The Binnington effect on our Trade Bait

[a smell of green grass]

The heat is turning up. Canadiens are very worried about their goalie situation.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/702408 ... -thompson/

What is Binnington's excuse? The defense in front of Binnington is bad. It's not his fault. In other words, blame it on St Louis's trade bait, Parayko and Faulk. Or blame it on the forwards that don't play enough Defense, Thomas, Kyrou and Buchnevich. And 100% forget, trading for Binnington.

With all the negative press that the Blues are getting, why would any GM risk acquiring one of our players? Without a doubt, this negative 24x7 publicity is going to drive down the value that we receive in return for our trade bait.

Great move, Army. Great move.

[Nublues69]

are you going to be quiet when binnington tears it up

[Cahokanut]

The heat is turning up. Canadiens are very worried about their goalie situation.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/702408 ... -thompson/

What is Binnington's excuse? The defense in front of Binnington is bad. It's not his fault. In other words, blame it on St Louis's trade bait, Parayko and Faulk. Or blame it on the forwards that don't play enough Defense, Thomas, Kyrou and Buchnevich. And 100% forget, trading for Binnington.

With all the negative press that the Blues are getting, why would any GM risk acquiring one of our players? Without a doubt, this negative 24x7 publicity is going to drive down the value that we receive in return for our trade bait.

Great move, Army. Great move.

If this was a thing. There would be no trade deadline.

Anything that "preforms" comes with two things.

Someone selling you on what 'it, can do, and what it does when working in the situation, 'it's, needed to work in.

With Binny. You are not getting what he has done in January.
Your relying on the what he can do in the May.

[a smell of green grass]

are you going to be quiet when binnington tears it up

My point is not that Binnington will do well or do poorly. My point is that the discussion of Binnington inevitably throws our trade bait under the bus.

I'll be quiet WHEN we have a PROFITABLE SALE OF OUR TRADE BAIT. I'm skeptical because Army took some steps to SELL in Feb 2025, before the win streak, and from that initial small effort, Army told Blues Fans "I guess we (Blues) values our players more than the rest of the league does". Since Mar 2025, has the value of our players gone UP or DOWN?

Anything that we can do to PROP OUR PLAYERS UP is what we should be doing, not blaming the lot of them for our goalie's poor statistics.

[a smell of green grass]

The heat is turning up. Canadiens are very worried about their goalie situation.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/702408 ... -thompson/

What is Binnington's excuse? The defense in front of Binnington is bad. It's not his fault. In other words, blame it on St Louis's trade bait, Parayko and Faulk. Or blame it on the forwards that don't play enough Defense, Thomas, Kyrou and Buchnevich. And 100% forget, trading for Binnington.

With all the negative press that the Blues are getting, why would any GM risk acquiring one of our players? Without a doubt, this negative 24x7 publicity is going to drive down the value that we receive in return for our trade bait.

Great move, Army. Great move.

If this was a thing. There would be no trade deadline.

Anything that "preforms" comes with two things.

Someone selling you on what 'it, can do, and what it does when working in the situation, 'it's, needed to work in.

With Binny. You are not getting what he has done in January.
Your relying on the what he can do in the May.

All understood, and I agree.

However, my concern is the desirability of our trade bait.

Do you think it hurts the trade value of Parayko and Faulk when some say that Binnington's problem is the Blues defense?

[Hooking]

Good lord.
Now you all are blaming the goalie for potential trades not involving said goalie being affected?

I know Blues fans have a VERY LONG history of blaming the goalie for everything wrong with the team but this is a new one.

[Jeff Goldblum]

are you going to be quiet when binnington tears it up

You know the answer to that.

[a smell of green grass]

Good lord.
Now you all are blaming the goalie for potential trades not involving said goalie being affected?

I know Blues fans have a VERY LONG history of blaming the goalie for everything wrong with the team but this is a new one.

We shall see what value we get in return for the players that we sell. Then, let's talk.

[Bubble4427]

Good lord.
Now you all are blaming the goalie for potential trades not involving said goalie being affected?

