Roycroft over Gastelum? No way

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Re: Roycroft over Gastelum? No way

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Roycroft isn’t a major league pitcher.
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One game, and Roycroft proves that he is darn near worthless and should never don a Cards uniform again. But he will.
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It is almost an unworldly event having to move players on and off the roster. I mean trying to figure out what to do with the Musial, Mays, Mantle, Aaron's, etc is undaunting.

You would think that is why Bloom, FO personnel, and Marmot get the 6 figure paychecks to do the tough jobs. Evidently NOT.
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ilcubuffs wrote: 27 Mar 2026 16:22 pm It is almost an unworldly event having to move players on and off the roster. I mean trying to figure out what to do with the Musial, Mays, Mantle, Aaron's, etc is undaunting.

You would think that is why Bloom, FO personnel, and Marmot get the 6 figure paychecks to do the tough jobs. Evidently NOT.
The roster excuse is one of the worst. It's sophistry.
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Re: Roycroft over Gastelum? No way

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ClassicO wrote: 22 Mar 2026 22:19 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Mar 2026 21:43 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 22 Mar 2026 21:17 pm I don’t think they will want to start Gastelum’s clock this season, unless they are within making a post season appearance.
Probably the same with Baez.
I don’t think it’s so much starting the clock as it is he had a 4.02 ERA at AA last season hasn’t thrown a pitch at Memphis and they probably aren’t just going to skip him a level and create a roster spot for him based on 4 spring training innings
Ok. He has 3 seasons in the minors. 10-9. 3.66 ERA and 1.186 WHIP -- and oh yeah, 191 Ks in 140 IP. And in that one AA season with the 4.02 ERA, he struck out 92 in 62 innings -- with a 35.4% K%, and 6.5% BB%. So I'm not worried about a reliever's ERA when the peripherals are that good.

Roycroft? Career Minors = 4.47 ERA and an awful 1.585 WHIP. And his brief stints at MLB last year were nothing short of horrific = 5.56 ERA and 1.584 WHIP.
Wow, Roycroft’s minor league numbers were terrible. I don’t know if Gastelum is the answer but anyone would likely be better. For those saying Roycroft being on the team doesn’t really matter…how many offensive explosions can this team expect when he pitches to make up for it? They’re going to need it. The guy just doesn’t belong.
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Bruihl, Roycroft, Fernandez, and Raquet don’t belong on the 40 man roster.
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ilcubuffs wrote: 27 Mar 2026 16:22 pm It is almost an unworldly event having to move players on and off the roster. I mean trying to figure out what to do with the Musial, Mays, Mantle, Aaron's, etc is undaunting.

You would think that is why Bloom, FO personnel, and Marmot get the 6 figure paychecks to do the tough jobs. Evidently NOT.
Ok😳
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Cranny wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:04 pm Bruihl, Roycroft, Fernandez, and Raquet don’t belong on the 40 man roster.
Fernandez has fallen apart.
No idea on Raquet or Bruihl?
Roycroft must have photos of someone in the FO?
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Cusecards wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:17 pm
Cranny wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:04 pm Bruihl, Roycroft, Fernandez, and Raquet don’t belong on the 40 man roster.
Fernandez has fallen apart.
No idea on Raquet or Bruihl?
Roycroft must have photos of someone in the FO?
Raquel is a 30 year old who has all of 2 innings pitched at the major league level. In 2 years at AAA he had an ERA of
5.57, with a WHIP of 1.576. Bruihl is a 28 year old who last season had an ERA of 5.27 and WHIP of 1.902 with Toronto.
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Gastelum 1.2 scoreless inning tonight for Memphis
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Re: Roycroft over Gastelum? No way

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Cranny wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:17 pm
Cranny wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:04 pm Bruihl, Roycroft, Fernandez, and Raquet don’t belong on the 40 man roster.
Fernandez has fallen apart.
No idea on Raquet or Bruihl?
Roycroft must have photos of someone in the FO?
Raquel is a 30 year old who has all of 2 innings pitched at the major league level. In 2 years at AAA he had an ERA of
5.57, with a WHIP of 1.576. Bruihl is a 28 year old who last season had an ERA of 5.27 and WHIP of 1.902 with Toronto.
Should be a fluid season roster-wise.
If Roycroft survives the season it’ll be disappointing.
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Can we not rush every shiny new toy from AA to mlb?
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ClassicO wrote: 22 Mar 2026 13:48 pm Gastelum looks 5 times better. He has control and a devastating strikeout pitch.
Roycroft has only a general idea of where the ball is going when it leaves his hand.
Disappointing, but it's not like it's a major decision in this year of experiments!
100%

I'm not sure why the slug Roycroft is yet again on the team, guy's a stiff.

I'd even take Graceffo over him.
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Cranny wrote: 23 Mar 2026 07:47 am Roycroft isn’t a major league pitcher.
Agreed.
But that is true many #7 and #8 BP arms.
Hard for me to care much the first week of the season about an arm that will primarily be used when the team is several runs behind.
There will be many arms rotating through the back end of the BP in the months ahead and Gastelum will get a look.
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rockondlouie wrote: 28 Mar 2026 09:11 am
ClassicO wrote: 22 Mar 2026 13:48 pm Gastelum looks 5 times better. He has control and a devastating strikeout pitch.
Roycroft has only a general idea of where the ball is going when it leaves his hand.
Disappointing, but it's not like it's a major decision in this year of experiments!
100%

I'm not sure why the slug Roycroft is yet again on the team, guy's a stiff.

I'd even take Graceffo over him.
I believe they want Graceffo pitching regularly and with multi-inning stints.
They are not quite ready to give up on him as a starter and therefore do not want to consign him to short relief just yet.
When he comes back to STL, his assignment will probably be long relief in the middle innings.
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Cusecards wrote: 27 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
Cranny wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:34 pm
Cusecards wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:17 pm
Cranny wrote: 27 Mar 2026 21:04 pm Bruihl, Roycroft, Fernandez, and Raquet don’t belong on the 40 man roster.
Fernandez has fallen apart.
No idea on Raquet or Bruihl?
Roycroft must have photos of someone in the FO?
Raquel is a 30 year old who has all of 2 innings pitched at the major league level. In 2 years at AAA he had an ERA of
5.57, with a WHIP of 1.576. Bruihl is a 28 year old who last season had an ERA of 5.27 and WHIP of 1.902 with Toronto.
Should be a fluid season roster-wise.
If Roycroft survives the season it’ll be disappointing.
That’s the problem. They are treating the 40 man as concrete not fluid. We could dfa Roycroft today and no one would claim him. Yet for some reason they are scare to “lose anyone “.