The Last 8

[straight out of st louis robert ave]

Well will they or won't they?

Lots of talk how they need 10 wins to get in and likely 1 tournament win as well.

This team is not easy to predict.....I'm still waiting for their best basketball....as seen below with three ranked wins and a home game sweep....here's how I pick 'em:

A&M (R) L
Texas W
Vandy W
AR (R) L
Tenn W
MS (R) W
OK(R) L
AR W

dhsux,
Good choices for remaining 8 games.
I am actually hoping Mizzou knocks off Texas A&M.
Florida killed A&M on Saturday and this Chicago kid, Rashaun Agee looked bad.
Agee is the centerpiece of A&Ms offense and he looks vulnerable.
Well, Mizzou beat Florida and we are certainly capable of beating A&M.
Stop Agee and we can win this game.
I CAN DREAM!

[dhsux]

Well will they or won't they?

Lots of talk how they need 10 wins to get in and likely 1 tournament win as well.

This team is not easy to predict.....I'm still waiting for their best basketball....as seen below with three ranked wins and a home game sweep....here's how I pick 'em:

A&M (R) L
Texas W
Vandy W
AR (R) L
Tenn W
MS (R) W
OK(R) L
AR W

dhsux,
Good choices for remaining 8 games.
I am actually hoping Mizzou knocks off Texas A&M.
Florida killed A&M on Saturday and this Chicago kid, Rashaun Agee looked bad.
Agee is the centerpiece of A&Ms offense and he looks vulnerable.
Well, Mizzou beat Florida and we are certainly capable of beating A&M.
Stop Agee and we can win this game.
I CAN DREAM!

That would be a great win and start for the stretch run. Any road game win is huge!

Tigers need more of that Florida game play right now!

[winonsports]

Let me clear this up (pardon the contortion of English). We win 4 more, we are in with a 10-8 conference record. If we end up 9-9, I don't think we get in, even with some wins in the SEC tourny. Wins in the SEC tourny mean little.

They mean the same as the regular season.

No, actually they don't. A 10-8 conference record gets you into the NCAA tournament. An 8-10 or 9-9 record, even if you throw on a couple of SEC tournament wins, likely doesn't get you into the NCAA field.

You're going to have to provide some evidence of "likely", because the math doesn't agree with you.

If you are winning games that others you are competing with for a bid aren't playing, then you can only improve your standing.

[Sophrosyne]

Let me clear this up (pardon the contortion of English). We win 4 more, we are in with a 10-8 conference record. If we end up 9-9, I don't think we get in, even with some wins in the SEC tourny. Wins in the SEC tourny mean little.

They mean the same as the regular season.

No, actually they don't. A 10-8 conference record gets you into the NCAA tournament. An 8-10 or 9-9 record, even if you throw on a couple of SEC tournament wins, likely doesn't get you into the NCAA field.

You're going to have to provide some evidence of "likely", because the math doesn't agree with you.

If you are winning games that others you are competing with for a bid aren't playing, then you can only improve your standing.

I was reacting to your comment that the SEC tournament games mean the same as the results from the regular season SEC schedule, which I don't think is accurate for the reasons I noted. I guess we can weigh in after the NCAA tournament selection in a few weeks.

[winonsports]

Let me clear this up (pardon the contortion of English). We win 4 more, we are in with a 10-8 conference record. If we end up 9-9, I don't think we get in, even with some wins in the SEC tourny. Wins in the SEC tourny mean little.

They mean the same as the regular season.

No, actually they don't. A 10-8 conference record gets you into the NCAA tournament. An 8-10 or 9-9 record, even if you throw on a couple of SEC tournament wins, likely doesn't get you into the NCAA field.

You're going to have to provide some evidence of "likely", because the math doesn't agree with you.

If you are winning games that others you are competing with for a bid aren't playing, then you can only improve your standing.

I was reacting to your comment that the SEC tournament games mean the same as the results from the regular season SEC schedule, which I don't think is accurate for the reasons I noted. I guess we can weigh in after the NCAA tournament selection in a few weeks.

You didn't note any reasons. You just made a statement.

And your thinking is wrong, because Mizzou and other SEC teams will compete for the final at- large berths mainly against teams from other conferences in similar situations.

[Sophrosyne]

Let me clear this up (pardon the contortion of English). We win 4 more, we are in with a 10-8 conference record. If we end up 9-9, I don't think we get in, even with some wins in the SEC tourny. Wins in the SEC tourny mean little.

They mean the same as the regular season.

No, actually they don't. A 10-8 conference record gets you into the NCAA tournament. An 8-10 or 9-9 record, even if you throw on a couple of SEC tournament wins, likely doesn't get you into the NCAA field.

You're going to have to provide some evidence of "likely", because the math doesn't agree with you.

If you are winning games that others you are competing with for a bid aren't playing, then you can only improve your standing.

I was reacting to your comment that the SEC tournament games mean the same as the results from the regular season SEC schedule, which I don't think is accurate for the reasons I noted. I guess we can weigh in after the NCAA tournament selection in a few weeks.

You didn't note any reasons. You just made a statement.

And your thinking is wrong, because Mizzou and other SEC teams will compete for the final at- large berths mainly against teams from other conferences in similar situations.

