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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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generous gift indeed after all the other contributions this family has given. Will help out tremendously for the Programs. Is this going into NIL or general help for what? did mention a Donor Lounge which makes a lot of sense. Take care of your people.
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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hdhntr148 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:50 am generous gift indeed after all the other contributions this family has given. Will help out tremendously for the Programs. Is this going into NIL or general help for what? did mention a Donor Lounge which makes a lot of sense. Take care of your people.
This commitment supports the Competitive Excellence Fund, which is unrestricted support of Mizzou's efforts to compete for championships, such as revenue sharing, recruiting and other impactful opportunities
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:09 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
If they are self-sustaining, why do they need donations?
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acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.
...
From the Athletic Dept:

"The Vogels are among Mizzou's most dedicated philanthropic leaders. ...

"This gift [is] coupled with campaign contributions to Athletics, the Trulaske College of Business and Children's Hospital."
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:09 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
One year ago they reported a $15 million deficit.

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edwin drood wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:56 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:09 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
One year ago they reported a $15 million deficit.

https://www.columbiamissourian.com/spor ... 9d394.html
So maybe they gave because the athletic programs are not self-sustaining and need a little boost.
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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Curmudgeon wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:50 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.
...
From the Athletic Dept:

"The Vogels are among Mizzou's most dedicated philanthropic leaders. ...

"This gift [is] coupled with campaign contributions to Athletics, the Trulaske College of Business and Children's Hospital."
It's ridiculous to assume because one way is taken, that means anything else is ignored.
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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winonsports wrote: 05 Feb 2026 17:56 pm
Curmudgeon wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:50 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.
...
From the Athletic Dept:

"The Vogels are among Mizzou's most dedicated philanthropic leaders. ...

"This gift [is] coupled with campaign contributions to Athletics, the Trulaske College of Business and Children's Hospital."
It's ridiculous to assume because one way is taken, that means anything else is ignored.
Fascinating. Even when you have nothing to say, you say it anyway.
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:49 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:09 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
If they are self-sustaining, why do they need donations?
That's why they need donations.
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:09 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
The University is more self-sustaining than most people realize. Just 9.8% of the University's annual operating revenue comes from the state. 30 years ago that figure was 70%.

I wouldn't ever tell someone how to spend their money, so this isnt a judgment on Vogel's gift. I view it as incredibly generous. I make this comment because the state support is a much smaller % than most would guess and I think that erroneous perception is evident in this thread.

https://www.giving.missouri.edu/s/1002/ ... &pgid=7812
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3-2 Fastball wrote: 05 Feb 2026 21:47 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:09 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
The University is more self-sustaining than most people realize. Just 9.8% of the University's annual operating revenue comes from the state. 30 years ago that figure was 70%.

I wouldn't ever tell someone how to spend their money, so this isnt a judgment on Vogel's gift. I view it as incredibly generous. I make this comment because the state support is a much smaller % than most would guess and I think that erroneous perception is evident in this thread.

https://www.giving.missouri.edu/s/1002/ ... &pgid=7812
That's the reason tuition/housing costs have risen so much in the past 50 years - state funding has plummeted. Yeah, were not supposed to get into politics - but the shift of Missouri from blue => purple => red follows the same trend. A university education is now viewed less as a societal benefit (partially taxpayer funded) but more as an individual choice (cost burden falls more on individual student). I don't think anyone had an erroneous perception on this thread about the above.
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acco40 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:17 am
3-2 Fastball wrote: 05 Feb 2026 21:47 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:09 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
The University is more self-sustaining than most people realize. Just 9.8% of the University's annual operating revenue comes from the state. 30 years ago that figure was 70%.

I wouldn't ever tell someone how to spend their money, so this isnt a judgment on Vogel's gift. I view it as incredibly generous. I make this comment because the state support is a much smaller % than most would guess and I think that erroneous perception is evident in this thread.

https://www.giving.missouri.edu/s/1002/ ... &pgid=7812
That's the reason tuition/housing costs have risen so much in the past 50 years - state funding has plummeted. Yeah, were not supposed to get into politics - but the shift of Missouri from blue => purple => red follows the same trend. A university education is now viewed less as a societal benefit (partially taxpayer funded) but more as an individual choice (cost burden falls more on individual student). I don't think anyone had an erroneous perception on this thread about the above.
Lest we forget as you often do its not the "state" its the taxpayers.

It's called accountability.

The fact tuitions continue rise at record rates doesn't mean the taxpayers should keep footing the bill.
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Re: A Generous Gift for the Tigers

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11WSChamps wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:22 am
acco40 wrote: 06 Feb 2026 09:17 am
3-2 Fastball wrote: 05 Feb 2026 21:47 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 05 Feb 2026 15:09 pm
acco40 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 13:20 pm Thanks to Paul Vogel for his generous gift.

What I don't understand is why alumni would give to the athletic program as opposed to the Mizzou in general.

I assume the referenced Paul Vogel is this guy: Paul L. Vogel is a co-founder and director of TPC Capital Solutions, LLC, a family office consulting firm serving ultra-high net worth individuals and their advisors. With expertise in tax law, accounting, wealth management, and diverse business acumen, Vogel provides strategic guidance to help family offices and client families create comprehensive plans for themselves, their businesses, and future generations. Vogel is also Managing Partner of Vogel Law Office which advises families of significant wealth on tax, trust/estate, and business matters.

Prior to TPC and Vogel Law Office, Vogel founded Argos Family Office in St. Louis leveraging his background in public accounting, trust management, and advanced tax and legal credentials to serve the complex needs of ultra-affluent families.
Maybe because the athletic programs are self-sustaining.
The University is more self-sustaining than most people realize. Just 9.8% of the University's annual operating revenue comes from the state. 30 years ago that figure was 70%.

I wouldn't ever tell someone how to spend their money, so this isnt a judgment on Vogel's gift. I view it as incredibly generous. I make this comment because the state support is a much smaller % than most would guess and I think that erroneous perception is evident in this thread.

https://www.giving.missouri.edu/s/1002/ ... &pgid=7812
That's the reason tuition/housing costs have risen so much in the past 50 years - state funding has plummeted. Yeah, were not supposed to get into politics - but the shift of Missouri from blue => purple => red follows the same trend. A university education is now viewed less as a societal benefit (partially taxpayer funded) but more as an individual choice (cost burden falls more on individual student). I don't think anyone had an erroneous perception on this thread about the above.
Lest we forget as you often do its not the "state" its the taxpayers.

It's called accountability.

The fact tuitions continue rise at record rates doesn't mean the taxpayers should keep footing the bill.
Most folks understand that state funding and federal funding means taxpayers.

It's perfectly fine to debate (well except for this forum) what commodities should be paid for by individuals or the state (or community or society or taxpayers - however you want to brand it). That debate revolves around all types of education. The reason tuition continued to rise (and room and board) is because of the shift in the funding burden. I didn't make any value statement on where the cost burden should lie, just stating the reason tuition has outpaced inflation.

A corollary argument has been the purpose of a college education. For many the primary purpose is for personal growth such as the development of critical thinking skills and exposure to lifetime learning. For others, it's simply a means to a better paying job. When I attended Mizzou the cost of course in basket weaving was the same as the cost for nuclear engineering (in fact the basket weaving course may cost more due to the weaving supplies needed!). Now, engineering courses are higher priced than say business classes due to the perceived job market benefits that favor recent engineering graduates vs. say a business graduate. Is that good or bad? I won't weigh in here, I'm just pointing out the facts. Don't shoot the messengers of truth. We already see too much of that in the real world.
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