Are They Serious About A RHH?

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Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:22 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:18 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:15 pm I hear Bloom hinting (teasing?) about perhaps making more moves. Is he serious, or just putting comments out there to keep the fanbase engaged? While it makes for great press and gives "journalists" starving for material something write, or talk about, trades of even modest magnitude seldom get done by any team once spring training begins.

If he is serious, here are two teams that still have needs we match up with and have players that would be helpful to us. I've mentioned both previously.

The Orioles just lost Jackson Holliday for some time with a broken hamate. They also still need pitching depth, both in the rotation and the bullpen. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that they are entertaining trading either Ryan Mountcastle, or Coby Mayo. Offer Thomas Saggese (13.2 BTV) for Mayo (BTV 8.3). Saggese can fill in for Holliday and move around when he comes back. Include a minor league pitcher if it helps. Or, expand the deal and also send them Romero (BTV 6.3) for their Comp A pick (BTV 5) in addition the Mayo-Saggese proposal. It doesn't have to be these exact players, but there is definitely a fit to be had- work it out.

The A's still need starting pitching at any level and have a glut of outfielders. Offer Andre Pallante (BTV 7) and Pete Hansen (BTV 2.3) for OF Colby Thomas. Again, it doesn't have to be exactly these players, but there is some type of fit- work it out.

There you go- 2 RHH. Coby and Colby.
I've wanted Coby Mayo for a while now. Where does he play then? 3B? Moving Gorman to DH. 1B? Moving Burly to OF or DH.
I guess any of that is on the table. He plays 3B/1B. He could platoon with Gorman. He could play 1B and send Burleson to LF until Noot gets back, or he still has one more option left. You could send him to Memphis and let the development people work with him, give Gorman a full chance to sink or swim with a real option if he fails, and keep Burleson at 1B. I guess if you really liked Gorman and Mayo by mid-summer, you may start wondering what you could get for Burleson.
Question. Could he be holding off on adding anymore infielders to the equation? There is a lot of shuffling to get playing time. Of course you did suggest Saggese as a trade piece.
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Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:04 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:44 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:32 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:19 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:03 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?
Not much.
They don't need yet another RH hitting 1B/DH/3B option after spending the off-season clearing the clutter from those very roles - and they still have Saggese on hand as Plan B if needed.
Mayo accomplishes nothing.
Mayo has really big upside. I think he needs a change of scenery.
That does not make him a fit.
Realistically, his best position is DH.
His has produced LESS than Walker, Herrea, Gorman, or Burleson in the early stages of his career and there is zero indication that he will be any better long-term - while his glove is worse than any from that group.
It would be silly to add him to the mix while continuing to ignore the black hole in the outfield.
Wrong guy, wrong time.
I'd argue we should be acquiring all the high-upside talent ee can find this year and see what we have. There is NOBODY blocking anyone on this roster. Get the talent and figure out who can play!
Respectfully, we disagree - which is uncommon.
Amassing duplicative bodies and hoping to get lucky is a poor substitute for intentional and strategic organization building.
Super Slo Mo believed in the power of love.
I don't want to see the Cardinals replace that with a POBO who believes in pure dumb luck.
I prefer informed, calculated, data driven decision making.
They need a RH hitting outfielder.
Mayo will never be one.
Wrong guy, wrong time, wrong fit.
I understand your point. I also have always thought that Coby Mayo was going to be a star. Now I could be wrong, but I think he is young enough to still get that out of him. (Same for Dominguez, too.) I think some players, though appearing redundant, are worth taling that chance on. Mayo, IMO, is that guy.
I have already allowed that Dominguez makes some sense - but only if not too much is expected from him and only if Mootbaar is moved.
Same applies to Mayo - adding him would only make sense if Bloom is already decided on trading Burleson or Herrera.
Neither are good fits for the roster as currently constructed.
Again, the far more logical choice, if Bloom moves assets in order to make an addition is to acquire a RH corner outfield bat.
Failing to do so this off-season is one of the two blunders he has made, and it would be silly to merely shuffle deck chairs hoping to magically get lucky rather than leverage assets in a way to strategically address actual areas of need.
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Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

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Jatalk wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:12 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:22 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:18 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:15 pm I hear Bloom hinting (teasing?) about perhaps making more moves. Is he serious, or just putting comments out there to keep the fanbase engaged? While it makes for great press and gives "journalists" starving for material something write, or talk about, trades of even modest magnitude seldom get done by any team once spring training begins.

