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Devastating point of view for those relishing Cards struggles

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/ca ... r-AA1WUdNJ

Cardinals’ revamped roster has league taking notice
Story by Patrick McAvoy •



The St. Louis Cardinals had a transformational offseason in Chaim Bloom's first one leading the organization.

Bloom and the organization certainly didn't want to wait around any longer to really reset the franchise. The last three seasons were a struggle. Bloom's job is to turn the organization around and the Cardinals bet on the future by adding a handful of prospects this offseason.


One thing about prospects, is that they are typically not guaranteed. Just because someone is a first-round pick, doesn't mean they'll pan out. We'll see how things work out for the Cardinals, but one thing that should give St. Louis fans hope is the fact that ESPN's David Schoenfield graded the Cardinals' offense as a "B+."

The Cardinals' future is very bright.


"St. Louis Cardinals: B+," Schoenfield wrote. "Key additions: RHP Hunter Dobbins, RHP Dustin May, RHP Richard Fitts, RHP Ryne Stanek, RHP/LHP Jurrangelo Cijntje, LHP Brandon Clarke. Key departures: RHP Sonny Gray, INF Brendan Donovan, 1B Willson Contreras, 3B Nolan Arenado, RHP Miles Mikolas. Well, it's done: The rebuild, the revamp, the step back -- whatever you want to call it -- is officially complete. The only players older than 30 on the 40-man roster are relievers Riley O'Brien and Stanek. The farm system has been improved, with five top-100 prospects led by infielder JJ Wetherholt, a top Rookie of the Year candidate for 2026.


"The payroll has been trimmed some $45 million from 2025, so that will make owner Bill DeWitt happy, although the organization will have to win back the fans with better results -- eventually -- on the field. If you accept the premise of rebuilding, then Chaim Bloom did an excellent job. Improving the long-term viability of the rotation was the biggest need and Bloom did that with two separate trades with his old friends in Boston and then the Donovan deal.

"Dobbins and Fitts are more fourth/fifth-starter types, and Cijntje and Clarke are power arms with higher ceilings but reliever risk. They were two of the better prospects to switch teams this winter. What we don't know: With a payroll now half of what it was just two years ago, where will the Cardinals go in the future?"

The fact that a top league insider like Schoenfield is willing to grade the offseason this highly, should give the fanbase some solace that St. Louis made the right moves.

The biggest prospect the Cardinals brought back to town was switch-pitcher Jurrangelo Cijntje. Brandon Clarke is injured, but also profiles as a top-of-the-rotation arm. St. Louis also added No. 10 prospect Yhoiker Fajardo along with outfielders Tai Peete and Colton Ledbetter and two draft picks, among other moves.

The future is bright, Cardinals fans.
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I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

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rockondlouie wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:36 am I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

mantra
There will be numerous ways to measure the season, but, I think we'll see a light near the end that will allow greater clarity of purpose and resolve. I really look forward to the numerous steps to be taken this year.
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hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:30 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/ca ... r-AA1WUdNJ

Cardinals’ revamped roster has league taking notice
Story by Patrick McAvoy •



The St. Louis Cardinals had a transformational offseason in Chaim Bloom's first one leading the organization.

Bloom and the organization certainly didn't want to wait around any longer to really reset the franchise. The last three seasons were a struggle. Bloom's job is to turn the organization around and the Cardinals bet on the future by adding a handful of prospects this offseason.


One thing about prospects, is that they are typically not guaranteed. Just because someone is a first-round pick, doesn't mean they'll pan out. We'll see how things work out for the Cardinals, but one thing that should give St. Louis fans hope is the fact that ESPN's David Schoenfield graded the Cardinals' offense as a "B+."

The Cardinals' future is very bright.


"St. Louis Cardinals: B+," Schoenfield wrote. "Key additions: RHP Hunter Dobbins, RHP Dustin May, RHP Richard Fitts, RHP Ryne Stanek, RHP/LHP Jurrangelo Cijntje, LHP Brandon Clarke. Key departures: RHP Sonny Gray, INF Brendan Donovan, 1B Willson Contreras, 3B Nolan Arenado, RHP Miles Mikolas. Well, it's done: The rebuild, the revamp, the step back -- whatever you want to call it -- is officially complete. The only players older than 30 on the 40-man roster are relievers Riley O'Brien and Stanek. The farm system has been improved, with five top-100 prospects led by infielder JJ Wetherholt, a top Rookie of the Year candidate for 2026.


