1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
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Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
“6 runs in 7 innings…an obvious outlier from this awful team!”
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
I’ve gotten used to it.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 01:14 amYea that is surprisingCardinals1964 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 00:51 amIf they win Sunday, it’s only spring trading.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 23:03 pmBig plus one I have a feeling if the cards win the next game they shift their belief and believe the win is meaninglessramfandan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 22:45 pm Well let's take a closer look .. to see if this 'sounds about right'
For the 3 total hits per game , well x 162 games that would equal 486 total hits for the year
Last year, the Cardinals had 1,331 hits and ranked 20 ...... the worst team hits Guardians hasd 1,199
Would the 2026 Cardinals have over 700 less hits than last year's worst team in baseball .. .LOL
That is just one team stat from today projected for 162 games . If you think this team is going to averge 2 runs per game for the season, you have not been following MLB ! Last year the Cardinals scored 689 runs 19th in MLB based on today's 2 runs that would project to 324 runs for the 2026 season .. so LESS THAN HALF of last year![]()
Some people are getting a bit carried away thinking today's game will be typical for 2026 .
What amazes me is how many people want to see them fail.
Along with their limited knowledge of the game they also appear to be emotionally/mentally weak.
If you can’t handle following a sports team(which is entertainment not life or death) I cringe at how they must handle important real life issues??
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Well, they certainly couch things that way. But they're not spending money that they could spend right now and there is no real reason for that. So build a stronger foundation. Cool. But still no reason to go into a season as a lame duck with no chance of winning. If the foundation is stronger as you say then they would certainly benefit from a couple of stud players, wouldn't you say?WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 09:42 amI’d only quibble with one part of your point, and it may just be semantics, but I’d say they planned on a certain process for this season, and they’re content with the record being whatever the record was going to be. Record is secondary this season to building a stronger foundation for the future. Now, we can certainly debate whether that approach is wise, however, I think that’s different than planning to lose.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:50 amThat was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pmIs it too soon to declare our season is over?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Again, I realize I’m picking nits.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
I presume the idea is that while they know they’re rebuilding and they know they will be down, there’s no sense in spending “big money” to bring I folks who won’t be part of the strong future. Those dollars could be spent elsewhere — where, I don’t know. If that money can be put to use some other way that helps build the future, I’m all for that. But again, I have no idea what or how that could be. Because Inhave no control over it, I have to hope that when the time is right, the Cardinals will buy players when everything else is in place. I hope…CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 15:39 pmWell, they certainly couch things that way. But they're not spending money that they could spend right now and there is no real reason for that. So build a stronger foundation. Cool. But still no reason to go into a season as a lame duck with no chance of winning. If the foundation is stronger as you say then they would certainly benefit from a couple of stud players, wouldn't you say?WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 09:42 amI’d only quibble with one part of your point, and it may just be semantics, but I’d say they planned on a certain process for this season, and they’re content with the record being whatever the record was going to be. Record is secondary this season to building a stronger foundation for the future. Now, we can certainly debate whether that approach is wise, however, I think that’s different than planning to lose.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:50 amThat was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pmIs it too soon to declare our season is over?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Again, I realize I’m picking nits.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
I understand the concept but just feel like they're making the fans suffer needlessly. Who knows, maybe this team really surprises and contends for a playoff spot but falls short due to just too little talent. Stranger things have happened. My point is that if they're going to spend the money anyway, why make people needlessly suffer. If a player doesn't work out they can always jettison that player later.WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 17:20 pmI presume the idea is that while they know they’re rebuilding and they know they will be down, there’s no sense in spending “big money” to bring I folks who won’t be part of the strong future. Those dollars could be spent elsewhere — where, I don’t know. If that money can be put to use some other way that helps build the future, I’m all for that. But again, I have no idea what or how that could be. Because Inhave no control over it, I have to hope that when the time is right, the Cardinals will buy players when everything else is in place. I hope…CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 15:39 pmWell, they certainly couch things that way. But they're not spending money that they could spend right now and there is no real reason for that. So build a stronger foundation. Cool. But still no reason to go into a season as a lame duck with no chance of winning. If the foundation is stronger as you say then they would certainly benefit from a couple of stud players, wouldn't you say?WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 09:42 amI’d only quibble with one part of your point, and it may just be semantics, but I’d say they planned on a certain process for this season, and they’re content with the record being whatever the record was going to be. Record is secondary this season to building a stronger foundation for the future. Now, we can certainly debate whether that approach is wise, however, I think that’s different than planning to lose.