If he is serious, here are two teams that still have needs we match up with and have players that would be helpful to us. I've mentioned both previously.

The Orioles just lost Jackson Holliday for some time with a broken hamate. They also still need pitching depth, both in the rotation and the bullpen. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that they are entertaining trading either Ryan Mountcastle, or Coby Mayo. Offer Thomas Saggese (13.2 BTV) for Mayo (BTV 8.3). Saggese can fill in for Holliday and move around when he comes back. Include a minor league pitcher if it helps. Or, expand the deal and also send them Romero (BTV 6.3) for their Comp A pick (BTV 5) in addition the Mayo-Saggese proposal. It doesn't have to be these exact players, but there is definitely a fit to be had- work it out.

The A's still need starting pitching at any level and have a glut of outfielders. Offer Andre Pallante (BTV 7) and Pete Hansen (BTV 2.3) for OF Colby Thomas. Again, it doesn't have to be exactly these players, but there is some type of fit- work it out.

There you go- 2 RHH. Coby and Colby.
I've wanted Coby Mayo for a while now. Where does he play then? 3B? Moving Gorman to DH. 1B? Moving Burly to OF or DH.
I guess any of that is on the table. He plays 3B/1B. He could platoon with Gorman. He could play 1B and send Burleson to LF until Noot gets back, or he still has one more option left. You could send him to Memphis and let the development people work with him, give Gorman a full chance to sink or swim with a real option if he fails, and keep Burleson at 1B. I guess if you really liked Gorman and Mayo by mid-summer, you may start wondering what you could get for Burleson.
Question. Could he be holding off on adding anymore infielders to the equation? There is a lot of shuffling to get playing time. Of course you did suggest Saggese as a trade piece.
I did. I also suggested he could play some 1B with Burleson going to the OF at times. Presently the closest thing we have to a backup 1B is Gorman.
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Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

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Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:15 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:04 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:44 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:32 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:19 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:03 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?
Not much.
They don't need yet another RH hitting 1B/DH/3B option after spending the off-season clearing the clutter from those very roles - and they still have Saggese on hand as Plan B if needed.
Mayo accomplishes nothing.
Mayo has really big upside. I think he needs a change of scenery.
That does not make him a fit.
Realistically, his best position is DH.
His has produced LESS than Walker, Herrea, Gorman, or Burleson in the early stages of his career and there is zero indication that he will be any better long-term - while his glove is worse than any from that group.
It would be silly to add him to the mix while continuing to ignore the black hole in the outfield.
Wrong guy, wrong time.
I'd argue we should be acquiring all the high-upside talent ee can find this year and see what we have. There is NOBODY blocking anyone on this roster. Get the talent and figure out who can play!
Respectfully, we disagree - which is uncommon.
Amassing duplicative bodies and hoping to get lucky is a poor substitute for intentional and strategic organization building.
Super Slo Mo believed in the power of love.
I don't want to see the Cardinals replace that with a POBO who believes in pure dumb luck.
I prefer informed, calculated, data driven decision making.
They need a RH hitting outfielder.
Mayo will never be one.
Wrong guy, wrong time, wrong fit.
I understand your point. I also have always thought that Coby Mayo was going to be a star. Now I could be wrong, but I think he is young enough to still get that out of him. (Same for Dominguez, too.) I think some players, though appearing redundant, are worth taling that chance on. Mayo, IMO, is that guy.
I have already allowed that Dominguez makes some sense - but only if not too much is expected from him and only if Mootbaar is moved.
Same applies to Mayo - adding him would only make sense if Bloom is already decided on trading Burleson or Herrera.
Neither are good fits for the roster as currently constructed.
Again, the far more logical choice, if Bloom moves assets in order to make an addition is to acquire a RH corner outfield bat.
Failing to do so this off-season is one of the two blunders he has made, and it would be silly to merely shuffle deck chairs hoping to magically get lucky rather than leverage assets in a way to strategically address actual areas of need.
An idea for this was addressed in the opening post. They will be working for awhile to straighten out the roster.
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Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