"The payroll has been trimmed some $45 million from 2025, so that will make owner Bill DeWitt happy, although the organization will have to win back the fans with better results -- eventually -- on the field. If you accept the premise of rebuilding, then Chaim Bloom did an excellent job. Improving the long-term viability of the rotation was the biggest need and Bloom did that with two separate trades with his old friends in Boston and then the Donovan deal.

"Dobbins and Fitts are more fourth/fifth-starter types, and Cijntje and Clarke are power arms with higher ceilings but reliever risk. They were two of the better prospects to switch teams this winter. What we don't know: With a payroll now half of what it was just two years ago, where will the Cardinals go in the future?"

The fact that a top league insider like Schoenfield is willing to grade the offseason this highly, should give the fanbase some solace that St. Louis made the right moves.

The biggest prospect the Cardinals brought back to town was switch-pitcher Jurrangelo Cijntje. Brandon Clarke is injured, but also profiles as a top-of-the-rotation arm. St. Louis also added No. 10 prospect Yhoiker Fajardo along with outfielders Tai Peete and Colton Ledbetter and two draft picks, among other moves.

The future is bright, Cardinals fans.
How dare you post something positive you’re supposed to be whining and crying and trash talking the cardinals or you’re a boot licker
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hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:36 am I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

mantra
There will be numerous ways to measure the season, but, I think we'll see a light near the end that will allow greater clarity of purpose and resolve. I really look forward to the numerous steps to be taken this year.
That's what I'm waiting for. Steps. Right now we still have this Cluster ef of mess still on the big league roster of leftover non-prospects who aren't going to be part of a successful future. As they (sooner the better) get their walking papers and we move on after seeing what we don't have, we will be in a much better position. Probably includes Oli and some coaches.
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hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:36 am I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

mantra
There will be numerous ways to measure the season, but, I think we'll see a light near the end that will allow greater clarity of purpose and resolve. I really look forward to the numerous steps to be taken this year.
+1
And it’s possible to be excited and enjoy a season even if the playoff chances are low.
Play ball
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No fan relishes the Cardinals struggling. The title is stupid
To the contrary fans are (upset) that incompetent idiots have guided this winning proud franchise to the point where a washout and rebuild are necessary. So it’s very odd for a fan to have an opinion that what’s happened here in Stl is something to look forward to. The future is as uncertain as its ever Been in my lifetime. You and others can wish and hope that all these prospects end up performing at the MLB level but that is a very rare occurrence to happen at once. This season will not see winning, next season probably won’t see winning, and if BDW doesn’t spend good luck competing after that.
So casting ignorant dispersions on fans that write negatively about the clusterphuck that occured with the team begs the question….
Did/do you want fans to cheer for this giant clusterphuck???
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hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:36 am I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

mantra
There will be numerous ways to measure the season, but, I think we'll see a light near the end that will allow greater clarity of purpose and resolve. I really look forward to the numerous steps to be taken this year.
I would agree that wins and losses this season won’t be the deciding factor on how well or poorly Chaim did this off-season. There are just too many factors to take into consideration!
The offense, in my opinion, won’t be terrible if they stay healthy! Especially if Oli lets them run as they have so far this Spring! However, he has allowed them to run in Springs past only to put the brakes on as soon as the games mattered! In an interview with Masyn Winn by Dani Wexelman, Winn stated that some of the guys have a little contest going as to who will end up stealing the most bases this year. I like that. He did say they weren’t going to let Victor be in on it. Said Victor could steal 60 or more bases, and that wouldn’t be fair! Let’s hope so!
The pitching is where we will judge Bloom’s off-season moves. I still don’t like the May signing! I hope I have to eat Crow, but there is just so much risk with him, and he's who they spent their money on! I would agree, that if healthy, he can be good, but that’s such a BIG if! He hardly ever has been!
Dobbins and Fitts, both come with health risks, but also are only projected as #5’s by most analysts when healthy. Their words not mine. I’m disappointed the Cardinals didn’t bring in a veteran starter, that could be a mentor, and also be a solid innings eater. They were available and not at ridiculous salaries. Littell, and Giolito are still out there, but they are about it.
If the pitching staff suffer significant injuries, this season could get ugly real quick. Bloom has placed a lot on these guys being healthy. If he’s right, he’ll look like a genius, if he’s wrong…………!
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:46 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:30 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/ca ... r-AA1WUdNJ

Cardinals’ revamped roster has league taking notice
Story by Patrick McAvoy •



The St. Louis Cardinals had a transformational offseason in Chaim Bloom's first one leading the organization.