I know Blues fans have a VERY LONG history of blaming the goalie for everything wrong with the team but this is a new one.

We shall see what value we get in return for the players that we sell. Then, let's talk.

What value SHOULD the Blues get back for players you want gone?
Not what you think they will get back, but what you believe would be a good deal for the Blues? I'm asking your honest opinion before the deals are made...otherwise, no matter what the deal is, you will say we never got fair value.

Schenn?
Faulk?
Binner?
Thomas?
Kyrou?

[Hooking]

Good lord.
Now you all are blaming the goalie for potential trades not involving said goalie being affected?

I know Blues fans have a VERY LONG history of blaming the goalie for everything wrong with the team but this is a new one.

We shall see what value we get in return for the players that we sell. Then, let's talk.

No matter what, if the trade doesn't involve the goalie the deal happens between the two GM's. You cannot twist that into blaming the goalie. Insane.

[a smell of green grass]

Good lord.
Now you all are blaming the goalie for potential trades not involving said goalie being affected?

I know Blues fans have a VERY LONG history of blaming the goalie for everything wrong with the team but this is a new one.

We shall see what value we get in return for the players that we sell. Then, let's talk.

No matter what, if the trade doesn't involve the goalie the deal happens between the two GM's. You cannot twist that into blaming the goalie. Insane.

I never blamed Binnington. Only a few would read my comments that way.

I'm curious. If the Blues get little to no value for their players, who would you blame?

[a smell of green grass]

Good lord.
Now you all are blaming the goalie for potential trades not involving said goalie being affected?

I know Blues fans have a VERY LONG history of blaming the goalie for everything wrong with the team but this is a new one.

We shall see what value we get in return for the players that we sell. Then, let's talk.

What value SHOULD the Blues get back for players you want gone?
Not what you think they will get back, but what you believe would be a good deal for the Blues? I'm asking your honest opinion before the deals are made...otherwise, no matter what the deal is, you will say we never got fair value.

Schenn?
Faulk?
Binner?
Thomas?
Kyrou?

You answer that question first, and I'll do the same. And then let's see who is satisfied vs not-satisfied.

[Blues Dave]

Binny gets 5-0 shutout for Canada.

[a smell of green grass]

Good lord.
Now you all are blaming the goalie for potential trades not involving said goalie being affected?

I know Blues fans have a VERY LONG history of blaming the goalie for everything wrong with the team but this is a new one.

We shall see what value we get in return for the players that we sell. Then, let's talk.

What value SHOULD the Blues get back for players you want gone?
Not what you think they will get back, but what you believe would be a good deal for the Blues? I'm asking your honest opinion before the deals are made...otherwise, no matter what the deal is, you will say we never got fair value.

Schenn?
Faulk?
Binner?
Thomas?
Kyrou?

You answer that question first, and I'll do the same. And then let's see who is satisfied vs not-satisfied.

I'll go first, because you are slow.

Given their history and current year record, this is what I would expect for each player in isolation.

Schenn? Potential Middle 6 prospect + high 2nd-Rounder
Faulk? Potential Top4 RHD prospect + low 1st-Rounder
Binner? Potential goalie 1A prospect + 2nd-Rounder
Thomas? Potential Line1 22-24 age prospect + mid 1st-Rounder + 2nd-Rounder
Kyrou? Potential TOP 6 22-24 age prospect + mid 1st-Rounder + 2nd-Rounder

However, this is what really matters in the end.
Essentially, I expect Army to pull a ROR<=>Tage Thompson deal in reverse for Thomas and Kyrou and Faulk. Anything less than that is a big fail. Getting 6 bodies is not going to make me happy. I want at least 1 "Tage Thompson" talent out of it for each of those guys.

Or putting it another way....
I DON'T WANT Barbashev for 6 Deans.
I DON'T WANT to have to search Wikipedia to remember who we got for our best players.

[Pierre McGuire]

Easily worth a first and a legit prospect with that showing

[Bubble4427]

Easily worth a first and a legit prospect with that showing

Who?