seattleblue wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 13:10 pm
To compete for a Cup outside of the fluke run hope scenario which is very rare, your cornerstones better be two high end centers, a true #1 defenseman and a playoff nails goalie. Then give me quality & depth everywhere else.
Said it many many times but Dvorsky is one of these needed pieces, he is one of the cornerstones we need at center. We have not seen in a Blues uniform yet what it's fully going to be, but it will emerge. There is too much depth to his ability and intention for it not to happen if he stays healthy.
Are you building around Thomas and Dvorsky?
We are sitting with uncomfortable ambiguity. I would build around the post-break Thomas last year, but not around the Thomas who showed up this year. It's also his prime. This is it.
I don't have full faith in Thomas as we sit here today. He seems average. Barely shoots, knows he has to shoot, can't make himself.
seattleblue wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 13:10 pm
To compete for a Cup outside of the fluke run hope scenario which is very rare, your cornerstones better be two high end centers, a true #1 defenseman and a playoff nails goalie. Then give me quality & depth everywhere else.
Said it many many times but Dvorsky is one of these needed pieces, he is one of the cornerstones we need at center. We have not seen in a Blues uniform yet what it's fully going to be, but it will emerge. There is too much depth to his ability and intention for it not to happen if he stays healthy.
Are you building around Thomas and Dvorsky?
We are sitting with uncomfortable ambiguity. I would build around the post-break Thomas last year, but not around the Thomas who showed up this year. It's also his prime. This is it.
I don't have full faith in Thomas as we sit here today. He seems average. Barely shoots, knows he has to shoot, can't make himself.
You do realize he's been banged up multiple times this season?
seattleblue wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 13:10 pm
To compete for a Cup outside of the fluke run hope scenario which is very rare, your cornerstones better be two high end centers, a true #1 defenseman and a playoff nails goalie. Then give me quality & depth everywhere else.
Said it many many times but Dvorsky is one of these needed pieces, he is one of the cornerstones we need at center. We have not seen in a Blues uniform yet what it's fully going to be, but it will emerge. There is too much depth to his ability and intention for it not to happen if he stays healthy.
Are you building around Thomas and Dvorsky?
We are sitting with uncomfortable ambiguity. I would build around the post-break Thomas last year, but not around the Thomas who showed up this year. It's also his prime. This is it.
I don't have full faith in Thomas as we sit here today. He seems average. Barely shoots, knows he has to shoot, can't make himself.
You do realize he's been banged up multiple times this season?
When is Thomas not injured? It took him 6 NHL seasons to play a full 82 games, then he played 70 last season and will not make 82 this season.
seattleblue wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 13:10 pm
To compete for a Cup outside of the fluke run hope scenario which is very rare, your cornerstones better be two high end centers, a true #1 defenseman and a playoff nails goalie. Then give me quality & depth everywhere else.
Said it many many times but Dvorsky is one of these needed pieces, he is one of the cornerstones we need at center. We have not seen in a Blues uniform yet what it's fully going to be, but it will emerge. There is too much depth to his ability and intention for it not to happen if he stays healthy.
Are you building around Thomas and Dvorsky?
We are sitting with uncomfortable ambiguity. I would build around the post-break Thomas last year, but not around the Thomas who showed up this year. It's also his prime. This is it.
I don't have full faith in Thomas as we sit here today. He seems average. Barely shoots, knows he has to shoot, can't make himself.
You do realize he's been banged up multiple times this season?
When is Thomas not injured? It took him 6 NHL seasons to play a full 82 games, then he played 70 last season and will not make 82 this season.
seattleblue wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 13:10 pm
To compete for a Cup outside of the fluke run hope scenario which is very rare, your cornerstones better be two high end centers, a true #1 defenseman and a playoff nails goalie. Then give me quality & depth everywhere else.
Said it many many times but Dvorsky is one of these needed pieces, he is one of the cornerstones we need at center. We have not seen in a Blues uniform yet what it's fully going to be, but it will emerge. There is too much depth to his ability and intention for it not to happen if he stays healthy.
Are you building around Thomas and Dvorsky?
We are sitting with uncomfortable ambiguity. I would build around the post-break Thomas last year, but not around the Thomas who showed up this year. It's also his prime. This is it.
I don't have full faith in Thomas as we sit here today. He seems average. Barely shoots, knows he has to shoot, can't make himself.
You do realize he's been banged up multiple times this season?
When is Thomas not injured? It took him 6 NHL seasons to play a full 82 games, then he played 70 last season and will not make 82 this season.
Projected durability is a factor, yes.
In four previous seasons:
Kyrou 317 games
Schenn 308
Parayko 305
The Thomas 297
When measured over 328 games, those numbers are a wash.
2,112 factors play into ability to play a game in that moment.
seattleblue wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 13:10 pm
To compete for a Cup outside of the fluke run hope scenario which is very rare, your cornerstones better be two high end centers, a true #1 defenseman and a playoff nails goalie. Then give me quality & depth everywhere else.
Said it many many times but Dvorsky is one of these needed pieces, he is one of the cornerstones we need at center. We have not seen in a Blues uniform yet what it's fully going to be, but it will emerge. There is too much depth to his ability and intention for it not to happen if he stays healthy.
Are you building around Thomas and Dvorsky?
We are sitting with uncomfortable ambiguity. I would build around the post-break Thomas last year, but not around the Thomas who showed up this year. It's also his prime. This is it.
I don't have full faith in Thomas as we sit here today. He seems average. Barely shoots, knows he has to shoot, can't make himself.
RT is, and always has been the guy I think they need to trade. Perpetually eye rolling missed opportunities, has had his heart questioned publicly, and does not elevate players around him.
