The ambidextrous pitcher

Welcome to STLtoday.com's forum for fans of the St. Louis Cardinals.

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators

ScotchMIrish
Forum User
Posts: 2010
Joined: 08 Sep 2024 21:25 pm

The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by ScotchMIrish »

He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.

Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
12xu
Forum User
Posts: 4216
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:46 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by 12xu »

ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.

Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
It has already been reported that Cijntje is now pitching almost exclusively as a RH.
mattmitchl44
Forum User
Posts: 3241
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:33 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by mattmitchl44 »

I imagine the only reason he's been allowed to stick with throwing LH as long as he has is because he is apparently naturally LH.

However, I expect that sooner rather than later he's going to need to work on throwing RH to LH batters and learning how to get outs that way.
Ronnie Dobbs
Forum User
Posts: 1731
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:17 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by Ronnie Dobbs »

mattmitchl44 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:39 am I imagine the only reason he's been allowed to stick with throwing LH as long as he has is because he is apparently naturally LH.

However, I expect that sooner rather than later he's going to need to work on throwing RH to LH batters and learning how to get outs that way.
Apparently he already does that. I was watching a highlight video posted the other day and it showed him throwing RH to multiple LHH. There is also a highlight where he throws RH to a RHH and then next batter is LH and he switches to LHP. I asked if he has been throwing LH to LHH's with more drastic splits and otherwise throwing RH. No one responded, so maybe I'll ask this to some Mariners fans and see what they have to say.
ScotchMIrish
Forum User
Posts: 2010
Joined: 08 Sep 2024 21:25 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by ScotchMIrish »

mattmitchl44 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:39 am I imagine the only reason he's been allowed to stick with throwing LH as long as he has is because he is apparently naturally LH.

However, I expect that sooner rather than later he's going to need to work on throwing RH to LH batters and learning how to get outs that way.
That was the headline player we got for an all star, gold glove and top 5 OPS at 2B in MLB.
Ronnie Dobbs
Forum User
Posts: 1731
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:17 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by Ronnie Dobbs »

ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:18 am He may turn out to be an ace but it seems to me if he has great stuff he wouldn't have switch to throwing left handed against left handed batters.

Maybe Bloom thinks he will be an attraction to draw fans?
His value as a prospect isn’t about the fact that he could throw both LH and RH. He’s not as good LH as he is RH. Probably a LH reliever, if that’s all he threw. His value is the kind of pitcher he is throwing RH.
mattmitchl44
Forum User
Posts: 3241
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:33 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by mattmitchl44 »

ScotchMIrish wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:57 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:39 am I imagine the only reason he's been allowed to stick with throwing LH as long as he has is because he is apparently naturally LH.

However, I expect that sooner rather than later he's going to need to work on throwing RH to LH batters and learning how to get outs that way.
That was the headline player we got for an all star, gold glove and top 5 OPS at 2B in MLB.
According to some evaluators, he has the ceiling of a #2 RH SP if he can reach it.
mattmitchl44
Forum User
Posts: 3241
Joined: 23 May 2024 15:33 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by mattmitchl44 »

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:54 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:39 am I imagine the only reason he's been allowed to stick with throwing LH as long as he has is because he is apparently naturally LH.

However, I expect that sooner rather than later he's going to need to work on throwing RH to LH batters and learning how to get outs that way.
Apparently he already does that. I was watching a highlight video posted the other day and it showed him throwing RH to multiple LHH. There is also a highlight where he throws RH to a RHH and then next batter is LH and he switches to LHP. I asked if he has been throwing LH to LHH's with more drastic splits and otherwise throwing RH. No one responded, so maybe I'll ask this to some Mariners fans and see what they have to say.
I perhaps should have said "work exclusively on throwing RH to LH batters."
NYCardsFan
Forum User
Posts: 1669
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:52 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by NYCardsFan »

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:54 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 08:39 am I imagine the only reason he's been allowed to stick with throwing LH as long as he has is because he is apparently naturally LH.

However, I expect that sooner rather than later he's going to need to work on throwing RH to LH batters and learning how to get outs that way.
Apparently he already does that. I was watching a highlight video posted the other day and it showed him throwing RH to multiple LHH. There is also a highlight where he throws RH to a RHH and then next batter is LH and he switches to LHP. I asked if he has been throwing LH to LHH's with more drastic splits and otherwise throwing RH. No one responded, so maybe I'll ask this to some Mariners fans and see what they have to say.
Don’t know if it answers your particular question, but there was a discussion of his splits here: viewtopic.php?t=1520135
Ronnie Dobbs
Forum User
Posts: 1731
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:17 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by Ronnie Dobbs »

NYCardsFan wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:27 amDon’t know if it answers your particular question, but there was a discussion of his splits here: viewtopic.php?t=1520135
Nice, I didn’t see that thread.