Nope. Every year teams with a "good" conference record, in any number of conferences, make the NCAA tournament field. Teams with a less "good" conference record, say 9-9 rather than 10-8, typically are in the first group out of selection consideration, even if they string together a couple of wins in their conference tournament. I firmly think conference tournament wins are given a lesser weighting by the selection committee compared to regular season conference wins. Watch this year's selection and I think it will be borne out.

[winonsports]

Let me clear this up (pardon the contortion of English). We win 4 more, we are in with a 10-8 conference record. If we end up 9-9, I don't think we get in, even with some wins in the SEC tourny. Wins in the SEC tourny mean little.

They mean the same as the regular season.

No, actually they don't. A 10-8 conference record gets you into the NCAA tournament. An 8-10 or 9-9 record, even if you throw on a couple of SEC tournament wins, likely doesn't get you into the NCAA field.

You're going to have to provide some evidence of "likely", because the math doesn't agree with you.

If you are winning games that others you are competing with for a bid aren't playing, then you can only improve your standing.

I was reacting to your comment that the SEC tournament games mean the same as the results from the regular season SEC schedule, which I don't think is accurate for the reasons I noted. I guess we can weigh in after the NCAA tournament selection in a few weeks.

You didn't note any reasons. You just made a statement.

And your thinking is wrong, because Mizzou and other SEC teams will compete for the final at- large berths mainly against teams from other conferences in similar situations.

Nope. Every year teams with a "good" conference record, in any number of conferences, make the NCAA tournament field. Teams with a less "good" conference record, say 9-9 rather than 10-8, typically are in the first group out of selection consideration, even if they string together a couple of wins in their conference tournament. I firmly think conference tournament wins are given a lesser weighting by the selection committee compared to regular season conference wins. Watch this year's selection and I think it will be borne out.

Once again you are making a statement with no evidence.

Right now based on the net rankings, Mizzou is one of the last four in with Miami FL, St Mary's, and Oklahoma St. The first four out are Cal, SD St, TCU and Ohio St. (CBS sports)

Going 2-1 in a conference tournament will definitely separate you from any team going 0-1.

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Jerry Palm has the Tigers as Last Four In now.

[dhsux]

Clearly on the bubble with 8 games plus to play.

That's interesting because they can be in it but....anything can happen down the stretch.

[winonsports]

Clearly on the bubble with 8 games plus to play.

That's interesting because they can be in it but....anything can happen down the stretch.

What's interesting is how you phrased the last sentence.

What's not interesting is now understanding why you set things up to ascertain negative responses.

[fatlaz]

Mizzou may pick up another win if Alabama has to forfeit the game Bediakos played in.

[Sophrosyne]

Jerry Palm has the Tigers as Last Four In now.

Whew! I guess we can relax now.

[Sophrosyne]

Mizzou may pick up another win if Alabama has to forfeit the game Bediakos played in.

Yeah, I thought we were the better team in that game.

[clemonsonroots]

I am at the point I just want to grab my popcorn and that gives me something to do besides whining about the coach. I really don't know what is involved in pulling in big time recruits, but I believe the good players are bought like in a meat market, eg the big offensive tackle from Ozark to Miami. Kansas almost always pays better than MU does, thus they get elite talent like the Peterson kid and the five star coming in next year. You have to surround guys like that with solid, experienced guys from winning programs. No pun intended, they know how to win and do the things that allow you to look like a better coach.

Gates has big time recruits coming in next year.

I think they have the number one recruiting class and a couple of years ago, they also had a top 10 recruiting class.

[acco40]

Let me clear this up (pardon the contortion of English). We win 4 more, we are in with a 10-8 conference record. If we end up 9-9, I don't think we get in, even with some wins in the SEC tourny. Wins in the SEC tourny mean little.

They mean the same as the regular season.

Not really.

Example
Team #1: 6 - 25 (winning 6 games in the regular season and loses the first game of the SEC tournament - season over)
Team #2: 6 - 25 (wins 1 regular season game and sweeps the SEC tournament - goes on to the NCAA tournament)

Highly unlikely? Yes. Disproves both your postulate and Sophrosyne's? Most certainly.

[woofy25]

I think most people on here think that Mizzou should be a blueblood. They are a team that is equal in skill and talent to both Mississippi schools, LSU. Oklahoma and Texas. (Mizzou has a tough time with Texas because of their defense) Mizzou isn't a blueblood and remember they couldn't financially replace Grill and Bates. Hate Gates all you wanna, but I compare him to Pinkel....He get's more out of less and people still want him to get to a Final 4 something Norm Stewart couldn't do in 40 years.

About him losing to Princeton in the second round of the tournament...Princeton beat a 4th seeded Arizona in the first round. (This was Gates FIRST year as head coach and he had to throw a budget basement team together quickly) This past year when he lost to Drake who had one of the best defenses in college ball....Drake was predicted by most to beat Mizzou who struggled at the end of the year offensively. That Drake team is now at Iowa with their coach and they are 17-5 in the B10.

Not enough money to replace grill and gate but enough to sign 2 five stars and a four star. Ok

I don’t see anyone here or on powermizzou saying they’re a blue blood. However, they should be a top half SEC school that makes the tournament comfortably nearly every year.

4-4 is going to be really tough. I don’t like the Texas game. I think their ceiling is higher than Mizzou’s. Going .500 the rest of the way doable though. They have a great opp tomorrow night to turn a penciled in L to a win. They’re going to need to peak at the right time down the stretch.