Oil extension near completion - 2 years

[Melville]

I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

Rumor was Willy Wonka was heavy after him to to be the manager in his chocolate factory

Couple thoughts. If he wins this year any at all over the 70 predictions, he’s a winner. Then the lockout. Does that count as his year two?

Doesn’t signing on to manage a predicted loser indicate a bridge over troubled waters.

The Marmot's job description:
"Oh, when times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part"

[sikeston bulldog2]

I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

Rumor was Willy Wonka was heavy after him to to be the manager in his chocolate factory

Couple thoughts. If he wins this year any at all over the 70 predictions, he’s a winner. Then the lockout. Does that count as his year two?

Doesn’t signing on to manage a predicted loser indicate a bridge over troubled waters.

The Marmot's job description:
"Oh, when times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part"

That’s the one.

[rockondlouie]

[Melville]

I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

Rumor was Willy Wonka was heavy after him to to be the manager in his chocolate factory

Couple thoughts. If he wins this year any at all over the 70 predictions, he’s a winner. Then the lockout. Does that count as his year two?

Doesn’t signing on to manage a predicted loser indicate a bridge over troubled waters.

The Marmot's job description:
"Oh, when times get rough
And friends just can't be found
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I'll take your part"

That’s the one.

Knew where you were headed.
You are the master of that technique.

[Mort Gage]

It used to be they only gave players unnecessary, premature extensions. They could have just let this season play out and decided after.

[Goldfan]

I guess you have to believe that the correct FO, Manager, and Players produce a winning team. Can’t say that Mo was bad and everything is better now that “good” bloom here…..and then turnaround and say it doesn’t matter what kind of manager in place. If you want to WIN

[Cusecards]

I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

don't discount the possibility that bloom shopped the job and few were interested..

marmol might be the best they can do

Could very well be true!
My opinion:
*Based SOLELY on watching the games and seeing him handle moves in the media I rate him below average.
*I can NOT however rate him based on his interactions in the dugout/clubhouse or on the practice field.

If like you said they honestly can’t find anyone better then you stick with him until someone better comes along.
Don’t make a move solely to say you made a move!
It’s the “timing” that has me confused.
I would NOT have extended him now. He’s not going anywhere so why not see how this season plays out?
Or....at least through the trade deadline?

[rockondlouie]

This has BDWJr's fingerprints all over it.

No quality major league Manager would take this job knowing the owner wasn't going to spend any "real" money for many, many years...........if ever again.

Oli's deal screams, "LOW PAYROLL FOR YEARS"!

I was dead wrong, thought for sure Oli would get a one year extension, then C. Bloom would be allowed to hire HIS own Manager after the new CBA was in place and Dewitt would raise the payroll back to acceptable levels.

Seems like old Bill's new business plan is to keep the payroll as low as possible, for as many years as he can and a clown like Oli is the type of Manager who will smile and say "Yes Sir".

Just sell the team you cheap a z z Dewitt.

[riff raff]

This has BDWJr's fingerprints all over it.

No quality major league Manager would take this job knowing the owner wasn't going to spend any "real" money for many, many years...........if ever again.

I was dead wrong, thought for sure Oli would get a one year extension, then C. Bloom would be allowed to hire HIS own Manager after the new CBA was in place and Dewitt would raise the payroll back to acceptable levels.

Seems like old Bill's new business plan is to keep the payroll as low as possible, for as many years as he can and a clown like Oli is the type of Manager who will smile and say "Yes Sir".

Just sell the team you cheap a z z Dewitt.

You're still dead wrong. smh

[Mort Gage]

I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

don't discount the possibility that bloom shopped the job and few were interested..

marmol might be the best they can do

Doubtful. The Cardinals are an iconic franchise. A new manager would have been given plenty of slack in a rebuild so it wouldn't have been overly stressful. And there are only a handful of managerial openings each winter.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

don't discount the possibility that bloom shopped the job and few were interested..

marmol might be the best they can do

Doubtful. The Cardinals are an iconic franchise. A new manager would have been given plenty of slack in a rebuild so it wouldn't have been overly stressful. And there are only a handful of managerial openings each winter.

That was my next thought. Who? Old managers have aged out, new managers unproven. Proven managers stay put.

[82birds]

and

[woofy25]

The extension is merely symbolic and gives Oli more guaranteed money. That is all it does. What it doesn’t do is guarantee he’ll be the manager for the duration of the contract.

This is really a non-story.

[Carp4Cy]

I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

don't discount the possibility that bloom shopped the job and few were interested..

marmol might be the best they can do

If no other good manager is interested either now or in another year, that should tell us fans something about the projected success rate of this rebuild.

[OldRed]

I is probably at the bottom of salaries for MLB managers.

[45s]

I don't understand why they would do that. Did they think some other team would hire him away? Did they think this will excite the fans who stopped attending games?

don't discount the possibility that bloom shopped the job and few were interested..

marmol might be the best they can do

Doubtful. The Cardinals are an iconic franchise. A new manager would have been given plenty of slack in a rebuild so it wouldn't have been overly stressful. And there are only a handful of managerial openings each winter.

I know many want to cling to the "iconic, legendary, historic" days.....but respectfully those days are gone....

at this point it's a poorly run organization in a small market

baseball is a small fraternity....every organizational flaw that is discussed daily on this board is well known in that community

they may not be lining up to go to stl

as I said....it's just a possibility....