But yea, my assumption is that he is viewed primarily as a RHP that will normally throw RH against LHH, but occasionally switch to LHP if facing a LHH with drastic splits. And quite honestly, I hope they don’t totally give up on letting him at least continue to throw LH outside of actual games. If he can develop into a guy who can serviceably throw LH when needed, especially if he just ends up a bullpen guy, that would really be helpful for his career. I get that that would be worst case scenario for him, but never hurts to plan for the future.
Galatians221jb1
Forum User
Posts: 2116
Joined: 30 Mar 2023 15:23 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by Galatians221jb1 »

Evidently he's also amphibious. That's the real allure 8O
Pura Vida
Forum User
Posts: 221
Joined: 04 Jul 2024 13:26 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by Pura Vida »

Time will tell if he pans out, but pitching L and R at a pro level is fascinating. Maybe have a glove for him with two webs so he can face lefties as a lefty and switch R for righties...ha!
11WSChamps
Forum User
Posts: 4586
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:35 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by 11WSChamps »

Wonder what his bobblehead promotion will look like?

Mo would have had a field day with this one.
Strummer Jones
Forum User
Posts: 1826
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:55 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by Strummer Jones »

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:40 am
NYCardsFan wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:27 amDon’t know if it answers your particular question, but there was a discussion of his splits here: viewtopic.php?t=1520135
Nice, I didn’t see that thread.

But yea, my assumption is that he is viewed primarily as a RHP that will normally throw RH against LHH, but occasionally switch to LHP if facing a LHH with drastic splits. And quite honestly, I hope they don’t totally give up on letting him at least continue to throw LH outside of actual games. If he can develop into a guy who can serviceably throw LH when needed, especially if he just ends up a bullpen guy, that would really be helpful for his career. I get that that would be worst case scenario for him, but never hurts to plan for the future.
I agree with that.

I could see a scenario where he's at the end of his rope and the next guy up is a real splitty lefty and Cintje (I think I spelled that right) does a 180 and goes at him left-handed with a fresh-ish arm. Though...is he allowed to alter his between-inning warmup routine? However many pitches he gets...does he/can he get extras to warm up his left arm, too?
NYCardsFan
Forum User
Posts: 1669
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:52 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by NYCardsFan »

Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:40 am
NYCardsFan wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:27 amDon’t know if it answers your particular question, but there was a discussion of his splits here: viewtopic.php?t=1520135
Nice, I didn’t see that thread.

But yea, my assumption is that he is viewed primarily as a RHP that will normally throw RH against LHH, but occasionally switch to LHP if facing a LHH with drastic splits. And quite honestly, I hope they don’t totally give up on letting him at least continue to throw LH outside of actual games. If he can develop into a guy who can serviceably throw LH when needed, especially if he just ends up a bullpen guy, that would really be helpful for his career. I get that that would be worst case scenario for him, but never hurts to plan for the future.
Bloom was asked about and addressed the rough plan in his small presser. Here’s the link at 3:36:

https://www.youtube.com/live/Q-_preCTWV ... 7Nn6wsqzt7
11WSChamps
Forum User
Posts: 4586
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:35 pm

Re: The ambidextrous pitcher

Post by 11WSChamps »

Strummer Jones wrote: 06 Feb 2026 10:04 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:40 am
NYCardsFan wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:27 amDon’t know if it answers your particular question, but there was a discussion of his splits here: viewtopic.php?t=1520135
Nice, I didn’t see that thread.

But yea, my assumption is that he is viewed primarily as a RHP that will normally throw RH against LHH, but occasionally switch to LHP if facing a LHH with drastic splits. And quite honestly, I hope they don’t totally give up on letting him at least continue to throw LH outside of actual games. If he can develop into a guy who can serviceably throw LH when needed, especially if he just ends up a bullpen guy, that would really be helpful for his career. I get that that would be worst case scenario for him, but never hurts to plan for the future.
I agree with that.

I could see a scenario where he's at the end of his rope and the next guy up is a real splitty lefty and Cintje (I think I spelled that right) does a 180 and goes at him left-handed with a fresh-ish arm. Though...is he allowed to alter his between-inning warmup routine? However many pitches he gets...does he/can he get extras to warm up his left arm, too?
Maybe baseball can create a rule for him like they did Ohtani.
Post Reply