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:50 amThat was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pmIs it too soon to declare our season is over?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Again, I realize I’m picking nits.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
I hear you. I hate that this will likely be a down year too. I guess I’m ok with an investment in the future as opposed to a dice roll on today. I respect your position, though.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 18:58 pmI understand the concept but just feel like they're making the fans suffer needlessly. Who knows, maybe this team really surprises and contends for a playoff spot but falls short due to just too little talent. Stranger things have happened. My point is that if they're going to spend the money anyway, why make people needlessly suffer. If a player doesn't work out they can always jettison that player later.WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 17:20 pmI presume the idea is that while they know they’re rebuilding and they know they will be down, there’s no sense in spending “big money” to bring I folks who won’t be part of the strong future. Those dollars could be spent elsewhere — where, I don’t know. If that money can be put to use some other way that helps build the future, I’m all for that. But again, I have no idea what or how that could be. Because Inhave no control over it, I have to hope that when the time is right, the Cardinals will buy players when everything else is in place. I hope…CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 15:39 pmWell, they certainly couch things that way. But they're not spending money that they could spend right now and there is no real reason for that. So build a stronger foundation. Cool. But still no reason to go into a season as a lame duck with no chance of winning. If the foundation is stronger as you say then they would certainly benefit from a couple of stud players, wouldn't you say?WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 09:42 amI’d only quibble with one part of your point, and it may just be semantics, but I’d say they planned on a certain process for this season, and they’re content with the record being whatever the record was going to be. Record is secondary this season to building a stronger foundation for the future. Now, we can certainly debate whether that approach is wise, however, I think that’s different than planning to lose.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:50 amThat was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pmIs it too soon to declare our season is over?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Again, I realize I’m picking nits.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
Thanks, I just feel that they can do both. They have to resources. They cry poor to cover up their mismanagement when they could obviously spend for the future without screwing the team and fans of the present.WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 19:21 pmI hear you. I hate that this will likely be a down year too. I guess I’m ok with an investment in the future as opposed to a dice roll on today. I respect your position, though.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 18:58 pmI understand the concept but just feel like they're making the fans suffer needlessly. Who knows, maybe this team really surprises and contends for a playoff spot but falls short due to just too little talent. Stranger things have happened. My point is that if they're going to spend the money anyway, why make people needlessly suffer. If a player doesn't work out they can always jettison that player later.WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 17:20 pmI presume the idea is that while they know they’re rebuilding and they know they will be down, there’s no sense in spending “big money” to bring I folks who won’t be part of the strong future. Those dollars could be spent elsewhere — where, I don’t know. If that money can be put to use some other way that helps build the future, I’m all for that. But again, I have no idea what or how that could be. Because Inhave no control over it, I have to hope that when the time is right, the Cardinals will buy players when everything else is in place. I hope…CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 15:39 pmWell, they certainly couch things that way. But they're not spending money that they could spend right now and there is no real reason for that. So build a stronger foundation. Cool. But still no reason to go into a season as a lame duck with no chance of winning. If the foundation is stronger as you say then they would certainly benefit from a couple of stud players, wouldn't you say?WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 09:42 amI’d only quibble with one part of your point, and it may just be semantics, but I’d say they planned on a certain process for this season, and they’re content with the record being whatever the record was going to be. Record is secondary this season to building a stronger foundation for the future. Now, we can certainly debate whether that approach is wise, however, I think that’s different than planning to lose.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:50 amThat was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pmIs it too soon to declare our season is over?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Again, I realize I’m picking nits.
