Ivan Herrera runs into insurance 'roadblock,' says he'll miss WBC

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He belongs in Cardinals camp getting to know his pitchers if he's truly going to be given a shot at catching again.

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Really dislike the WBC, more risk than its worth... In the simplest argument...your employer and the team that will make you rich is the priority over some clown show exhibition

Before Lindor's injury, I think he had a similar situation, as many will. I applaud the teams and insurance saying if you get hurt we wont cover you and it will compromise your contract.

The WBC is garbage and should be trashed. MLB players should be in camp with the teams paying them big money. Not in some jingoistic nonsense of a competition. Herrera needs to be in camp for the duration.

[ScotchMIrish]

If I was an owner I'd put a clause causing a player to not get paid for time missed due to an injury in the WBC. That time missed should also not count as service time. If players want to participate they assume the risk.

You DO realize the WBC is sponsored by MLB, which, just happens to made up of said owners, don’t you? It’s a money maker for MLB.

The Mets lost their closer for the season in the WBC. I'd prefer not to see our players get injured and miss time with the Cardinals just so MLB can make an average of $3 million per team.

If they want to play in it with those stipulations in their contract then go ahead.

[Carp4Cy]

This bodes well for his intentions to be the primary catcher this season. I like the WBC and enjoy watching it, but Herrera is best served in camp, working with the pitchers and staying on track for a healthy start to the season.

Derrick Goold | Post-Dispatch

Insurance has become a “roadblock,” the Cardinals learned Thursday.

Herrera does not expect to leave Cardinals camp and compete for Team Panama in the WBC after it became difficult for him to secure the insurance necessary because of elbow surgery he had this past offseason.

“It’s just sad, a sad thing that I’m not able to help my country,” Herrera said Thursday afternoon. “I was really looking forward to it. There are so many things out of my control. I cannot do anything about the insurance. I tried to do everything I could to be there for the team. I fought hard.”

Cardinals Extra - D Goold | Post Dispatch

not much help for Panama, but we should just send Yadi to the WBC instead. He wouldn't be missing anything and is still a better C than some countries can produce.

[rage-STL]

This bodes well for his intentions to be the primary catcher this season. I like the WBC and enjoy watching it, but Herrera is best served in camp, working with the pitchers and staying on track for a healthy start to the season.

Derrick Goold | Post-Dispatch

Insurance has become a “roadblock,” the Cardinals learned Thursday.

Herrera does not expect to leave Cardinals camp and compete for Team Panama in the WBC after it became difficult for him to secure the insurance necessary because of elbow surgery he had this past offseason.

“It’s just sad, a sad thing that I’m not able to help my country,” Herrera said Thursday afternoon. “I was really looking forward to it. There are so many things out of my control. I cannot do anything about the insurance. I tried to do everything I could to be there for the team. I fought hard.”

Cardinals Extra - D Goold | Post Dispatch

not much help for Panama, but we should just send Yadi to the WBC instead. He wouldn't be missing anything and is still a better C than some countries can produce.

Yadi will be there! He’s managing the Puerto Rico squad.

[An Old Friend]

If I was an owner I'd put a clause causing a player to not get paid for time missed due to an injury in the WBC. That time missed should also not count as service time. If players want to participate they assume the risk.

I think that’s the entire point of the article and his not being able to get insurance.

Yeah, it's pretty clear that Scotch doesn't realize that these guys are not playing because their contracts are not guaranteed against injury in the WBC.

[imyourhuckleberry]

I want to catch.
I want to start.
I want to represent my country.
I want to play in WBC.

Sure is a lot of - I want.

"After a time you might find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."

-Spock

[45s]

This bodes well for his intentions to be the primary catcher this season. I like the WBC and enjoy watching it, but Herrera is best served in camp, working with the pitchers and staying on track for a healthy start to the season.

Derrick Goold | Post-Dispatch

Insurance has become a “roadblock,” the Cardinals learned Thursday.

Herrera does not expect to leave Cardinals camp and compete for Team Panama in the WBC after it became difficult for him to secure the insurance necessary because of elbow surgery he had this past offseason.

“It’s just sad, a sad thing that I’m not able to help my country,” Herrera said Thursday afternoon. “I was really looking forward to it. There are so many things out of my control. I cannot do anything about the insurance. I tried to do everything I could to be there for the team. I fought hard.”

Cardinals Extra - D Goold | Post Dispatch

not much help for Panama, but we should just send Yadi to the WBC instead. He wouldn't be missing anything and is still a better C than some countries can produce.

Yadi will be there! He’s managing the Puerto Rico squad.

I thought molina was special assistant to bloom…..shouldn’t he be in cards camp assisting?

[imyourhuckleberry]

This bodes well for his intentions to be the primary catcher this season. I like the WBC and enjoy watching it, but Herrera is best served in camp, working with the pitchers and staying on track for a healthy start to the season.

