Trade Pallante midseason?

[Carp4Cy]

Suppose we get lucky one more time and Pall can get thru 2-3 months with a 3.x ERA similar to his first couple of months the past 2 years and ST. Should we/could we then sell high and swap him (and maybe a C) for a proven young hitter who can play OF/CF? Maybe to LA for Pages (or Sirota who could be in AAA by then) - Like the Bottenfield/Edmonds trade.

[mattmitchl44]

They could try, but unless Pallante shows a lot more ability to get strikeouts this year, I doubt they would find any team really willing to put a high trade value on obtaining him.

[ecleme22]

If he is doing well, I think the Cards will trade him.

If he’s doing okay, he could be part of a package

[Cusecards]

Lots of possibilities especially with more pitchers in the pipeline.

[11WSChamps]

If hes doing well they better keep him.

They're going to need all the pitching they can get.

[rockondlouie]

Little to no stand alone trade value, he's nothing more than a "toss-in" when Bloom deals Noot, May, JoJo and likely Pages.

[Melville]

Little to no stand alone trade value, he's nothing more than a "toss-in" when Bloom deals Noot, May, JoJo and likely Pages.

Agreed.
Pallante's only (and extremely limited) value is as a trade piece added to a player another team would actually want to acquire.

[Goldfan]

Start of the season……
“Hopefully we can trade X pitcher for a great prospect at deadline”


Deadline
“Did anyone really think X player would return any worthy prospect”

Do any of these posters have ANY self awareness??? Its the same thing over and over and over
“We must start this fella so we can trade him”
“We were never going to get anything for this guy in a trade”

[rockondlouie]

Little to no stand alone trade value, he's nothing more than a "toss-in" when Bloom deals Noot, May, JoJo and likely Pages.

Agreed.
Pallante's only (and extremely limited) value is as a trade piece added to a player another team would actually want to acquire.

[hugeCardfan]

Here's an idea, if May and Pallante are doing well, rather than handing it off to the "trade brigade" let's see about locking in May and leaving Pallante in the rotation...until somebody beats him out. I am much more interested in focusing on who is producing rather than what pig in a poke we coulda shoulda land if we dupe another franchise into buying "at the top". Hell, we managed to trade Alcantara and Gallen before the league figured out they were just minor league arms ready to fall apart the second they were promoted to the majors.

I don't know if it's 2024 Pallante or 2025 Pallante we'll be looking at this and next year...but I hope coaches and scouts are making decisions and not the trade brigade.

Here we are starting to think that Baez will become the real deal right before our very eyes.... That our pitching in ST was virtually as good as anybody's but lets dump them before they inevitably fall apart so we can dupe some GM out of a guaranteed big league star down the road.

What if Baez, Velazquez, Church and Noot tie down a ML outfield in '27. What if May is the real deal and stays strong in '26 while he builds for a 180 inning rotation piece for the next 3 to 4 years. What if Pallante figures out how to be a consistent #4 or 5 until someone in our system supplants him. I'm not anti trade, but I do believe in maximizing the assets we have as we strive to improve year over year. Trading isn't magical. There are inevitable winners and losers. If it's working, consider keeping what you've got.

Just sayin'.

[ecleme22]

Here's an idea, if May and Pallante are doing well, rather than handing it off to the "trade brigade" let's see about locking in May and leaving Pallante in the rotation...until somebody beats him out. I am much more interested in focusing on who is producing rather than what pig in a poke we coulda shoulda land if we dupe another franchise into buying "at the top". Hell, we managed to trade Alcantara and Gallen before the league figured out they were just minor league arms ready to fall apart the second they were promoted to the majors.

I don't know if it's 2024 Pallante or 2025 Pallante we'll be looking at this and next year...but I hope coaches and scouts are making decisions and not the trade brigade.

Here we are starting to think that Baez will become the real deal right before our very eyes.... That our pitching in ST was virtually as good as anybody's but lets dump them before they inevitably fall apart so we can dupe some GM out of a guaranteed big league star down the road.