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Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:15 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:04 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:44 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:32 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:19 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:03 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?
Not much.
They don't need yet another RH hitting 1B/DH/3B option after spending the off-season clearing the clutter from those very roles - and they still have Saggese on hand as Plan B if needed.
Mayo accomplishes nothing.
Mayo has really big upside. I think he needs a change of scenery.
That does not make him a fit.
Realistically, his best position is DH.
His has produced LESS than Walker, Herrea, Gorman, or Burleson in the early stages of his career and there is zero indication that he will be any better long-term - while his glove is worse than any from that group.
It would be silly to add him to the mix while continuing to ignore the black hole in the outfield.
Wrong guy, wrong time.
I'd argue we should be acquiring all the high-upside talent ee can find this year and see what we have. There is NOBODY blocking anyone on this roster. Get the talent and figure out who can play!
Respectfully, we disagree - which is uncommon.
Amassing duplicative bodies and hoping to get lucky is a poor substitute for intentional and strategic organization building.
Super Slo Mo believed in the power of love.
I don't want to see the Cardinals replace that with a POBO who believes in pure dumb luck.
I prefer informed, calculated, data driven decision making.
They need a RH hitting outfielder.
Mayo will never be one.
Wrong guy, wrong time, wrong fit.
I understand your point. I also have always thought that Coby Mayo was going to be a star. Now I could be wrong, but I think he is young enough to still get that out of him. (Same for Dominguez, too.) I think some players, though appearing redundant, are worth taling that chance on. Mayo, IMO, is that guy.
I have already allowed that Dominguez makes some sense - but only if not too much is expected from him and only if Mootbaar is moved.
Same applies to Mayo - adding him would only make sense if Bloom is already decided on trading Burleson or Herrera.
Neither are good fits for the roster as currently constructed.
Again, the far more logical choice, if Bloom moves assets in order to make an addition is to acquire a RH corner outfield bat.
Failing to do so this off-season is one of the two blunders he has made, and it would be silly to merely shuffle deck chairs hoping to magically get lucky rather than leverage assets in a way to strategically address actual areas of need.
Or Gorman. Mayo would provide a RH option for 3B, thereby eliminating some of the Lefhandedness on the team. (Gorman could also DH.)

I guess Ramos could be used the same way. I think both Ramos and Mayo have some hidden upside (Mayo with a little more).

Could also put Mayo at 1st, Gorman at 3B, and Burleson back in the OF (or DH). Lots of possible options.
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Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:19 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:15 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:04 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:44 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:32 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:19 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:03 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?
Not much.
They don't need yet another RH hitting 1B/DH/3B option after spending the off-season clearing the clutter from those very roles - and they still have Saggese on hand as Plan B if needed.
Mayo accomplishes nothing.
Mayo has really big upside. I think he needs a change of scenery.
That does not make him a fit.
Realistically, his best position is DH.
His has produced LESS than Walker, Herrea, Gorman, or Burleson in the early stages of his career and there is zero indication that he will be any better long-term - while his glove is worse than any from that group.
It would be silly to add him to the mix while continuing to ignore the black hole in the outfield.
Wrong guy, wrong time.
I'd argue we should be acquiring all the high-upside talent ee can find this year and see what we have. There is NOBODY blocking anyone on this roster. Get the talent and figure out who can play!
Respectfully, we disagree - which is uncommon.
Amassing duplicative bodies and hoping to get lucky is a poor substitute for intentional and strategic organization building.
Super Slo Mo believed in the power of love.
I don't want to see the Cardinals replace that with a POBO who believes in pure dumb luck.
I prefer informed, calculated, data driven decision making.
They need a RH hitting outfielder.
Mayo will never be one.
Wrong guy, wrong time, wrong fit.
I understand your point. I also have always thought that Coby Mayo was going to be a star. Now I could be wrong, but I think he is young enough to still get that out of him. (Same for Dominguez, too.) I think some players, though appearing redundant, are worth taling that chance on. Mayo, IMO, is that guy.
I have already allowed that Dominguez makes some sense - but only if not too much is expected from him and only if Mootbaar is moved.
Same applies to Mayo - adding him would only make sense if Bloom is already decided on trading Burleson or Herrera.
Neither are good fits for the roster as currently constructed.
Again, the far more logical choice, if Bloom moves assets in order to make an addition is to acquire a RH corner outfield bat.
Failing to do so this off-season is one of the two blunders he has made, and it would be silly to merely shuffle deck chairs hoping to magically get lucky rather than leverage assets in a way to strategically address actual areas of need.
An idea for this was addressed in the opening post. They will be working for awhile to straighten out the roster.
Makes zero logical or strategic sense to spend assets to add what is not needed and ignore that which is needed.
But again, Bloom's inaction on that obviously correct point makes is very, very obvious (as I alone have correctly analyzed and explained previously) that he wants to bet on Walker, Baez, and Herrera as RH hitting outfield candidates going into 2026 - and intends to only return to this topic when he is ready to move on from that trio as potential answers to the black hole which bedevils the team.
It is the ONLY reasonable conclusion because the only alternative is to believe Bloom is extremely stupid - which I do not believe in the case.
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Re: Are They Serious About A RHH?

