The long snooz:

[45s]

If he keeps the payroll in check, he likely doesn’t need three million to be profitable…

and if the business is profitable, what is the motivation to sell…?

[Carp4Cy]

If he keeps the payroll in check, he likely doesn’t need three million to be profitable…

and if the business is profitable, what is the motivation to sell…?

The motivation will be the salary floor in the new CBA hopefully. And maybe other external pressures brought on by long frustrated fans, and the media if they ever catch on.

[45s]

If he keeps the payroll in check, he likely doesn’t need three million to be profitable…

and if the business is profitable, what is the motivation to sell…?

The motivation will be the salary floor in the new CBA hopefully. And maybe other external pressures brought on by long frustrated fans, and the media if they ever catch on.

You’re reaching…

A floor is not likely, the fans/sheep will continue to show up, and the softest sports media in the country is not going to suddenly grow some balls…

It’s a cash cow…and wise business people don’t sell cash cows..

[Red7]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

[ecleme22]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

Speaking sense ^^^

[rockondlouie]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

No RedBaron that was done by BDWJr/Mo who gave him the extension that has him under contract for this season.

There was no need to hire a new manager in this "re-build" season, possibly even 2027 and w/the potential of a CBA lockout on the horizon.

I'd bet he and Dewitt have an agreement he can hire "his" manager the season after the new CBA is in place.

Fact of the matter is Dewitt was NOT going to pay Oli, in this throw-away season, to sit at home on his a z z AND pay another Manager this season and possible to sit on his a z z (Management gets paid during the lockout) for some time in 2028.

[Clubmaker2]

Why do people think the team that so often said "nothing was available or everything was overpriced" will be able to fill all its shortcomings in just one off season before the 2028 season. Gorman, Burleson , that is their last arb year ? so since cardinals are now poor and wont pay , they will have to trade them to get something before last year if they are any good?

[riff raff]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

No RedBaron that was done by BDWJr/Mo who gave him the extension that has him under contract for this season.

There was no need to hire a new manager in this "re-build" season, possibly even 2027 and w/the potential of a CBA lockout on the horizon.

I'd bet he and Dewitt have an agreement he can hire "his" manager the season after the new CBA is in place.

Fact of the matter is Dewitt was NOT going to pay Oli, in this throw-away season, to sit at home on his a z z AND pay another Manager this season and possible to sit on his a z z (Management gets paid during the lockout) for some time in 2028.

ok

[Talkin' Baseball]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

No RedBaron that was done by BDWJr/Mo who gave him the extension that has him under contract for this season.

There was no need to hire a new manager in this "re-build" season, possibly even 2027 and w/the potential of a CBA lockout on the horizon.

I'd bet he and Dewitt have an agreement he can hire "his" manager the season after the new CBA is in place.

Fact of the matter is Dewitt was NOT going to pay Oli, in this throw-away season, to sit at home on his a z z AND pay another Manager this season and possible to sit on his a z z (Management gets paid during the lockout) for some time in 2028.

Fact of the matter is, if you've been listening to the credible reporting from those close to the team, Bloom likes Oli. No manager stays forever, but they are not looking for an off-ramp with Marmol.

[rockondlouie]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

No RedBaron that was done by BDWJr/Mo who gave him the extension that has him under contract for this season.

There was no need to hire a new manager in this "re-build" season, possibly even 2027 and w/the potential of a CBA lockout on the horizon.

I'd bet he and Dewitt have an agreement he can hire "his" manager the season after the new CBA is in place.

Fact of the matter is Dewitt was NOT going to pay Oli, in this throw-away season, to sit at home on his a z z AND pay another Manager this season and possible to sit on his a z z (Management gets paid during the lockout) for some time in 2028.

Fact of the matter is, if you've been listening to the credible reporting from those close to the team, Bloom likes Oli. No manager stays forever, but they are not looking for an off-ramp with Marmol.

Fact of the matter is what on earth would expect him to say, he thinks Oli's a clown even after BDWJr say's he's the manager in 2026 since he's under contract?

The man is a Yale grad, he got tact and knows how to play the game.

[Talkin' Baseball]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

No RedBaron that was done by BDWJr/Mo who gave him the extension that has him under contract for this season.

There was no need to hire a new manager in this "re-build" season, possibly even 2027 and w/the potential of a CBA lockout on the horizon.

I'd bet he and Dewitt have an agreement he can hire "his" manager the season after the new CBA is in place.

Fact of the matter is Dewitt was NOT going to pay Oli, in this throw-away season, to sit at home on his a z z AND pay another Manager this season and possible to sit on his a z z (Management gets paid during the lockout) for some time in 2028.

Fact of the matter is, if you've been listening to the credible reporting from those close to the team, Bloom likes Oli. No manager stays forever, but they are not looking for an off-ramp with Marmol.

Fact of the matter is what on earth would expect him to say, he thinks Oli's a clown even after BDWJr say's he's the manager in 2026 since he's under contract?

The man is a Yale grad, he got tact and knows how to play the game.

Have it your way- there's no point in arguing. What I see is that every person with access to the team say they are aligned. I'm not taking a position on what should happen, that's just what I see in the here and now.

[rockondlouie]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

No RedBaron that was done by BDWJr/Mo who gave him the extension that has him under contract for this season.