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Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
I think they're truly waiting to see what happens with the labor contract. If something drastic happens, I'm sure that teams who are over any limit, will be grandfathered, but unable to continue adding to their team salary , which at that point, teams like the Cardinals could get involved in a more competitive free agent spending market. At the same time, 26 will be the cut bait or fish year for a few players.CCard wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 07:53 amThanks, I just feel that they can do both. They have to resources. They cry poor to cover up their mismanagement when they could obviously spend for the future without screwing the team and fans of the present.WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 19:21 pmI hear you. I hate that this will likely be a down year too. I guess I’m ok with an investment in the future as opposed to a dice roll on today. I respect your position, though.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 18:58 pmI understand the concept but just feel like they're making the fans suffer needlessly. Who knows, maybe this team really surprises and contends for a playoff spot but falls short due to just too little talent. Stranger things have happened. My point is that if they're going to spend the money anyway, why make people needlessly suffer. If a player doesn't work out they can always jettison that player later.WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 17:20 pmI presume the idea is that while they know they’re rebuilding and they know they will be down, there’s no sense in spending “big money” to bring I folks who won’t be part of the strong future. Those dollars could be spent elsewhere — where, I don’t know. If that money can be put to use some other way that helps build the future, I’m all for that. But again, I have no idea what or how that could be. Because Inhave no control over it, I have to hope that when the time is right, the Cardinals will buy players when everything else is in place. I hope…CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 15:39 pmWell, they certainly couch things that way. But they're not spending money that they could spend right now and there is no real reason for that. So build a stronger foundation. Cool. But still no reason to go into a season as a lame duck with no chance of winning. If the foundation is stronger as you say then they would certainly benefit from a couple of stud players, wouldn't you say?WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 09:42 amI’d only quibble with one part of your point, and it may just be semantics, but I’d say they planned on a certain process for this season, and they’re content with the record being whatever the record was going to be. Record is secondary this season to building a stronger foundation for the future. Now, we can certainly debate whether that approach is wise, however, I think that’s different than planning to lose.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:50 amThat was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pmIs it too soon to declare our season is over?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Again, I realize I’m picking nits.
Just my thoughts, for what thats worth.
Re: 1st game...3 total hits...11 k's...Fernandez .2 innings 4 ER..sounds about rigtht
I do believe the labor situation is playing a key role in them being so thrifty. They've always been on the look out for cheap prices, even on their premium players and have a reputation for not bidding on players. I just believe they could provide decent entertainment for the fans and that they've decided not to. It's a choice and they've apparently made it.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 09:06 amI think they're truly waiting to see what happens with the labor contract. If something drastic happens, I'm sure that teams who are over any limit, will be grandfathered, but unable to continue adding to their team salary , which at that point, teams like the Cardinals could get involved in a more competitive free agent spending market. At the same time, 26 will be the cut bait or fish year for a few players.CCard wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026 07:53 amThanks, I just feel that they can do both. They have to resources. They cry poor to cover up their mismanagement when they could obviously spend for the future without screwing the team and fans of the present.WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 19:21 pmI hear you. I hate that this will likely be a down year too. I guess I’m ok with an investment in the future as opposed to a dice roll on today. I respect your position, though.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 18:58 pmI understand the concept but just feel like they're making the fans suffer needlessly. Who knows, maybe this team really surprises and contends for a playoff spot but falls short due to just too little talent. Stranger things have happened. My point is that if they're going to spend the money anyway, why make people needlessly suffer. If a player doesn't work out they can always jettison that player later.WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 17:20 pmI presume the idea is that while they know they’re rebuilding and they know they will be down, there’s no sense in spending “big money” to bring I folks who won’t be part of the strong future. Those dollars could be spent elsewhere — where, I don’t know. If that money can be put to use some other way that helps build the future, I’m all for that. But again, I have no idea what or how that could be. Because Inhave no control over it, I have to hope that when the time is right, the Cardinals will buy players when everything else is in place. I hope…CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 15:39 pmWell, they certainly couch things that way. But they're not spending money that they could spend right now and there is no real reason for that. So build a stronger foundation. Cool. But still no reason to go into a season as a lame duck with no chance of winning. If the foundation is stronger as you say then they would certainly benefit from a couple of stud players, wouldn't you say?WeeVikes wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 09:42 amI’d only quibble with one part of your point, and it may just be semantics, but I’d say they planned on a certain process for this season, and they’re content with the record being whatever the record was going to be. Record is secondary this season to building a stronger foundation for the future. Now, we can certainly debate whether that approach is wise, however, I think that’s different than planning to lose.CCard wrote: ↑22 Feb 2026 08:50 amThat was done last year. They planned to lose and that's what will happen.WeeVikes wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 21:31 pmIs it too soon to declare our season is over?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2026 20:44 pm+1 people are actually freaking out about game one of spring training including freaking out about the lineup of game one of spring training
Again, I realize I’m picking nits.
Just my thoughts, for what thats worth.