Gorman meter: 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored

[rockondlouie]

IF spring wasn't a mirage, then I could see 25+ HR, 80+ RBI for Norman as well.

But this is it, sink or swim season for him (and J. Walker).

Norman has the longer leash given his power but both have to show something this season or it's "bye-bye".

[Melville]

IF spring wasn't a mirage, then I could see 25+ HR, 80+ RBI for Norman as well.

Your eyesight is 20/20.

[Cusecards]

Melville » 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
"I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time."

No More Excuses.
He's been given the starting 3b job. If he doesn't have 600 PAs, it's HIS fault.

Game 1 - 1/4 - 2 RBI, 1 Run

Good start. I'm hoping that he exceeds those numbers.

I respect the opinion of only 2 or 3 people on this board. Mel is one. I have my doubts about Gorman but if I had to bet I would bet on Mel.

Appreciate you kind and gracious words sir.
But it is never about me.
I find it somewhat odd when someone attempts to make a thread focused on me, whereas I am only and always about the game.
Never for, never against, any player.
Here is the bias free, agenda free, reality.
In 1585 career PA's, Gorman has produced 74 HR, 209 RBI, and 193 runs scored.
That equates to 28 HR, 79 RBI, and 73 runs scored per every 600 PA's over the course of his career right now.
And that solid, consistent production has been produced despite incompetent leadership on the part of the Cardinal staff which has undermined him over the past 2 seasons with irregular playing time and with constantly changing assignments over the entire 4 years of his time in STL.
In other words, my analysis is simply a fact-based assessment of who he already has been - and currently is.
Bottom line.
Unless The Marmot is once again allowed to be a complete idiot in his handling of player assignments, there is a 100% certainty that Gorman will produce at the rate the data has established.
And, very likely, even higher.

Your act was entertaining for a while. You need to change it up a bit.
It’s always about you. Every time you start out that you were the first and only, it’s always about you.
Carry on though, at least you’re not a jerk.

It is an act and it is old and desperately in need of new material. The same old one liners are now just comic relief.
On the plus side he does form solid opinions and appears knowledgeable.
But when he begins(and ends) every post with telling you how wonderful he is I refuse to acknowledge his argument/viewpoint.
In fairness.....there have been times when I have engaged in good baseball talk with him. But that is only on the RARE occasions where he does NOT act the part of a pompous arrogant clown.
I’d say his pompous “act” is at about 90%.
Too bad he doesn’t chose to grow up and change.
In the end he is harmless.
Go Cards!

[dugoutrex]

Melville » 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
"I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time."

No More Excuses.
He's been given the starting 3b job. If he doesn't have 600 PAs, it's HIS fault.

Game 1 - 1/4 - 2 RBI, 1 Run

Good start. I'm hoping that he exceeds those numbers.

I respect the opinion of only 2 or 3 people on this board. Mel is one. I have my doubts about Gorman but if I had to bet I would bet on Mel.

I respect Mel for her sandwich making ability only!

[renostl]

Melville » 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
"I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time."

No More Excuses.
He's been given the starting 3b job. If he doesn't have 600 PAs, it's HIS fault.

Game 1 - 1/4 - 2 RBI, 1 Run

Good start. I'm hoping that he exceeds those numbers.

I think he achieves these numbers.

He’s like oneil he may every few years he may stay healthy enough to hit 25 homeruns and drive in 70 with low average and on bade but he will never be consistent year in and year out he will be awful one or two years then decent then awful

There are actually 4 players on this roster who should exceed the top HR total on the 2025 team with this condition of health.
Let's see if anyone does that.

I have been saying for a long time that the Cardinals as a team will hit 160+ HR in 2026.
There is a 100% probability of that happening - unless The Marmot continues his past incompetence in assigning playing time.
Him getting in the way is the only obstacle.

Health is.
Look no further than the IL times.
NG 22g
IH 51g
JW 32g
MW 32g
the departed BD 32 g
AB is the player who shows up he missed 10 which helped make him a starter.
It's a strong trend over the last 3 seasons.

[Cusecards]

Melville » 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
"I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time."

No More Excuses.
He's been given the starting 3b job. If he doesn't have 600 PAs, it's HIS fault.

Game 1 - 1/4 - 2 RBI, 1 Run

Good start. I'm hoping that he exceeds those numbers.

I respect the opinion of only 2 or 3 people on this board. Mel is one. I have my doubts about Gorman but if I had to bet I would bet on Mel.

I respect Mel for her sandwich making ability only!

As long as she doesn’t burn the fries!

[Melville]

Time to read the meter after the first series, since the OP apparently intends to track it.
10 PA's.
4 RBI.
2 runs scored.
1 HR.
Current pace per 600 PA's:
60 HR
120 runs.
240 RBI.
Only 2 K's in 10 PA's is certainly encouraging.
Closing the stance and shortening the swing with 2 strikes are visibly something he has been working on.

