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A Reminder What This Team Can Be

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2025-26 season is just not a good year. Bad goalie play to start the year. Followed up by a goal drought that can't be understated. Then the injuries came forth. The most injured forward group in the league. This is a reminder that there is talent on this team, and it's gotten younger to boot. Hopefully the Olympic reset is good for the boys mental health. And hopefully our decision makers can move the right pieces.

Broberg extended his contract. Hopefully we can get another good extension at cost with Hollywood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcTYUg1V5so

Cheers Boys!
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Thanks brother, that completely lifted me up. We had those guys on the ropes. I hate being a hockey fan when the only thing to look forward to is the business side of things.
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hockey jedi wrote: 10 Feb 2026 22:20 pm Thanks brother, that completely lifted me up. We had those guys on the ropes. I hate being a hockey fan when the only thing to look forward to is the business side of things.
for sure, and it's not just going to magically get better. But for anyone saying these guys can't play, its recency bias. They were styling on the Jets for the majority of that series. They looked like they better team and if you replayed that series 10 times, they probably win 8. They just so happened to have that one fatal flaw.

Anyways, I expect a few guys to be moved out after the olympics, and some kind of shakeup to the core. The only question mark is what that is, It keeps leaning towards Kyrou, although if Kyrou Buchy Neighbours become a thing, I don't see why that happens. To me it seems like it's trending more and more towards, Joseph/Walks/Suter/Sunny. Reason I put in Walks and Sunny is the additional young 4th line center. Torpedo was extended. Monty said he's a guy that has good vibes every day and works hard. That is supposed to be Walker and Sunny's role. Walker has taken a pivot on the ice where he has been sloppy with penalties. We know Sunny has that in his game too. You can't have vibe guys unless they are perfect in execution. Torpedo at least provides PK ability and speed/size.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 10 Feb 2026 21:30 pm 2025-26 season is just not a good year. Bad goalie play to start the year. Followed up by a goal drought that can't be understated. Then the injuries came forth. The most injured forward group in the league. This is a reminder that there is talent on this team, and it's gotten younger to boot. Hopefully the Olympic reset is good for the boys mental health. And hopefully our decision makers can move the right pieces.

Broberg extended his contract. Hopefully we can get another good extension at cost with Hollywood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcTYUg1V5so

Cheers Boys!
My thoughts exactly. For a team that is second to last in the league it certainly hasn't felt that bad. For those of us that paid attention in mid 2000's you know what an organization with a complete lack of talent is. This is not that. There is plenty of talent on the main club. There is a new wave of talent in the minors. We'll end up with a top 5 pick this year. Even if you don't trade away a couple of player, you need to fill in a few gaps to be a dominant team. This reminds me of the 98 rams that went 4 -12. They upgraded in the right places and drastically changed the narrative.
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Holloway Thomas Snuggerud
Buch Dvorsky Kyrou
Neighbours Suter Stenberg
Berggren Finley Toropchenko/Schenn


im ready to move on to better younger more exciting players
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Unfortunately this year is a loss. Take advantage of your good draft position. At least move out kyrou for another potentially 1st rounder. Hope the young players make progress. They look really good for being rookies.
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I'm guessing conventional wisdom will be having these end of season/TDL decisions still be made foremost by DA but I do wonder if he will let Steens thoughts and preferences take precedence.

Also, has the course been set already? No matter post Olympics?
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dhsux wrote: 11 Feb 2026 10:25 am I'm guessing conventional wisdom will be having these end of season/TDL decisions still be made foremost by DA but I do wonder if he will let Steens thoughts and preferences take precedence.

