GDT : Cardinals vs Rays (3/29) ~ 1:15pm CDT

[coachendo]

They also went 3-0 last year and didn't win...sh...well much of anything. But I am enjoying them this year.

[rockondlouie]

THX CK

Oli's going to stick w/Winn at clean-up (0 RBI's---.111 .111 .222 .333) no matter how clueless it makes him look, the definition of insanity.

GO CARDS!

2 games ..

Even one game w/M. Winn at clean-up is a joke.

[rockondlouie]

THX CK

Oli's going to stick w/Winn at clean-up (0 RBI's---.111 .111 .222 .333) no matter how clueless it makes him look, the definition of insanity.

GO CARDS!

Oli has 5 players to choose from for cleanup .

JJ leadoff, he wants Herrera , and Burly 2 & 3 as you want your best hitters to potentially get to the plates the most times so he won't mess with that trio .. then Scott is locked in at 9 only.
So today that leaves Saggese , Pages, Walker, Urias , and Winn as his choices for the 4th spot. Winn is no sure thing but Oli must feel that the other 4 aren't a better threat from that group.

I'd say K. Cash is a pretty sharp Manager, one of the best in MLB for a long time.

His best hitter, where has he been batting?

J. Caminero----clean-up.

Herrera in the #2 is a waste (and please, don't regurgitate that stupid theory about the best hitter batting 2nd, teams like the Angels have used this stupid move and wasted a great talent like M. Trout's career), he needs to be hitting clean-up.

Wasting Herrera's RBI potential (least we forget he's got J. Walker, P. Pages and VSII setting the table ahead of him along w/one good hitter in JJW) in the two hole to get a handful more PA's is stupid.

[rockondlouie]

Again, Winn was 5th on the team, last year in RBI's. Nado and WillyCon are no longer here...

Untwist the panties, 2 games in

5th

I guess someone had to be 5th, doesn't make him a clean-up hitter in any managers lineup other than your pal Oli.

[Goldfan]

Tidbit. Best Cardinals starts to a season.

1967 6-0 won WS
1944 5-0 won WS
1931 4-0 won WS
2006 3-0 won WS

There’s that.

They came out of the gate rolling in ‘82

[rockondlouie]

BTW

S, Matz career:

vs LHH
.255 .324 .375 .700

vs RHH
.264 .317 .446 .763

[Goldfan]

THX CK

Oli's going to stick w/Winn at clean-up (0 RBI's---.111 .111 .222 .333) no matter how clueless it makes him look, the definition of insanity.

GO CARDS!

Oli has 5 players to choose from for cleanup .

JJ leadoff, he wants Herrera , and Burly 2 & 3 as you want your best hitters to potentially get to the plates the most times so he won't mess with that trio .. then Scott is locked in at 9 only.
So today that leaves Saggese , Pages, Walker, Urias , and Winn as his choices for the 4th spot. Winn is no sure thing but Oli must feel that the other 4 aren't a better threat from that group.

I'd say K. Cash is a pretty sharp Manager, one of the best in MLB for a long time.

His best hitter, where has he been batting?

J. Caminero----clean-up.

Herrera in the #2 is a waste (and please, don't regurgitate that stupid theory about the best hitter batting 2nd, teams like the Angels have used this stupid move and wasted a great talent like M. Trout's career), he needs to be hitting clean-up.

Wasting Herrera's RBI potential (least we forget he's got J. Walker, P. Pages and VSII setting the table ahead of him along w/one good hitter in JJW) in the two hole to get a handful more PA's is stupid.

If Scott can continue to find ways to get on base…..he and JJ at the top would be perfect….set up Herrera and Burly

[sikeston bulldog2]

Tidbit. Best Cardinals starts to a season.

1967 6-0 won WS
1944 5-0 won WS
1931 4-0 won WS
2006 3-0 won WS

There’s that.

They came out of the gate rolling in ‘82

I googled it. So I may have an error. But if so, that would be five WS winners with good starts.

[rockondlouie]

THX CK

Oli's going to stick w/Winn at clean-up (0 RBI's---.111 .111 .222 .333) no matter how clueless it makes him look, the definition of insanity.

GO CARDS!

Oli has 5 players to choose from for cleanup .

JJ leadoff, he wants Herrera , and Burly 2 & 3 as you want your best hitters to potentially get to the plates the most times so he won't mess with that trio .. then Scott is locked in at 9 only.
So today that leaves Saggese , Pages, Walker, Urias , and Winn as his choices for the 4th spot. Winn is no sure thing but Oli must feel that the other 4 aren't a better threat from that group.