Bloom and the organization certainly didn't want to wait around any longer to really reset the franchise. The last three seasons were a struggle. Bloom's job is to turn the organization around and the Cardinals bet on the future by adding a handful of prospects this offseason.


One thing about prospects, is that they are typically not guaranteed. Just because someone is a first-round pick, doesn't mean they'll pan out. We'll see how things work out for the Cardinals, but one thing that should give St. Louis fans hope is the fact that ESPN's David Schoenfield graded the Cardinals' offense as a "B+."

The Cardinals' future is very bright.


"St. Louis Cardinals: B+," Schoenfield wrote. "Key additions: RHP Hunter Dobbins, RHP Dustin May, RHP Richard Fitts, RHP Ryne Stanek, RHP/LHP Jurrangelo Cijntje, LHP Brandon Clarke. Key departures: RHP Sonny Gray, INF Brendan Donovan, 1B Willson Contreras, 3B Nolan Arenado, RHP Miles Mikolas. Well, it's done: The rebuild, the revamp, the step back -- whatever you want to call it -- is officially complete. The only players older than 30 on the 40-man roster are relievers Riley O'Brien and Stanek. The farm system has been improved, with five top-100 prospects led by infielder JJ Wetherholt, a top Rookie of the Year candidate for 2026.


"The payroll has been trimmed some $45 million from 2025, so that will make owner Bill DeWitt happy, although the organization will have to win back the fans with better results -- eventually -- on the field. If you accept the premise of rebuilding, then Chaim Bloom did an excellent job. Improving the long-term viability of the rotation was the biggest need and Bloom did that with two separate trades with his old friends in Boston and then the Donovan deal.

"Dobbins and Fitts are more fourth/fifth-starter types, and Cijntje and Clarke are power arms with higher ceilings but reliever risk. They were two of the better prospects to switch teams this winter. What we don't know: With a payroll now half of what it was just two years ago, where will the Cardinals go in the future?"

The fact that a top league insider like Schoenfield is willing to grade the offseason this highly, should give the fanbase some solace that St. Louis made the right moves.

The biggest prospect the Cardinals brought back to town was switch-pitcher Jurrangelo Cijntje. Brandon Clarke is injured, but also profiles as a top-of-the-rotation arm. St. Louis also added No. 10 prospect Yhoiker Fajardo along with outfielders Tai Peete and Colton Ledbetter and two draft picks, among other moves.

The future is bright, Cardinals fans.
How dare you post something positive you’re supposed to be whining and crying and trash talking the cardinals or you’re a boot licker
Well, he is a "hugeCardfan" after all... :wink:
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hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:36 am I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

mantra
There will be numerous ways to measure the season, but, I think we'll see a light near the end that will allow greater clarity of purpose and resolve. I really look forward to the numerous steps to be taken this year.
Ditto
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Carp4Cy wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:49 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:36 am I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

mantra
There will be numerous ways to measure the season, but, I think we'll see a light near the end that will allow greater clarity of purpose and resolve. I really look forward to the numerous steps to be taken this year.
That's what I'm waiting for. Steps. Right now we still have this Cluster ef of mess still on the big league roster of leftover non-prospects who aren't going to be part of a successful future. As they (sooner the better) get their walking papers and we move on after seeing what we don't have, we will be in a much better position. Probably includes Oli and some coaches.
Good observation on the clearing if the non-prospects. They are just as detrimental to blocking real talent as much as the veterans we cleared out. Maybe moreso because of the false hope they might provide with spurts of productivity leading to hanging on longer. At least the vets could play. Not saying we should’ve held on to them either, but the non-prospects really need to go too.
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Lol
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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 24 Feb 2026 11:23 am
Carp4Cy wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:49 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:36 am I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