Also, has the course been set already? No matter post Olympics?
I think any player personnel decisions are made by Army/Steen/co. as a group
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I do not care if moving Kyrou for something decent- a 20-25 goal scoring forward who shows up for more than a third of a season, and is tough whenever a gadoammmed playoff series is on the line- might haunt us. Kyrou has shown flashes of playing as if he really cares about the team winning games.... but he has always let me down.
Trade him asap, before the clock strikes midnight for the third or fourth time
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The two biggest moves the team could make would be to get Thomas and Holloway back healthy. I'm not discounting the potential value of other moves.
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Jeff Goldblum wrote: 11 Feb 2026 10:17 am Unfortunately this year is a loss. Take advantage of your good draft position. At least move out kyrou for another potentially 1st rounder. Hope the young players make progress. They look really good for being rookies.
I don't know if this is what you were saying so if I'm interpreting it wrong I apologize, but trading Kyrou for a 1st rounder is a complete and utter waste of an asset. the odds of that first rounder being a top 10 pick are minuscule so it likely would be a late 1st rounder. If you are trading a cost controlled 30 goal near a ppg forward you have to get a player close to equal value back plus the 1st rounder.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 11 Feb 2026 11:11 am I do not care if moving Kyrou for something decent- a 20-25 goal scoring forward who shows up for more than a third of a season, and is tough whenever a gadoammmed playoff series is on the line- might haunt us. Kyrou has shown flashes of playing as if he really cares about the team winning games.... but he has always let me down.
Trade him asap, before the clock strikes midnight for the third or fourth time
The Blues need a pretty significant piece/package coming back for Kyrou and Kyrou has to agree to go to whomever wants him. I would love a package of MBN+ from Detroit because that kid looks like a beast in the making and along with Carbonneau and Snuggerud the Blues could have a generational RH forward side.
As much fun as Olympic hockey is the week or so after, before the TDL is going to great tv
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TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Feb 2026 11:42 am
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 11 Feb 2026 10:17 am Unfortunately this year is a loss. Take advantage of your good draft position. At least move out kyrou for another potentially 1st rounder. Hope the young players make progress. They look really good for being rookies.
I don't know if this is what you were saying so if I'm interpreting it wrong I apologize, but trading Kyrou for a 1st rounder is a complete and utter waste of an asset. the odds of that first rounder being a top 10 pick are minuscule so it likely would be a late 1st rounder. If you are trading a cost controlled 30 goal near a ppg forward you have to get a player close to equal value back plus the 1st rounder.
Nobody is trading a close to Kyrou value player back and paying a late 1st rounder just for the privilege - the whole League has seen Kyrou's disappearing act and earlier benching. As much as we can say "just keep him then" if the offers aren't good enough, do we really want a sulking Kyrou next year?

I'm not quite in the "addition by subtraction" camp, but IMHO you do need to shake up this core by trading an underachieving member of the big 3. Thomas is the only one you shouldn't trade. Buchnevich is the one you probably can't trade. That leaves Kyrou.

A first and a decent prospect is okay value for where we picked Kyrou.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Feb 2026 11:42 am
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 11 Feb 2026 10:17 am Unfortunately this year is a loss. Take advantage of your good draft position. At least move out kyrou for another potentially 1st rounder. Hope the young players make progress. They look really good for being rookies.
I don't know if this is what you were saying so if I'm interpreting it wrong I apologize, but trading Kyrou for a 1st rounder is a complete and utter waste of an asset. the odds of that first rounder being a top 10 pick are minuscule so it likely would be a late 1st rounder. If you are trading a cost controlled 30 goal near a ppg forward you have to get a player close to equal value back plus the 1st rounder.
Yea no way Army is taking back a 1st rounder alone maybe if its Vancouver on draft day or something wild like that to get McKenna/Stenberg but Army/Steen will want a corresponding package coming back for a 30 goal guy
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TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Feb 2026 11:42 am
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 11 Feb 2026 10:17 am Unfortunately this year is a loss. Take advantage of your good draft position. At least move out kyrou for another potentially 1st rounder. Hope the young players make progress. They look really good for being rookies.
I don't know if this is what you were saying so if I'm interpreting it wrong I apologize, but trading Kyrou for a 1st rounder is a complete and utter waste of an asset. the odds of that first rounder being a top 10 pick are minuscule so it likely would be a late 1st rounder. If you are trading a cost controlled 30 goal near a ppg forward you have to get a player close to equal value back plus the 1st rounder.
This is the part that is concerning with Kyrou trade. He's not an asset you can just dump for a 1st rounder. At his contract, his prior production values closer to 10m. His inconsistency puts him more around 7m as a Blues player. But any trade for a 1st rounder is just a wasted trade because all you are trying to do is find another goal scorer and at his production is going to cost you more than 8m. The best you can do in that situation is push kyrou into a line that "makes less meaningful impact." It's actually why the Neighbours/Buchy/Kyrou line is so intriguing. They are playing like 2nd/1st liners, but you could theoretically treat them like a 3rd line that only plays in positive matchups. yes, that is one expensive 3rd line. But if you can actually construct a 1st line which I think you can with Snuggy/Thomas/Hollywood. You can say your "2nd line" is more a defensive minded line that gets more minutes than your 3rd, but maybe not the ozone starts. There's definitely a world to do that.

NOW, I don't know how long I would commit to something like that. I Think theoretically doing something like that with Stenberg/Dvo/Schenn wouldn't be a terrible idea. Let those guys attempt to play the game the right way for a season. Then split them up and make them into a real line the next. But, that's a lot of pressure for 2 young guns if you give them a whole lot of defensive or mid ice responsibility.
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Well, he was drafted in the second round so a 1st is a net+. Especially considering that he is basically just a body on the ice.
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