Derrick Goold | Post-Dispatch

Insurance has become a “roadblock,” the Cardinals learned Thursday.

Herrera does not expect to leave Cardinals camp and compete for Team Panama in the WBC after it became difficult for him to secure the insurance necessary because of elbow surgery he had this past offseason.

“It’s just sad, a sad thing that I’m not able to help my country,” Herrera said Thursday afternoon. “I was really looking forward to it. There are so many things out of my control. I cannot do anything about the insurance. I tried to do everything I could to be there for the team. I fought hard.”

Cardinals Extra - D Goold | Post Dispatch

not much help for Panama, but we should just send Yadi to the WBC instead. He wouldn't be missing anything and is still a better C than some countries can produce.

Yadi will be there! He’s managing the Puerto Rico squad.

I thought molina was special assistant to bloom…..shouldn’t he be in cards camp assisting?

Candy, you are nothing if not utterly predictable.

[45s]

This bodes well for his intentions to be the primary catcher this season. I like the WBC and enjoy watching it, but Herrera is best served in camp, working with the pitchers and staying on track for a healthy start to the season.

Derrick Goold | Post-Dispatch

Insurance has become a “roadblock,” the Cardinals learned Thursday.

Herrera does not expect to leave Cardinals camp and compete for Team Panama in the WBC after it became difficult for him to secure the insurance necessary because of elbow surgery he had this past offseason.

“It’s just sad, a sad thing that I’m not able to help my country,” Herrera said Thursday afternoon. “I was really looking forward to it. There are so many things out of my control. I cannot do anything about the insurance. I tried to do everything I could to be there for the team. I fought hard.”

Cardinals Extra - D Goold | Post Dispatch

not much help for Panama, but we should just send Yadi to the WBC instead. He wouldn't be missing anything and is still a better C than some countries can produce.

Yadi will be there! He’s managing the Puerto Rico squad.

I thought molina was special assistant to bloom…..shouldn’t he be in cards camp assisting?

Candy, you are nothing if not utterly predictable.

That’s not an answer

So do know why molina is not in the cards camp?

[imyourhuckleberry]

This bodes well for his intentions to be the primary catcher this season. I like the WBC and enjoy watching it, but Herrera is best served in camp, working with the pitchers and staying on track for a healthy start to the season.

Derrick Goold | Post-Dispatch

Insurance has become a “roadblock,” the Cardinals learned Thursday.

Herrera does not expect to leave Cardinals camp and compete for Team Panama in the WBC after it became difficult for him to secure the insurance necessary because of elbow surgery he had this past offseason.

“It’s just sad, a sad thing that I’m not able to help my country,” Herrera said Thursday afternoon. “I was really looking forward to it. There are so many things out of my control. I cannot do anything about the insurance. I tried to do everything I could to be there for the team. I fought hard.”

Cardinals Extra - D Goold | Post Dispatch

not much help for Panama, but we should just send Yadi to the WBC instead. He wouldn't be missing anything and is still a better C than some countries can produce.

Yadi will be there! He’s managing the Puerto Rico squad.

I thought molina was special assistant to bloom…..shouldn’t he be in cards camp assisting?

Candy, you are nothing if not utterly predictable.

That’s not an answer

So do know why molina is not in the cards camp?

Yes. He's not in camp because he's managing Puerto Rico in the WBC. I thought that was made pretty clear earlier in the thread. Is there a reason the Cardinals should not allow this?

And you're still utterly predictable.

[45s]

This bodes well for his intentions to be the primary catcher this season. I like the WBC and enjoy watching it, but Herrera is best served in camp, working with the pitchers and staying on track for a healthy start to the season.

Derrick Goold | Post-Dispatch

Insurance has become a “roadblock,” the Cardinals learned Thursday.

Herrera does not expect to leave Cardinals camp and compete for Team Panama in the WBC after it became difficult for him to secure the insurance necessary because of elbow surgery he had this past offseason.

“It’s just sad, a sad thing that I’m not able to help my country,” Herrera said Thursday afternoon. “I was really looking forward to it. There are so many things out of my control. I cannot do anything about the insurance. I tried to do everything I could to be there for the team. I fought hard.”

Cardinals Extra - D Goold | Post Dispatch

not much help for Panama, but we should just send Yadi to the WBC instead. He wouldn't be missing anything and is still a better C than some countries can produce.

Yadi will be there! He’s managing the Puerto Rico squad.

I thought molina was special assistant to bloom…..shouldn’t he be in cards camp assisting?

Candy, you are nothing if not utterly predictable.

That’s not an answer

So do know why molina is not in the cards camp?

Yes. He's not in camp because he's managing Puerto Rico in the WBC. I thought that was made pretty clear earlier in the thread. Is there a reason the Cardinals should not allow this?

And you're still utterly predictable.

