Joe Roderick gives Sunday ST report: Herrera, Stanek, JJ

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Re: Joe Roderick gives Sunday ST report: Herrera, Stanek, JJ

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renostl wrote: 17 Feb 2026 15:18 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 17 Feb 2026 15:02 pm
renostl wrote: 17 Feb 2026 12:38 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 16 Feb 2026 17:24 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 16 Feb 2026 17:15 pm
Melville wrote: 16 Feb 2026 16:06 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 16 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Melville wrote: 16 Feb 2026 15:48 pm
Jatalk wrote: 16 Feb 2026 14:07 pm
The report on IH was not glowing. Sounds like even he is not satisfied with his throwing. But early.

I sort of laugh when they talk about Yadi coming in for a day. He ain’t fixing IH in a day.
Or a week.
Or a month.
Or a year.
Or a decade.
Can Gorman or Walker be fixed in that amount of time ?
Herrera can never be an adequate MLB catcher from the perspective of defense.
Not going to happen - pitchers will simply not permit it.
Maybe a DH, or LF, or 1B - if he can prove the brief power surge in September was not a fluke.
Gorman can be "fixed" by hitting 2 more singles in every 100 PA's.
Walker probably needs to be traded to a different organization - the current staff broke his game and is therefore likely incompetent to help him.
Mel,

While usually right, you are wrong on Herrera.
Apparently, the Cards have a speed gun on the catchers’ throws in Jupiter this spring. Joe Roderick said that IH’s throws were significantly slower speed than the other catchers. He even asked if the gun was calibrated correctly.

Bloom is giving IH a courtesy look at C this spring. I don’t think it will end with IH starting 80+ games at C this year. He just can’t keep up with a running team.
I didn't notice in the video where he was compared to other catchers or the description
significantly slower. The video was comments were vague imo.
The results were obviously less than IH expected but what that means and to what
extent it was less was not said.

The range in speed that catchers are throw at isn't that wide or is it the complete picture.
According to Statcast IH has thrown at 79.1 mph back a couple seasons ago.

Top 20 in the league was 80.7. Pages was one of the catchers to throw 80.7 mph, Pozo 78.8.
85.3 mph was tops by Dingler. Notable catchers-- Kirk, Smith, William Contreras were all in the 79's.
Salvador Perez 77.1, Wells 77.9, Narvaez 76.8. The long of it the narrow range along with the MPH
isn't a complete picture and does not necessarily correlate with CS above average.

The report would be more informative if it gave the numbers that they were disappointed in seeing.

IH doesn't have to be a primary catcher and may never be one with the Cards depth there. It's a better
roster though if there's not 3 catchers and multiple slow guys on it.
I’m not rooting against the guy. I’m just repeating what Joe Roderick said in the podcast.
You didn't mention a single thing to suggest that you were rooting against him.

I just suggested that he doesn't need to be a primary catcher and we didn't get
much information as why IH may have been disappointed in the readings.
Joe Roderick’s report said as much.
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Re: Joe Roderick gives Sunday ST report: Herrera, Stanek, JJ

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BrockFloodMaris wrote: 16 Feb 2026 17:24 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 16 Feb 2026 17:15 pm
Melville wrote: 16 Feb 2026 16:06 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 16 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Melville wrote: 16 Feb 2026 15:48 pm
Jatalk wrote: 16 Feb 2026 14:07 pm
The report on IH was not glowing. Sounds like even he is not satisfied with his throwing. But early.

I sort of laugh when they talk about Yadi coming in for a day. He ain’t fixing IH in a day.
Or a week.
Or a month.
Or a year.
Or a decade.
Can Gorman or Walker be fixed in that amount of time ?
Herrera can never be an adequate MLB catcher from the perspective of defense.
Not going to happen - pitchers will simply not permit it.
Maybe a DH, or LF, or 1B - if he can prove the brief power surge in September was not a fluke.
Gorman can be "fixed" by hitting 2 more singles in every 100 PA's.
Walker probably needs to be traded to a different organization - the current staff broke his game and is therefore likely incompetent to help him.
Mel,

While usually right, you are wrong on Herrera.
Apparently, the Cards have a speed gun on the catchers’ throws in Jupiter this spring. Joe Roderick said that IH’s throws were significantly slower speed than the other catchers. He even asked if the gun was calibrated correctly.

Bloom is giving IH a courtesy look at C this spring. I don’t think it will end with IH starting 80+ games at C this year. He just can’t keep up with a running team.
There is no way anyone believes that Herrera can be a passable catcher after watching him last year. Yeah, it sucks and the team would be much better for it if he could be but he can’t. He’s going to have to DH or possibly play 1B
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