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Melville » 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
"I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time."

No More Excuses.
He's been given the starting 3b job. If he doesn't have 600 PAs, it's HIS fault.

Game 1 - 1/4 - 2 RBI, 1 Run

Good start. I'm hoping that he exceeds those numbers.

If he gets those 600 PAs. The brilliant Oli already had Urias at 3B in Game 3. Gorman needs to play nearly every day.

[ecleme22]

Melville » 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
"I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time."

No More Excuses.
He's been given the starting 3b job. If he doesn't have 600 PAs, it's HIS fault.

Game 1 - 1/4 - 2 RBI, 1 Run

Good start. I'm hoping that he exceeds those numbers.

If he gets those 600 PAs. The brilliant Oli already had Urias at 3B in Game 3. Gorman needs to play nearly every day.

Gorman DHed yesterday

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Melville » 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
"I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time."

No More Excuses.
He's been given the starting 3b job. If he doesn't have 600 PAs, it's HIS fault.

Game 1 - 1/4 - 2 RBI, 1 Run

Good start. I'm hoping that he exceeds those numbers.

If he gets those 600 PAs. The brilliant Oli already had Urias at 3B in Game 3. Gorman needs to play nearly every day.

Gorman DHed yesterday

And was benched today because, OMG, a pitcher throwing with his LH was on the mound. Matts ain't that deadly vs. LHH. And Gorman has shown power vs. LHP. Need to find out about him, not Urias.

[Ozziesfan41]

Time to read the meter after the first series, since the OP apparently intends to track it.
10 PA's.
4 RBI.
2 runs scored.
1 HR.
Current pace per 600 PA's:
60 HR
120 runs.
240 RBI.
Only 2 K's in 10 PA's is certainly encouraging.
Closing the stance and shortening the swing with 2 strikes are visibly something he has been working on.

Isn’t that the kind of stuff you were saying last season when he had his brief hot streak before collapsing into suckage?

[ecleme22]

Melville » 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
"I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time."

No More Excuses.
He's been given the starting 3b job. If he doesn't have 600 PAs, it's HIS fault.

Game 1 - 1/4 - 2 RBI, 1 Run

Good start. I'm hoping that he exceeds those numbers.

If he gets those 600 PAs. The brilliant Oli already had Urias at 3B in Game 3. Gorman needs to play nearly every day.

Gorman DHed yesterday

And was benched today because, OMG, a pitcher throwing with his LH was on the mound. Matts ain't that deadly vs. LHH. And Gorman has shown power vs. LHP. Need to find out about him, not Urias.

He played in all three games, starting two.

Don’t worry, they will ‘find out’ about the unknown 4 year vet

[Melville]

Time to read the meter after the first series, since the OP apparently intends to track it.
10 PA's.
4 RBI.
2 runs scored.
1 HR.
Current pace per 600 PA's:
60 HR
120 runs.
240 RBI.
Only 2 K's in 10 PA's is certainly encouraging.
Closing the stance and shortening the swing with 2 strikes are visibly something he has been working on.

Isn’t that the kind of stuff you were saying last season when he had his brief hot streak before collapsing into suckage?

Never one to promote myself, none the less you do make a fair point.
Indeed, I did say he needed to close his stance and become more square & upright - as well as simply seek contact with 2 strikes.
Good to see you were taking notes.
It is way early to make judgements, but good to see him doing as I advised.
Also, it was helpful for STL to trade N/A for a 2nd time, removing an unmerited blockage to playing time.
Encouraging, certainly.
Let's see what happens.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

Time to read the meter after the first series, since the OP apparently intends to track it.
10 PA's.
4 RBI.
2 runs scored.
1 HR.
Current pace per 600 PA's:
60 HR
120 runs.
240 RBI.
Only 2 K's in 10 PA's is certainly encouraging.
Closing the stance and shortening the swing with 2 strikes are visibly something he has been working on.

Isn’t that the kind of stuff you were saying last season when he had his brief hot streak before collapsing into suckage?

Never one to promote myself, none the less you do make a fair point.
Indeed, I did say he needed to close his stance and become more square & upright - as well as simply seek contact with 2 strikes.
Good to see you were taking notes.
It is way early to make judgements, but good to see him doing as I advised.
Also, it was helpful for STL to trade N/A for a 2nd time, removing an unmerited blockage to playing time.
Encouraging, certainly.
Let's see what happens.

The 3rd base platoon is working well. He’ll get ~450 PAs this season which is right in the sweet spot.

[Melville]

Is it time to read the meter again?
How often should the meter be read?