There was no need to hire a new manager in this "re-build" season, possibly even 2027 and w/the potential of a CBA lockout on the horizon.

I'd bet he and Dewitt have an agreement he can hire "his" manager the season after the new CBA is in place.

Fact of the matter is Dewitt was NOT going to pay Oli, in this throw-away season, to sit at home on his a z z AND pay another Manager this season and possible to sit on his a z z (Management gets paid during the lockout) for some time in 2028.

Fact of the matter is, if you've been listening to the credible reporting from those close to the team, Bloom likes Oli. No manager stays forever, but they are not looking for an off-ramp with Marmol.

Fact of the matter is what on earth would expect him to say, he thinks Oli's a clown even after BDWJr say's he's the manager in 2026 since he's under contract?

The man is a Yale grad, he got tact and knows how to play the game.

Have it your way- there's no point in arguing. What I see is that every person with access to the team say they are aligned. I'm not taking a position on what should happen, that's just what I see in the here and now.

Agree it's just our opinion and always respect yours.

[Talkin' Baseball]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Bloom has hired his manager. His name is Oli Marmol. Why would Bloom take a job as POBO if he didn’t have the right to hire or fire the manager? As we have already seen, he’s fired (or forced out) many members of the previous administration. They are paying 10’s of millions for Gray and Contreras to play in Boston. Firing Marmol would be a pittance by comparison. Fact of the matter is, Marmol is the manager Bloom wants. Even if he had fired him, the new hire would be Oli Marmol, only with a different name.

No RedBaron that was done by BDWJr/Mo who gave him the extension that has him under contract for this season.

There was no need to hire a new manager in this "re-build" season, possibly even 2027 and w/the potential of a CBA lockout on the horizon.

I'd bet he and Dewitt have an agreement he can hire "his" manager the season after the new CBA is in place.

Fact of the matter is Dewitt was NOT going to pay Oli, in this throw-away season, to sit at home on his a z z AND pay another Manager this season and possible to sit on his a z z (Management gets paid during the lockout) for some time in 2028.

Fact of the matter is, if you've been listening to the credible reporting from those close to the team, Bloom likes Oli. No manager stays forever, but they are not looking for an off-ramp with Marmol.

Fact of the matter is what on earth would expect him to say, he thinks Oli's a clown even after BDWJr say's he's the manager in 2026 since he's under contract?

The man is a Yale grad, he got tact and knows how to play the game.

Have it your way- there's no point in arguing. What I see is that every person with access to the team say they are aligned. I'm not taking a position on what should happen, that's just what I see in the here and now.

Agree it's just our opinion and always respect yours.

Thanks. Same.

[CCard]

It’ll be years before we can gauge Bloom’s work properly, since so much of it depends on how the team drafts and develops, as well as future moves like trades or signings. Bloom has been going for quantity of prospects over quality, with the Cards also eating a good deal of money to ensure that they have gotten some quality.
Modernizing the Cardinals “at every level.” This suggests a multi‑year process. It will likely take 4 seasons (2026–2029) before fans can fairly evaluate Bloom’s full impact.
The first meaningful results likely appear 2028–2030. Cardinals are behind in analytics, player development, and modern scouting.

John Mozeliak had enormous influence for nearly two decades.
Atlanta

Los Angeles

Houston

Tampa Bay

Baltimore

Texas

…all modernized aggressively.

St. Louis didn’t decline — the league passed them by
And now we get older and suffer along with them.

Kinda like-Jr.Bush (I hate baseball) Dal Maxvill- and your 1970's Cards------HELP

What a crock. Springfield just won the championship. The cupboard was hardly dry. They hired more coaches and shined some things up but in the end it all comes back to talent. First and foremost talent. You can't have diamonds without carbon. St Louis is losing more and has lost more in recent years because they refuse to keep up with payroll while the other teams spent more.

[2ninr]

It’ll be years before we can gauge Bloom’s work properly, since so much of it depends on how the team drafts and develops, as well as future moves like trades or signings. Bloom has been going for quantity of prospects over quality, with the Cards also eating a good deal of money to ensure that they have gotten some quality.
Modernizing the Cardinals “at every level.” This suggests a multi‑year process. It will likely take 4 seasons (2026–2029) before fans can fairly evaluate Bloom’s full impact.
The first meaningful results likely appear 2028–2030. Cardinals are behind in analytics, player development, and modern scouting.

John Mozeliak had enormous influence for nearly two decades.
Atlanta

Los Angeles

Houston

Tampa Bay

Baltimore

Texas

…all modernized aggressively.

St. Louis didn’t decline — the league passed them by
And now we get older and suffer along with them.

Kinda like-Jr.Bush (I hate baseball) Dal Maxvill- and your 1970's Cards------HELP

The point you make about teams passing us by might be more relevant than the team being driven into the ground.

Combination of both I think.

[Stlcardsblues]

I think we could see results and become playoff contenders a lot sooner than many think as log as attendance holds above 2+M and BDWJr restores payroll to it's proper level.

The system is now up-to-date and modernized w/some quality prospects in the pipeline or about to make their debut.

2028 should be the year Dewitt let's Bloom hire his Manager and ups the payroll back to the norm.

I think the Redbirds are fine by opening day 2028.

JMO

Fully agree, this rebuild started in 2024 not 2026. It finally hit the Major Leagues this year. The organization is already two years into it. It won’t take four more years if done correctly.