He’s a very good player and a team that already has “the guy” — but still requires a little push over the top — would be foolish to not go all in and add him as a significant support piece.
seattleblue wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 13:10 pm
To compete for a Cup outside of the fluke run hope scenario which is very rare, your cornerstones better be two high end centers, a true #1 defenseman and a playoff nails goalie. Then give me quality & depth everywhere else.
Said it many many times but Dvorsky is one of these needed pieces, he is one of the cornerstones we need at center. We have not seen in a Blues uniform yet what it's fully going to be, but it will emerge. There is too much depth to his ability and intention for it not to happen if he stays healthy.
Are you building around Thomas and Dvorsky?
We are sitting with uncomfortable ambiguity. I would build around the post-break Thomas last year, but not around the Thomas who showed up this year. It's also his prime. This is it.
I don't have full faith in Thomas as we sit here today. He seems average. Barely shoots, knows he has to shoot, can't make himself.
You do realize he's been banged up multiple times this season?
When is Thomas not injured? It took him 6 NHL seasons to play a full 82 games, then he played 70 last season and will not make 82 this season.
+1 Thomas history shows he gets injured alot.
Plus what we have we seen so far wiith Holloway .
It looks like he will be another injury prone player.
seattleblue wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 13:10 pm
To compete for a Cup outside of the fluke run hope scenario which is very rare, your cornerstones better be two high end centers, a true #1 defenseman and a playoff nails goalie. Then give me quality & depth everywhere else.
Said it many many times but Dvorsky is one of these needed pieces, he is one of the cornerstones we need at center. We have not seen in a Blues uniform yet what it's fully going to be, but it will emerge. There is too much depth to his ability and intention for it not to happen if he stays healthy.
Are you building around Thomas and Dvorsky?
We are sitting with uncomfortable ambiguity. I would build around the post-break Thomas last year, but not around the Thomas who showed up this year. It's also his prime. This is it.
I don't have full faith in Thomas as we sit here today. He seems average. Barely shoots, knows he has to shoot, can't make himself.
You do realize he's been banged up multiple times this season?
You do realize that this season is an outlier given the compressed schedule due to the Olympics. Less time for recovery and load management. Nagging injuries don'd heal. It is not isolated to Thomas, or the Blues. It's league-wide.
As I have posted before, Thomas has averaged 74 games a year for the past four years and played all 82 games 2 years ago. Until this year, he only missed significant time in the Covid shortened season of 2020-20201. The typical NHL player averages 70-75 games a year. Thomas does not have a durability problem. Holloway on the other hand . . .
Atlantis17A wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:29 pm
As I have posted before, Thomas has averaged 74 games a year for the past four years and played all 82 games 2 years ago. Until this year, he only missed significant time in the Covid shortened season of 2020-20201. The typical NHL player averages 70-75 games a year. Thomas does not have a durability problem. Holloway on the other hand . . .
Yes, but the argument is that the reason he doesn't shoot and seems average is because he is playing hurt. So is he nearly always hurt, and therefore nearly always hampered and unable to be more than he is and shoot more than he does? His early career wrist injury and subsequent poor play could be cited as historical evidence.
Atlantis17A wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:29 pm
As I have posted before, Thomas has averaged 74 games a year for the past four years and played all 82 games 2 years ago. Until this year, he only missed significant time in the Covid shortened season of 2020-20201. The typical NHL player averages 70-75 games a year. Thomas does not have a durability problem. Holloway on the other hand . . .
Yes, but the argument is that the reason he doesn't shoot and seems average is because he is playing hurt. So is he nearly always hurt, and therefore nearly always hampered and unable to be more than he is and shoot more than he does? His early career wrist injury and subsequent poor play could be cited as historical evidence.
What?! You think the reason Thomas passes on too many scoring opportunities is because an early career wrist injury has made it painful for him to take a snap shot permanently. That one is waaaay out there.
Thomas isn’t getting traded unless he’s requested out for reasons we can’t see.
Atlantis17A wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:29 pm
As I have posted before, Thomas has averaged 74 games a year for the past four years and played all 82 games 2 years ago. Until this year, he only missed significant time in the Covid shortened season of 2020-20201. The typical NHL player averages 70-75 games a year. Thomas does not have a durability problem. Holloway on the other hand . . .
Yes, but the argument is that the reason he doesn't shoot and seems average is because he is playing hurt. So is he nearly always hurt, and therefore nearly always hampered and unable to be more than he is and shoot more than he does? His early career wrist injury and subsequent poor play could be cited as historical evidence.
What?! You think the reason Thomas passes on too many scoring opportunities is because an early career wrist injury has made it painful for him to take a snap shot permanently. That one is waaaay out there.
Thomas isn’t getting traded unless he’s requested out for reasons we can’t see.
Atlantis17A wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:29 pm
As I have posted before, Thomas has averaged 74 games a year for the past four years and played all 82 games 2 years ago. Until this year, he only missed significant time in the Covid shortened season of 2020-20201. The typical NHL player averages 70-75 games a year. Thomas does not have a durability problem. Holloway on the other hand . . .
Leads forwards in ATOI this year and the previous two; seasons before that, second to Buchnevich (by six seconds) and second to ROR.
Atlantis17A wrote: ↑14 Feb 2026 12:29 pm
As I have posted before, Thomas has averaged 74 games a year for the past four years and played all 82 games 2 years ago. Until this year, he only missed significant time in the Covid shortened season of 2020-20201. The typical NHL player averages 70-75 games a year. Thomas does not have a durability problem. Holloway on the other hand . . .
Leads forwards in ATOI this year and the previous two; seasons before that, second to Buchnevich (by six seconds) and second to ROR.
That average is based on games that he plays in. If i play 1 game and play 27 min. I average 27 minutes in the ganes i play in, not in 82 game season.