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Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:19 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:15 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:04 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:44 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:32 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:19 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:03 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 14:49 pm For instance, would you give up Quinn Mathews, or Tink Hence?
For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?
Not much.
They don't need yet another RH hitting 1B/DH/3B option after spending the off-season clearing the clutter from those very roles - and they still have Saggese on hand as Plan B if needed.
Mayo accomplishes nothing.
Mayo has really big upside. I think he needs a change of scenery.
That does not make him a fit.
Realistically, his best position is DH.
His has produced LESS than Walker, Herrea, Gorman, or Burleson in the early stages of his career and there is zero indication that he will be any better long-term - while his glove is worse than any from that group.
It would be silly to add him to the mix while continuing to ignore the black hole in the outfield.
Wrong guy, wrong time.
I'd argue we should be acquiring all the high-upside talent ee can find this year and see what we have. There is NOBODY blocking anyone on this roster. Get the talent and figure out who can play!
Respectfully, we disagree - which is uncommon.
Amassing duplicative bodies and hoping to get lucky is a poor substitute for intentional and strategic organization building.
Super Slo Mo believed in the power of love.
I don't want to see the Cardinals replace that with a POBO who believes in pure dumb luck.
I prefer informed, calculated, data driven decision making.
They need a RH hitting outfielder.
Mayo will never be one.
Wrong guy, wrong time, wrong fit.
I understand your point. I also have always thought that Coby Mayo was going to be a star. Now I could be wrong, but I think he is young enough to still get that out of him. (Same for Dominguez, too.) I think some players, though appearing redundant, are worth taling that chance on. Mayo, IMO, is that guy.
I have already allowed that Dominguez makes some sense - but only if not too much is expected from him and only if Mootbaar is moved.
Same applies to Mayo - adding him would only make sense if Bloom is already decided on trading Burleson or Herrera.
Neither are good fits for the roster as currently constructed.
Again, the far more logical choice, if Bloom moves assets in order to make an addition is to acquire a RH corner outfield bat.
Failing to do so this off-season is one of the two blunders he has made, and it would be silly to merely shuffle deck chairs hoping to magically get lucky rather than leverage assets in a way to strategically address actual areas of need.
An idea for this was addressed in the opening post. They will be working for awhile to straighten out the roster.
Makes zero logical or strategic sense to spend assets to add what is not needed and ignore that which is needed.
But again, Bloom's inaction on that obviously correct point makes is very, very obvious (as I alone have correctly analyzed and explained previously) that he wants to bet on Walker, Baez, and Herrera as RH hitting outfield candidates going into 2026 - and intends to only return to this topic when he is ready to move on from that trio as potential answers to the black hole which bedevils the team.
It is the ONLY reasonable conclusion because the only alternative is to believe Bloom is extremely stupid - which I do not believe in the case.
So you think Bloom is falling in love.......and falling hard?
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I believe Saggese has way more upside than Mayo. Mayo, isn’t all that good defensively according to some reports. Saggese has a very good glove, his arm strength is his major draw back on playing 3B. The only thing Mayo might do better than Saggese is hit for power, but that’s not a given. Saggese doesnt get much love on here, not sure why? Has he produced at the Major League level, not yet. Has he been given much of a chance to, no, not yet! I’d like to see if he can come close to replicating his AA numbers before calling him a jag!
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:30 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:28 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:19 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:15 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:04 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:44 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:32 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:19 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:03 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 16:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:38 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 15:34 pm

