Cards only netting 20 mil from their MLB deal

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Re: Cards only netting 20 mil from their MLB deal

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45s wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:12 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:03 am
45s wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:57 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:53 am
rockondlouie wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:07 am Manfred will pool most local rev and share with new CBA….
Good luck getting the Dodgers to agree to share their massive $334M per year that rises to over $500M near the end of the deal!

Yankees.....$143M

Blue Jays...$100M-$150M est

I agree it should happen but these teams with massive local rights deals are going to tell ManFraud to "Go to h e l l".
But the model no longer works….something must be done. He’s on record already with that as the goal. Not sure how close he gets.
“Something must be done”

and what are the repercussions if this is not done?
Well I guess the mid to small markets become minor league feeder teams for the top 5-6 markets. Is that healthy for league?
I’m not sure what your issue is with Revenue sharing. MLB is a private franchise business….they can do whatever they want.
How does it affect you as an individual fan if most of local Revenue is shared amongst the teams? They already share 48%
Because I don’t think successful clubs should have to support failing clubs…

You want to subsidize incompetence…………

Oh poor Pittsburg and St. Louis….they suck, so let’s reward them with some of the Dodgers money…
You’re either completely ignorant about the differences between the major markets and everyone else, or you’re being purposefully disingenuous to troll people.

All other major sports have figured out a way to level the financial and competitive playing field to provide a level of parity that ensures the future health and success of their leagues. If I were a fan of LAD or NYY, I would probably agree with you because I’m a selfish fan that wants the best for my team only, but step back and look at the sport as a whole and you see fans of mid-to-small market teams losing interest because the rich teams are more and more likely to buy a WS.
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Re: Cards only netting 20 mil from their MLB deal

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ZouMiz2424 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 09:27 am https://x.com/joshjaco98/status/2019042 ... 18543?s=20

Yikes. That won't work long term
At least it'll be enough to cover the 2026 MLB roster...
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Re: Cards only netting 20 mil from their MLB deal

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Horseradish wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:55 am
45s wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:12 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:03 am
45s wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:57 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:53 am
rockondlouie wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:07 am Manfred will pool most local rev and share with new CBA….
Good luck getting the Dodgers to agree to share their massive $334M per year that rises to over $500M near the end of the deal!

Yankees.....$143M

Blue Jays...$100M-$150M est

I agree it should happen but these teams with massive local rights deals are going to tell ManFraud to "Go to h e l l".
But the model no longer works….something must be done. He’s on record already with that as the goal. Not sure how close he gets.
“Something must be done”

and what are the repercussions if this is not done?
Well I guess the mid to small markets become minor league feeder teams for the top 5-6 markets. Is that healthy for league?
I’m not sure what your issue is with Revenue sharing. MLB is a private franchise business….they can do whatever they want.
How does it affect you as an individual fan if most of local Revenue is shared amongst the teams? They already share 48%
Because I don’t think successful clubs should have to support failing clubs…

You want to subsidize incompetence…………

Oh poor Pittsburg and St. Louis….they suck, so let’s reward them with some of the Dodgers money…
You’re either completely ignorant about the differences between the major markets and everyone else, or you’re being purposefully disingenuous to troll people.

All other major sports have figured out a way to level the financial and competitive playing field to provide a level of parity that ensures the future health and success of their leagues. If I were a fan of LAD or NYY, I would probably agree with you because I’m a selfish fan that wants the best for my team only, but step back and look at the sport as a whole and you see fans of mid-to-small market teams losing interest because the rich teams are more and more likely to buy a WS.
Correct.
MLB's anti-trust exemption (which the courts have admitted is blatantly illegal but permitted to stand) protects the revenue of large market teams and restricts the rest.
It is THE central issue at the heart of MLB's sickness - and yet very few understand that.
The other major sports leagues have no such exemption, and that is why they are able to operate in a healthy and cooperative way that benefits all their franchises and the fans (who are, after all, the consumers).
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Re: Cards only netting 20 mil from their MLB deal

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NorthernBird wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:01 am
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 09:27 am https://x.com/joshjaco98/status/2019042 ... 18543?s=20

Yikes. That won't work long term
At least it'll be enough to cover the 2026 MLB roster...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Horseradish wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:55 am
45s wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:12 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:03 am
45s wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:57 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:53 am
rockondlouie wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:07 am Manfred will pool most local rev and share with new CBA….
Good luck getting the Dodgers to agree to share their massive $334M per year that rises to over $500M near the end of the deal!