mantra
There will be numerous ways to measure the season, but, I think we'll see a light near the end that will allow greater clarity of purpose and resolve. I really look forward to the numerous steps to be taken this year.
That's what I'm waiting for. Steps. Right now we still have this Cluster ef of mess still on the big league roster of leftover non-prospects who aren't going to be part of a successful future. As they (sooner the better) get their walking papers and we move on after seeing what we don't have, we will be in a much better position. Probably includes Oli and some coaches.
Good observation on the clearing if the non-prospects. They are just as detrimental to blocking real talent as much as the veterans we cleared out. Maybe moreso because of the false hope they might provide with spurts of productivity leading to hanging on longer. At least the vets could play. Not saying we should’ve held on to them either, but the non-prospects really need to go too.
Agree on the false hope point - and they are blocking more than just existing prospects. They are seemingly blocking/blinding ownership and maybe the FO from making agressive trades for top hitting prospects from other orgs that we badly need to replace the ones that aren't going to work out for us.
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:46 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:30 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/ca ... r-AA1WUdNJ

Cardinals’ revamped roster has league taking notice
Story by Patrick McAvoy •



The St. Louis Cardinals had a transformational offseason in Chaim Bloom's first one leading the organization.

Bloom and the organization certainly didn't want to wait around any longer to really reset the franchise. The last three seasons were a struggle. Bloom's job is to turn the organization around and the Cardinals bet on the future by adding a handful of prospects this offseason.


One thing about prospects, is that they are typically not guaranteed. Just because someone is a first-round pick, doesn't mean they'll pan out. We'll see how things work out for the Cardinals, but one thing that should give St. Louis fans hope is the fact that ESPN's David Schoenfield graded the Cardinals' offense as a "B+."

The Cardinals' future is very bright.


"St. Louis Cardinals: B+," Schoenfield wrote. "Key additions: RHP Hunter Dobbins, RHP Dustin May, RHP Richard Fitts, RHP Ryne Stanek, RHP/LHP Jurrangelo Cijntje, LHP Brandon Clarke. Key departures: RHP Sonny Gray, INF Brendan Donovan, 1B Willson Contreras, 3B Nolan Arenado, RHP Miles Mikolas. Well, it's done: The rebuild, the revamp, the step back -- whatever you want to call it -- is officially complete. The only players older than 30 on the 40-man roster are relievers Riley O'Brien and Stanek. The farm system has been improved, with five top-100 prospects led by infielder JJ Wetherholt, a top Rookie of the Year candidate for 2026.


"The payroll has been trimmed some $45 million from 2025, so that will make owner Bill DeWitt happy, although the organization will have to win back the fans with better results -- eventually -- on the field. If you accept the premise of rebuilding, then Chaim Bloom did an excellent job. Improving the long-term viability of the rotation was the biggest need and Bloom did that with two separate trades with his old friends in Boston and then the Donovan deal.

"Dobbins and Fitts are more fourth/fifth-starter types, and Cijntje and Clarke are power arms with higher ceilings but reliever risk. They were two of the better prospects to switch teams this winter. What we don't know: With a payroll now half of what it was just two years ago, where will the Cardinals go in the future?"

The fact that a top league insider like Schoenfield is willing to grade the offseason this highly, should give the fanbase some solace that St. Louis made the right moves.

The biggest prospect the Cardinals brought back to town was switch-pitcher Jurrangelo Cijntje. Brandon Clarke is injured, but also profiles as a top-of-the-rotation arm. St. Louis also added No. 10 prospect Yhoiker Fajardo along with outfielders Tai Peete and Colton Ledbetter and two draft picks, among other moves.

The future is bright, Cardinals fans.
How dare you post something positive you’re supposed to be whining and crying and trash talking the cardinals or you’re a boot licker
Funny reply, Ozzie ! :lol: Thought I should add that for doing that the moderators should consider a substantial ban . Reason given .. 'Rocking the boat ' of the negative posters. lol
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I don't have to have false hope that Gorman, Walker, or Scott emerge. Doesn't matter anymore. Or that McGreevy and Graceffo become solid starting pitchers. Doesn't matter anymore. Great if they do but it doesn't matter. Can't wait to see the new kids grow and see Bloom massage this roster into a winner.
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rockondlouie wrote: 24 Feb 2026 10:36 am I may end up eating it but I'm sticking to my:

2026 Team > 2025 Team

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Better to be an optimist and be wrong than a pessimist and be right.
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