Please review this thread…

Two pages of why the cards should not participate in the wbc

It’s horrible….should be canceled…it’s a money grab by the owners..

Yet…the Special Assistant to the POBO is participating and you seem to think that is ok …

Well, which is it….?

WBC is bad…..?

or

WBC is ok because molina has once again abandoned the cards to be with Puerto Rico…

Can’t make this stuff up..

[Wattage]

If I was an owner I'd put a clause causing a player to not get paid for time missed due to an injury in the WBC. That time missed should also not count as service time. If players want to participate they assume the risk.

youre just as likely to get hurt in spring training though. youre still playing the same game baseball that you akways do. i dont understamd why peopme think that suddenly playing it for a national team ups the injury risk 1000%

[alw80]

If I was an owner I'd put a clause causing a player to not get paid for time missed due to an injury in the WBC. That time missed should also not count as service time. If players want to participate they assume the risk.

You DO realize the WBC is sponsored by MLB, which, just happens to made up of said owners, don’t you? It’s a money maker for MLB.

He loves owners, hates players. Lot of baseball fans just like him.

[imyourhuckleberry]

This bodes well for his intentions to be the primary catcher this season. I like the WBC and enjoy watching it, but Herrera is best served in camp, working with the pitchers and staying on track for a healthy start to the season.

Derrick Goold | Post-Dispatch

Insurance has become a “roadblock,” the Cardinals learned Thursday.

Herrera does not expect to leave Cardinals camp and compete for Team Panama in the WBC after it became difficult for him to secure the insurance necessary because of elbow surgery he had this past offseason.

“It’s just sad, a sad thing that I’m not able to help my country,” Herrera said Thursday afternoon. “I was really looking forward to it. There are so many things out of my control. I cannot do anything about the insurance. I tried to do everything I could to be there for the team. I fought hard.”

Cardinals Extra - D Goold | Post Dispatch

not much help for Panama, but we should just send Yadi to the WBC instead. He wouldn't be missing anything and is still a better C than some countries can produce.

Yadi will be there! He’s managing the Puerto Rico squad.

I thought molina was special assistant to bloom…..shouldn’t he be in cards camp assisting?

Candy, you are nothing if not utterly predictable.

That’s not an answer

So do know why molina is not in the cards camp?

Yes. He's not in camp because he's managing Puerto Rico in the WBC. I thought that was made pretty clear earlier in the thread. Is there a reason the Cardinals should not allow this?

And you're still utterly predictable.

Please review this thread…

Two pages of why the cards should not participate in the wbc

It’s horrible….should be canceled…it’s a money grab by the owners..

Yet…the Special Assistant to the POBO is participating and you seem to think that is ok …

Well, which is it….?

WBC is bad…..?

or

WBC is ok because molina has once again abandoned the cards to be with Puerto Rico…

Can’t make this stuff up..

I never made a judgement either way on the WBC.

There is a difference between the risk of player participation in the WBC and the risk of front office personnel participation in the WBC. I expect you know this. But I also expect, especially in this particular case, you'll conveniently ignore that difference

Would I be disappointed if a Cardinal player got hurt playing in the WBC? Sure. Would I be disappointed if a member of the Cardinal's front office got hurt participating in the WBC? Not particularly.

Your Astros have two coaches, Omar Lopez (Bench Coach): Managing Team Venezuela and Tony Perezchica (Third Base Coach): Coaching Team Mexico. I assume you have the same problem with the Astros coaches as you do Molina, right? I mean, I would argue it's more important for those two, as coaches, to be in Astros camp than Molina, as special assistant (or whatever his title is) to be in Cards camp. But, MLB allows it and the Astros (and Cards) are okay with it, so what's the problem?

And you're still utterly predictable.

[ScotchMIrish]

If I was an owner I'd put a clause causing a player to not get paid for time missed due to an injury in the WBC. That time missed should also not count as service time. If players want to participate they assume the risk.

youre just as likely to get hurt in spring training though. youre still playing the same game baseball that you akways do. i dont understamd why peopme think that suddenly playing it for a national team ups the injury risk 1000%

Mets closer missed a season because of WBC. Where did you come up with 1000%?

[Red7]

If I was an owner I'd put a clause causing a player to not get paid for time missed due to an injury in the WBC. That time missed should also not count as service time. If players want to participate they assume the risk.

You DO realize the WBC is sponsored by MLB, which, just happens to made up of said owners, don’t you? It’s a money maker for MLB.

The Mets lost their closer for the season in the WBC. I'd prefer not to see our players get injured and miss time with the Cardinals just so MLB can make an average of $3 million per team.

If they want to play in it with those stipulations in their contract then go ahead.

Neither the owners or MLBPA would allow such clauses. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of the WBC for the very reasons you suggest. They’re no less exhibitions than the All-Star Game, yet the owners are willing to risk injuries and the disruption of spring training.