problem was pitch recognition somewhere along the way he’s gotten better at pitch recognition that’s why he’s been doing better The question is will it last and when they adjust again how
Long will it take for him to adjust
No one responded to my first attempt at mentioning this, so I'll reiterate. lol! I think ABS has had a big indirect effect on his "pitch recognition." In 2024-25, he was tied for 15th on the list of hitters who had the most pitches that were actually balls called strikes against them. Anyone who watched him a lot knows this was evident. When you're constantly getting strikes called against you that you know are balls, there's no way that doesn't affect your hitting approach.
Regardless, though, can just hope he keeps it up. He looked great this series.
I read this and think you have a very good point. i don't think it's some small thing. Good call out
I have been watching probably 80% of Walker's ABs last year and this year.
I have cringed on most of them last year.
What I saw was:
His waist area pulling away from the the plate on pitches in the zone.
His pitch recognition horrible.
His pre swing posture tentative.
His swing not confident.
This year I see all these things corrected to some degree.
The most noticeable is how his midsection is staying firm during the swing.
In ST there were enough TV games to see some of these faults early.
Then they would pull him back into the labs for a couple of days.
There were two or three iterations of this.
Then by the end of ST almost all of his ABs were competitive.
It's only been better in the FIRST 3 games of the season.
I think if they keep up the lab work, he might look like his old self.