For the right return (an average RH corner outfielder), yes.
Agree with you, but in this specific case we are talking about Coby Mayo. What do you think about that?
Not much.
They don't need yet another RH hitting 1B/DH/3B option after spending the off-season clearing the clutter from those very roles - and they still have Saggese on hand as Plan B if needed.
Mayo accomplishes nothing.
Mayo has really big upside. I think he needs a change of scenery.
That does not make him a fit.
Realistically, his best position is DH.
His has produced LESS than Walker, Herrea, Gorman, or Burleson in the early stages of his career and there is zero indication that he will be any better long-term - while his glove is worse than any from that group.
It would be silly to add him to the mix while continuing to ignore the black hole in the outfield.
Wrong guy, wrong time.
I'd argue we should be acquiring all the high-upside talent ee can find this year and see what we have. There is NOBODY blocking anyone on this roster. Get the talent and figure out who can play!
Respectfully, we disagree - which is uncommon.
Amassing duplicative bodies and hoping to get lucky is a poor substitute for intentional and strategic organization building.
Super Slo Mo believed in the power of love.
I don't want to see the Cardinals replace that with a POBO who believes in pure dumb luck.
I prefer informed, calculated, data driven decision making.
They need a RH hitting outfielder.
Mayo will never be one.
Wrong guy, wrong time, wrong fit.
I understand your point. I also have always thought that Coby Mayo was going to be a star. Now I could be wrong, but I think he is young enough to still get that out of him. (Same for Dominguez, too.) I think some players, though appearing redundant, are worth taling that chance on. Mayo, IMO, is that guy.
I have already allowed that Dominguez makes some sense - but only if not too much is expected from him and only if Mootbaar is moved.
Same applies to Mayo - adding him would only make sense if Bloom is already decided on trading Burleson or Herrera.
Neither are good fits for the roster as currently constructed.
Again, the far more logical choice, if Bloom moves assets in order to make an addition is to acquire a RH corner outfield bat.
Failing to do so this off-season is one of the two blunders he has made, and it would be silly to merely shuffle deck chairs hoping to magically get lucky rather than leverage assets in a way to strategically address actual areas of need.
An idea for this was addressed in the opening post. They will be working for awhile to straighten out the roster.
Makes zero logical or strategic sense to spend assets to add what is not needed and ignore that which is needed.
But again, Bloom's inaction on that obviously correct point makes is very, very obvious (as I alone have correctly analyzed and explained previously) that he wants to bet on Walker, Baez, and Herrera as RH hitting outfield candidates going into 2026 - and intends to only return to this topic when he is ready to move on from that trio as potential answers to the black hole which bedevils the team.
It is the ONLY reasonable conclusion because the only alternative is to believe Bloom is extremely stupid - which I do not believe in the case.
So you think Bloom is falling in love.......and falling hard?
Nice - but no.
Super Slo gifted whoever was the object of his affection at any given time with protected status - and only adjusted long after his heart had been broken.
Bloom will create competition, evaluate performance, and make decisions.
Some right, some wrong (as is inevitable) - but at least it will be based on a rational thought process.
Personally, I think Bloom is wrong in his current calculation and has blundered in not addressing the outfield while actually making it far worse that it was at year end - but we shall see.
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Hoosier59 wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:33 pm I believe Saggese has way more upside than Mayo. Mayo, isn’t all that good defensively according to some reports. Saggese has a very good glove, his arm strength is his major draw back on playing 3B. The only thing Mayo might do better than Saggese is hit for power, but that’s not a given. Saggese doesnt get much love on here, not sure why? Has he produced at the Major League level, not yet. Has he been given much of a chance to, no, not yet! I’d like to see if he can come close to replicating his AA numbers before calling him a jag!
No bigger Saggese fan on here than me!
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Hoosier59 wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:33 pm I believe Saggese has way more upside than Mayo. Mayo, isn’t all that good defensively according to some reports. Saggese has a very good glove, his arm strength is his major draw back on playing 3B. The only thing Mayo might do better than Saggese is hit for power, but that’s not a given. Saggese doesnt get much love on here, not sure why? Has he produced at the Major League level, not yet. Has he been given much of a chance to, no, not yet! I’d like to see if he can come close to replicating his AA numbers before calling him a jag!
Mayo likely has a higher ceiling - but is also less likely to reach his than Saggese is.
Agree that, at this moment, giving Saggese a bit more of a look (which costs nothing) makes far more logical sense than surrendering assets to give Mayo one.
Timing is all wrong.
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Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:33 pm I believe Saggese has way more upside than Mayo. Mayo, isn’t all that good defensively according to some reports. Saggese has a very good glove, his arm strength is his major draw back on playing 3B. The only thing Mayo might do better than Saggese is hit for power, but that’s not a given. Saggese doesnt get much love on here, not sure why? Has he produced at the Major League level, not yet. Has he been given much of a chance to, no, not yet! I’d like to see if he can come close to replicating his AA numbers before calling him a jag!
Mayo likely has a higher ceiling - but is also less likely to reach his than Saggese is.
Agree that, at this moment, giving Saggese a bit more of a look (which costs nothing) makes far more logical sense than surrendering assets to give Mayo one.
Timing is all wrong.
Even for say a Pallante?
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A right handed bat makes sense on this roster if that player can play a passable CF
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 18:07 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:33 pm I believe Saggese has way more upside than Mayo. Mayo, isn’t all that good defensively according to some reports. Saggese has a very good glove, his arm strength is his major draw back on playing 3B. The only thing Mayo might do better than Saggese is hit for power, but that’s not a given. Saggese doesnt get much love on here, not sure why? Has he produced at the Major League level, not yet. Has he been given much of a chance to, no, not yet! I’d like to see if he can come close to replicating his AA numbers before calling him a jag!
Mayo likely has a higher ceiling - but is also less likely to reach his than Saggese is.
Agree that, at this moment, giving Saggese a bit more of a look (which costs nothing) makes far more logical sense than surrendering assets to give Mayo one.
Timing is all wrong.
Even for say a Pallante?
BLT would hold the Mayo if that was on the menu.
But Pallante would probably return Mountcastle - which would make far more sense strategically for the Cardinals for a number of reasons.
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Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 18:30 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 18:07 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:33 pm I believe Saggese has way more upside than Mayo. Mayo, isn’t all that good defensively according to some reports. Saggese has a very good glove, his arm strength is his major draw back on playing 3B. The only thing Mayo might do better than Saggese is hit for power, but that’s not a given. Saggese doesnt get much love on here, not sure why? Has he produced at the Major League level, not yet. Has he been given much of a chance to, no, not yet! I’d like to see if he can come close to replicating his AA numbers before calling him a jag!
Mayo likely has a higher ceiling - but is also less likely to reach his than Saggese is.
Agree that, at this moment, giving Saggese a bit more of a look (which costs nothing) makes far more logical sense than surrendering assets to give Mayo one.
Timing is all wrong.
Even for say a Pallante?
BLT would hold the Mayo in that was on the menu.
But Pallante would probably return Mountcastle - which would make far more sense strategically for the Cardinals for a number of reasons.
Agreed.