What if Baez, Velazquez, Church and Noot tie down a ML outfield in '27. What if May is the real deal and stays strong in '26 while he builds for a 180 inning rotation piece for the next 3 to 4 years. What if Pallante figures out how to be a consistent #4 or 5 until someone in our system supplants him. I'm not anti trade, but I do believe in maximizing the assets we have as we strive to improve year over year. Trading isn't magical. There are inevitable winners and losers. If it's working, consider keeping what you've got.

Just sayin'.

Well you don’t just trade to trade.

And I wouldn’t compare Gallen and AP, but that’s just me.

If Bloom is able to land young, mlb ready talent, you make the trades.

[Cusecards]

Here's an idea, if May and Pallante are doing well, rather than handing it off to the "trade brigade" let's see about locking in May and leaving Pallante in the rotation...until somebody beats him out. I am much more interested in focusing on who is producing rather than what pig in a poke we coulda shoulda land if we dupe another franchise into buying "at the top". Hell, we managed to trade Alcantara and Gallen before the league figured out they were just minor league arms ready to fall apart the second they were promoted to the majors.

I don't know if it's 2024 Pallante or 2025 Pallante we'll be looking at this and next year...but I hope coaches and scouts are making decisions and not the trade brigade.

Here we are starting to think that Baez will become the real deal right before our very eyes.... That our pitching in ST was virtually as good as anybody's but lets dump them before they inevitably fall apart so we can dupe some GM out of a guaranteed big league star down the road.

What if Baez, Velazquez, Church and Noot tie down a ML outfield in '27. What if May is the real deal and stays strong in '26 while he builds for a 180 inning rotation piece for the next 3 to 4 years. What if Pallante figures out how to be a consistent #4 or 5 until someone in our system supplants him. I'm not anti trade, but I do believe in maximizing the assets we have as we strive to improve year over year. Trading isn't magical. There are inevitable winners and losers. If it's working, consider keeping what you've got.

Just sayin'.

Well you don’t just trade to trade.

And I wouldn’t compare Gallen and AP, but that’s just me.

If Bloom is able to land young, mlb ready talent, you make the trades.

+1

[C-Unit]

Sirota is perhaps the Dodger system equivalent of Baez. All their fans know who he is and they are excited.

Just put the shoe on the other foot, and ask yourself as a Cardinal fan if you would like to trade Baez at the deadline for a pitcher who meets the description of what you say you think Pallante could be at the deadline... a 4/5 type starter who is having a good first half...

Also I think teams evaluate talent better now than they did when lightning-in-a-bottle Bottenfield was able to command Edmonds in return. I guess part of the context was that the Angels were ready to move on from Edmonds due to injury and perceived attitude issues. Pages (LAD) isn't anything like that. Everyone saw that catch he made in game 7. It's not like Pages is some well kept secret, and his own organization is surely not unaware of his talent either. I'm sure any team would theoretically be interested in Pages, and half would probably be willing to top a Cardinal offer of Andre Pallante in order to get him.

Just imagine the idea that the Dodgers, with Snell, Glasnow, Ohtani, Yamamoto, Sasaki.... no shortage of pitching... all that and the idea that they would want to trade a very good CFer in order to add Andre Pallante to that.

Honestly... Luis Robert Jr would have been the type of CFer who fits the description of how I described Edmonds at the end of his Angels time. And I'm pretty interested to see what the Mets are able to get out of Robert Jr in a new environment.

[Carp4Cy]

They could try, but unless Pallante shows a lot more ability to get strikeouts this year, I doubt they would find any team really willing to put a high trade value on obtaining him.

Bottenfield only k’d 5.9 per IP in the 18 win season before he was traded for a Hall of Fame caliber gold glove/MV3 centerfielder.

Pal was at 6.1 at his worst last year and 6.3 for his career. If he can stay hot and win a few and the Dodgers have their typical SP injuries his value will be there.

[Carp4Cy]

If hes doing well they better keep him.

They're going to need all the pitching they can get.

He’s fools gold. That’s what you should trade high on. We’ve got Fitts, Dobbins, and Matthews all ready very soon for their chance.

Behind them are Doyle, Hence maybe, Clarke Roby Cintje etc by 2027 or 28. There’s plenty of pitching but no AS outfielders.

[Cardinals1964]

If hes doing well they better keep him.

They're going to need all the pitching they can get.

Exactly. Is the new trend to trade everyone at the break that’s doing good?