One thing I think everyone knows is that you should always judge a 22 year old player in his first year of professional baseball and pitching at A+ and AA on 156 plate appearances. And even more importantly, prospects are always fully developed when they become pros and they never get any better or worse.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.
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Did you know he played little league baseball?Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 20:04 pmOne thing I think everyone knows is that you should always judge a 22 year old player in his first year of professional baseball and pitching at A+ and AA on 156 plate appearances. And even more importantly, prospects are always fully developed when they become pros and they never get any better or worse.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.
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And that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
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The reason he is better right handed is because he played the infield and built up his arm, throwing right handed. It’s not real hard to look that up.renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:46 pmHe is a stud of an athlete. He was also a proficient switch hitter.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
It's really not a gimmick. It goes back a long way he played
in the LLWS.
He is a natural left hander. Should he have just stayed
as a left hander? The entire reason he throws RH was that
he was trying to mimic his dad. He exceeded what his dad did
as a RH professional catcher in the Netherlands.
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It would appear he needs to stay right handed although he needs to find a way to get left handed batters out. His splits indicate he must have a great slider or curve that is successful vs right handed batters. I wonder what his fastball tops out at.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 04:12 amThe reason he is better right handed is because he played the infield and built up his arm, throwing right handed. It’s not real hard to look that up.renostl wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:46 pmHe is a stud of an athlete. He was also a proficient switch hitter.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
It's really not a gimmick. It goes back a long way he played
in the LLWS.
He is a natural left hander. Should he have just stayed
as a left hander? The entire reason he throws RH was that
he was trying to mimic his dad. He exceeded what his dad did
as a RH professional catcher in the Netherlands.
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True. Perhaps Bloom has hired somebody who can develop pitchers.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 02:49 amAnd that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
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He did hire a director of pitching with Seattle background ... Matt Pierpont He will be tasked with getting the most out of the pitching corps.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 06:45 amTrue. Perhaps Bloom has hired somebody who can develop pitchers.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 02:49 amAnd that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
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Wow, ecleme was right, useless combo of skepticism and ignorance.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 06:45 amTrue. Perhaps Bloom has hired somebody who can develop pitchers.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 02:49 amAnd that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
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We need a change but I would point out Seattle has one of the most pitcher friendly ballparks in MLB and they were slightly below average in runs allowed in the AL in 2025.ramfandan wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 07:30 amHe did hire a director of pitching with Seattle background ... Matt Pierpont He will be tasked with getting the most out of the pitching corps.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 06:45 amTrue. Perhaps Bloom has hired somebody who can develop pitchers.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 02:49 amAnd that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
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She is a treasure to the forum and should post more often to provide us with her thoughts. Your posts pale in comparison.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 08:17 amWow, ecleme was right, useless combo of skepticism and ignorance.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 06:45 amTrue. Perhaps Bloom has hired somebody who can develop pitchers.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 02:49 amAnd that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
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For those without MLBTV they have a header with a game of the night on the app. It usually will feature a player from each team pictured as the face of that game. I noticed one night he was the player profile listed as the featured player for the game of the night. I did flip it on to watch him. I was confused why he was going exclusively right handed for the portion I watched. I was left confused.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:49 am According to what I found asking some Mariners fans was that he started the year throwing exclusively LH to LHP, but towards the end of the year is when he started throwing RH to LHH. Not sure if it was exclusively or some mix of only throwing LH to LHH with extreme splits. It did sound like when he threw RH against LHH it was more of a problem with not having a plan on getting hitters out from that side rather than lack of talent. And apparently that is what Seattle, and I’m assuming the Cardinals will continue to work on.
And it does sound like while he was with the Mariners he still continued to throw LH in non game situations to see if he could develop enough from that side to throw to LHH with extreme splits. And judging by Bloom’s own words in the video that was helpfully provided. It sounds like the Cardinals will go forward with that. Bloom wouldn’t commit fully, saying that the Cardinals staff first need to speak first with Cijntje and talk with him about it, but from an outside perspective he thought that would be the direction they would go.
When I saw the topic of the right side being his dominate side post trade it made why what I was watching in that game far more clear.
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Though I am not a woman, I don't consider being called one a knock.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 08:42 amShe is a treasure to the forum and should post more often to provide us with her thoughts. Your posts pale in comparison.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 08:17 amWow, ecleme was right, useless combo of skepticism and ignorance.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 06:45 amTrue. Perhaps Bloom has hired somebody who can develop pitchers.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 02:49 amAnd that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
You really offer nothing on this forum unless it's pumping up Matheny.
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Brilliant! A poster that starts a thread based in total ignorance(not knowing the guy is naturally left handed, etc.), lays bare his ignorance on the topic(not knowing a single thing about his handedness has been handled) and pretty much anything that relates to the topic(not knowing Bloom has hired Pierpont about a year and a half ago) he started the thread about, critiquing other's posts.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 08:42 amShe is a treasure to the forum and should post more often to provide us with her thoughts. Your posts pale in comparison.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 08:17 amWow, ecleme was right, useless combo of skepticism and ignorance.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 06:45 amTrue. Perhaps Bloom has hired somebody who can develop pitchers.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 02:49 amAnd that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
You're not only ignorant, you're a dumb[ash].
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A fishing allure?
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Excellent post. Google your username.ecleme22 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 10:05 amThough I am not a woman, I don't consider being called one a knock.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 08:42 amShe is a treasure to the forum and should post more often to provide us with her thoughts. Your posts pale in comparison.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 08:17 amWow, ecleme was right, useless combo of skepticism and ignorance.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 06:45 amTrue. Perhaps Bloom has hired somebody who can develop pitchers.AnExParrot wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026 02:49 amAnd that is exactly what the minor leagues are for, right?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 17:28 pmWith an .800+ OPS vs LHB In A+ ball he needs to improve significantly to be a starting pitcher in St Louis. Relief pitcher maybe but as a starter they will stack the lineup with LHB.AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 15:53 pmWell it's a good thing he isn't on the Cardinals, yet.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:42 pmThe Cardinals are not a little league team Ellen Clements.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 14:14 pmHe’s been switched pitching since Little league, moronScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 13:35 pmWhy do you read my content when it clearly irritates you and you call me foul names? Just put me on ignore.ecleme22 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 10:13 amYou after the trade:ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.
Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
"Somebody at redbird rants got a free seat in the press box or a luxury suite. The ambidextrous pitcher is curious. When has that ever worked? If you have good stuff it doesn't matter whether you are righthanded or lefthanded. The fact that he doesn't trust his righthanded stuff vs lefthanded batters..."
The kid is a natural LH who began throwing RH at a VERY young age because he liked to use his dad's glove, who was RH.
You're consistently coming at this trade with a useless combination of skepticism and ignorance.
He had an .845 OPS vs LHP in the low minors which is why they had him try throwing left handed but unfortunately he was even worse left handed. It had nothing to do with his Dad's glove.
You really offer nothing on this forum unless it's pumping up Matheny.