What about Fitts?

Or Romero and Pallante/Fitts?
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 18:33 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 18:30 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 15 Feb 2026 18:07 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 15 Feb 2026 17:33 pm I believe Saggese has way more upside than Mayo. Mayo, isn’t all that good defensively according to some reports. Saggese has a very good glove, his arm strength is his major draw back on playing 3B. The only thing Mayo might do better than Saggese is hit for power, but that’s not a given. Saggese doesnt get much love on here, not sure why? Has he produced at the Major League level, not yet. Has he been given much of a chance to, no, not yet! I’d like to see if he can come close to replicating his AA numbers before calling him a jag!
Mayo likely has a higher ceiling - but is also less likely to reach his than Saggese is.
Agree that, at this moment, giving Saggese a bit more of a look (which costs nothing) makes far more logical sense than surrendering assets to give Mayo one.
Timing is all wrong.
Even for say a Pallante?
BLT would hold the Mayo if that was on the menu.
But Pallante would probably return Mountcastle - which would make far more sense strategically for the Cardinals for a number of reasons.
Agreed.

What about Fitts?

Or Romero and Pallante/Fitts?
Still no.
The last thing The Marmot needs is more pieces to shuffle in and out of the lineup, rotating through off-fitting positions, based on whatever his whim each day might be.
That has been a huge part of the problem that past few years, causing a jumbled mess on his part which resolves nothing.
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