I'd say K. Cash is a pretty sharp Manager, one of the best in MLB for a long time.

His best hitter, where has he been batting?

J. Caminero----clean-up.

Herrera in the #2 is a waste (and please, don't regurgitate that stupid theory about the best hitter batting 2nd, teams like the Angels have used this stupid move and wasted a great talent like M. Trout's career), he needs to be hitting clean-up.

Wasting Herrera's RBI potential (least we forget he's got J. Walker, P. Pages and VSII setting the table ahead of him along w/one good hitter in JJW) in the two hole to get a handful more PA's is stupid.

If Scott can continue to find ways to get on base…..he and JJ at the top would be perfect….set up Herrera and Burly

I hope VSII does just that, he'd steal 50-60+ bases if he could put up a .325+ OB%.

Love seeing his hard work this spring working on his bunting pay off, those sac bunts are gold putting RiSP for JJW.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Tidbit. Best Cardinals starts to a season.

1967 6-0 won WS
1944 5-0 won WS
1931 4-0 won WS
2006 3-0 won WS

There’s that.

They came out of the gate rolling in ‘82

Cardinals won opening day in Houston 14-3, Forsch beating Ryan. Cards lost the next two, going 1-2 in opening series. Did have a 12 game win streak in April. Finished 92-70.

[RamFan08NY]

THX CK

Oli's going to stick w/Winn at clean-up (0 RBI's---.111 .111 .222 .333) no matter how clueless it makes him look, the definition of insanity.

GO CARDS!

What’s the fascination here????? Is there some obscure analytics dictating WINN is a cleanup hitter the first 3 games against TB???
Oli is an idiot

I dont get the fascination with the cleanup spot in the order. Herrera is getting more opportunities than Winn. Winn hitting .111 Hererra hitting .127. The cleanup position lead off innings twice yesterday. Its like complaining about who hits 6th. The Cards dont have the prototype cleanup hitter of years past. Winn isn't, but neither is Hererra.

[Goldfan]

Tidbit. Best Cardinals starts to a season.

1967 6-0 won WS
1944 5-0 won WS
1931 4-0 won WS
2006 3-0 won WS

There’s that.

They came out of the gate rolling in ‘82

I googled it. So I may have an error. But if so, that would be five WS winners with good starts.

13-3 start

[sikeston bulldog2]

Tidbit. Best Cardinals starts to a season.

1967 6-0 won WS
1944 5-0 won WS
1931 4-0 won WS
2006 3-0 won WS

There’s that.

They came out of the gate rolling in ‘82

I googled it. So I may have an error. But if so, that would be five WS winners with good starts.

13-3 start

Yes. Started 1-2 at Houston, losing the last two.then won 12. Then lost again against- Houston.

[cardinalsfever44]

THX CK

Oli's going to stick w/Winn at clean-up (0 RBI's---.111 .111 .222 .333) no matter how clueless it makes him look, the definition of insanity.

GO CARDS!

What’s the fascination here????? Is there some obscure analytics dictating WINN is a cleanup hitter the first 3 games against TB???
Oli is an idiot

I dont get the fascination with the cleanup spot in the order. Herrera is getting more opportunities than Winn. Winn hitting .111 Hererra hitting .127. The cleanup position lead off innings twice yesterday. Its like complaining about who hits 6th. The Cards dont have the prototype cleanup hitter of years past. Winn isn't, but neither is Hererra.

The first 4-5 pages of the GDT every game are complaining about the batting order and saying Oli should be fired for said order. Just move past it until the game starts.

[TheFantasyStud]

Walker should be batting fourth
Winn 8th

Pozo catching today.

[sikeston bulldog2]

THX CK

Oli's going to stick w/Winn at clean-up (0 RBI's---.111 .111 .222 .333) no matter how clueless it makes him look, the definition of insanity.

GO CARDS!

What’s the fascination here????? Is there some obscure analytics dictating WINN is a cleanup hitter the first 3 games against TB???
Oli is an idiot

I dont get the fascination with the cleanup spot in the order. Herrera is getting more opportunities than Winn. Winn hitting .111 Hererra hitting .127. The cleanup position lead off innings twice yesterday. Its like complaining about who hits 6th. The Cards dont have the prototype cleanup hitter of years past. Winn isn't, but neither is Hererra.

The first 4-5 pages of the GDT every game are complaining about the batting order and saying Oli should be fired for said order. Just move past it until the game starts.

You won’t believe this statement but, back in the day, to enter CT meant doing so on your best behavior. A place to talk only Cardinal baseball. They weren’t rules per se, but an understanding of conduct.

Today, it’s become a bit more of a catch can.