A Generous Gift for the Tigers

[acco40]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

Not just college but secondary education too. I was never a fan of high school courses in shop, personal finance, home economics, etc. for myself. Why? Because I can learn those skills via other venues quite easily. But hey, I have no objection for those courses to be offered.

[winonsports]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

The irony is palpable. Twice in this thread 11WS demonstrating he could benefit from a 3 credit hour course focused on developing skill in critical analysis of text.

Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

It's never hard to tell on this forum who went to Linn Tech and who went to Mizzou.

[Sophrosyne]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

Agree, and I think universities can do both. Mizzou can provide an extremely valuable education. I felt well-prepared entering the workforce. And, some of the softer skills developed over time, including during the Mizzou education, were invaluable dealing with the Ivy-leaguers on Wall Street during the inevitable intellectual jousting. I can't say enough about that Mizzou education, and in gratitude I continue to provide financial support to several Schools within the University.

[11WSChamps]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

The irony is palpable. Twice in this thread 11WS demonstrating he could benefit from a 3 credit hour course focused on developing skill in critical analysis of text.

Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

It's never hard to tell on this forum who went to Linn Tech and who went to Mizzou.

So you went to Linn Tech. Good for you.

[winonsports]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

The irony is palpable. Twice in this thread 11WS demonstrating he could benefit from a 3 credit hour course focused on developing skill in critical analysis of text.

Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

It's never hard to tell on this forum who went to Linn Tech and who went to Mizzou.

So you went to Linn Tech. Good for you.

No, I went to Mizzou and received the best degree they offer.

Linn Tech is just a random example that correlates to the discussion you tried to create to put a negative spin on the positive news coming out of Columbia.

[11WSChamps]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

The irony is palpable. Twice in this thread 11WS demonstrating he could benefit from a 3 credit hour course focused on developing skill in critical analysis of text.

Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

It's never hard to tell on this forum who went to Linn Tech and who went to Mizzou.

So you went to Linn Tech. Good for you.

No, I went to Mizzou and received the best degree they offer.

Linn Tech is just a random example that correlates to the discussion you tried to create to put a negative spin on the positive news coming out of Columbia.

Another lie.

I didn't put a negative spin on anything.

You did by just being here criticizing other people for making a choice suitable for them.

You're a product of indoctrination and no accountability and you wallow in the ignorance of it.

[winonsports]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

The irony is palpable. Twice in this thread 11WS demonstrating he could benefit from a 3 credit hour course focused on developing skill in critical analysis of text.

Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

It's never hard to tell on this forum who went to Linn Tech and who went to Mizzou.

So you went to Linn Tech. Good for you.

No, I went to Mizzou and received the best degree they offer.

Linn Tech is just a random example that correlates to the discussion you tried to create to put a negative spin on the positive news coming out of Columbia.

Another lie.

I didn't put a negative spin on anything.

You did by just being here criticizing other people for making a choice suitable for them.

You're a product of indoctrination and no accountability and you wallow in the ignorance of it.

Yes you did.

The truth is in bloated administrative staff, etc and who's administering student loans has made universities a cottage industry.

Making students take up to sometimes 60 hours of credits that have very little to do with a major area of study is ludicrous. It bloats the cost and cost everybody money.

They are no longer serving students best interests they are serving themselves.

[11WSChamps]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

The irony is palpable. Twice in this thread 11WS demonstrating he could benefit from a 3 credit hour course focused on developing skill in critical analysis of text.

Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

It's never hard to tell on this forum who went to Linn Tech and who went to Mizzou.

So you went to Linn Tech. Good for you.

No, I went to Mizzou and received the best degree they offer.

Linn Tech is just a random example that correlates to the discussion you tried to create to put a negative spin on the positive news coming out of Columbia.

Another lie.

I didn't put a negative spin on anything.

You did by just being here criticizing other people for making a choice suitable for them.

You're a product of indoctrination and no accountability and you wallow in the ignorance of it.

Yes you did.

The truth is in bloated administrative staff, etc and who's administering student loans has made universities a cottage industry.

Making students take up to sometimes 60 hours of credits that have very little to do with a major area of study is ludicrous. It bloats the cost and cost everybody money.

They are no longer serving students best interests they are serving themselves.

I didn't spin anything.

Those are facts.

Use that stellar education of yours and do some research.

So you think you're better than people in the trades.

Always knew you were an entitled (buzz) with no guts.

[3-2 Fastball]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

The irony is palpable. Twice in this thread 11WS demonstrating he could benefit from a 3 credit hour course focused on developing skill in critical analysis of text.

Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

It's never hard to tell on this forum who went to Linn Tech and who went to Mizzou.

I disagree with your conclusion and I don't want to be quoted as if what I said supports it.
I have not and will not dismiss trade school training as inferior.

I even agree with 11WS that the school of life is sometimes where we learn the most important lessons of critical thinking and common sense.

My comments were a response to a poster's comment that credit hour requirements were an explanation for higher college costs in recent years when those credit hour requirements have been unchanged for over a century.

To me, that argument lacks reason but my comments should not be used as supposed support for an opinion I don't hold.

[Sophrosyne]

It's the age-old question: Is a college education to prepare the student for a job with specialized skills for career advancement and higher earning potential, or is the goal to produce a broadly educated graduate, a well-rounded problem solver, an intellectually mature critical thinker? It is the differentiation between a trade-school approach and a classical liberal (not politically Liberal) education.

The irony is palpable. Twice in this thread 11WS demonstrating he could benefit from a 3 credit hour course focused on developing skill in critical analysis of text.

Sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

It's never hard to tell on this forum who went to Linn Tech and who went to Mizzou.

I disagree with your conclusion and I don't want to be quoted as if what I said supports it.
I have not and will not dismiss trade school training as inferior.

I even agree with 11WS that the school of life is sometimes where we learn the most important lessons of critical thinking and common sense.

My comments were a response to a poster's comment that credit hour requirements were an explanation for higher college costs in recent years when those credit hour requirements have been unchanged for over a century.

To me, that argument lacks reason but my comments should not be used as supposed support for an opinion I don't hold.

Agree - tech schools are important and the trades are important. It's all important.