Yankees.....$143M

Blue Jays...$100M-$150M est

I agree it should happen but these teams with massive local rights deals are going to tell ManFraud to "Go to h e l l".
But the model no longer works….something must be done. He’s on record already with that as the goal. Not sure how close he gets.
“Something must be done”

and what are the repercussions if this is not done?
Well I guess the mid to small markets become minor league feeder teams for the top 5-6 markets. Is that healthy for league?
I’m not sure what your issue is with Revenue sharing. MLB is a private franchise business….they can do whatever they want.
How does it affect you as an individual fan if most of local Revenue is shared amongst the teams? They already share 48%
Because I don’t think successful clubs should have to support failing clubs…

You want to subsidize incompetence…………

Oh poor Pittsburg and St. Louis….they suck, so let’s reward them with some of the Dodgers money…
You’re either completely ignorant about the differences between the major markets and everyone else, or you’re being purposefully disingenuous to troll people.

All other major sports have figured out a way to level the financial and competitive playing field to provide a level of parity that ensures the future health and success of their leagues. If I were a fan of LAD or NYY, I would probably agree with you because I’m a selfish fan that wants the best for my team only, but step back and look at the sport as a whole and you see fans of mid-to-small market teams losing interest because the rich teams are more and more likely to buy a WS.
Yea the dodgers have won their division 12 of the last 13
Years the one year they won 106 games and it took the giants winning 107 to win the division so the teams starting out in their division know they are just competing for the wild card. They made it to the World Series 5 of the last 9 years won three of them and should have won 4 but the astros cheated banging on trash cans.
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Re: Cards only netting 20 mil from their MLB deal

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woofy25 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:13 am
Jatalk wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:03 am I honestly don’t know but it just feels like the organization dropped the ball and limited their options. This has been an issue for two years or more.
Ha, always the team's fault. Their partner stopped paying them. What ball did the Cardinals drop in this case?
I read about options of starting own network for example. I’m no expert just saying they had time to better address an obvious problem.
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BrockFloodMaris wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:53 am
Jatalk wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:03 am I honestly don’t know but it just feels like the organization dropped the ball and limited their options. This has been an issue for two years or more.
Almost half of MLB was under contract with Diamond Sports, which has now gone bankrupt. MLB has stepped in to take over tv production for most of those teams. What were the Cards’ other options?
Maybe none but could they had started own network? I had read about that option somewhere.
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The Rangers and Astros built their own networks when Ballys and ATT Sportsnet discontinued operations..
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45s wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:54 am The Rangers and Astros built their own networks when Ballys and ATT Sportsnet discontinued operations..
Just curious, do the Cardinals come down to TX so the Rangers can broadcast games? Do the Rangers come to STL so the Rangers can broadcast games?
If there weren’t the others teams to actually complete the competition loop…..would there be any games to broadcast?
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Good thing we cut $120 million of payroll. Now let’s issue some bonds to renovate Busch stadium!!!
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Midrange Jay wrote: 05 Feb 2026 10:01 am Good thing we cut $120 million of payroll. Now let’s issue some bonds to renovate Busch stadium!!!
If no one is there…..does it need renovating?
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Goldfan wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:58 am
45s wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:54 am The Rangers and Astros built their own networks when Ballys and ATT Sportsnet discontinued operations..
Just curious, do the Cardinals come down to TX so the Rangers can broadcast games? Do the Rangers come to STL so the Rangers can broadcast games?
If there weren’t the others teams to actually complete the competition loop…..would there be any games to broadcast?
It’s foolish for you and I to continue to exchange comments…

We have diametrically opposing points of view…..and there is not anything wrong with that..

The poster asked about network options….I passed along some information..

My final thought is that the big boys are not going to participate without a fight….let the lawsuits begin…
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45s wrote: 05 Feb 2026 10:08 am
Goldfan wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:58 am
45s wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:54 am The Rangers and Astros built their own networks when Ballys and ATT Sportsnet discontinued operations..
Just curious, do the Cardinals come down to TX so the Rangers can broadcast games? Do the Rangers come to STL so the Rangers can broadcast games?
If there weren’t the others teams to actually complete the competition loop…..would there be any games to broadcast?
It’s foolish for you and I to continue to exchange comments…

We have diametrically opposing points of view…..and there is not anything wrong with that..

The poster asked about network options….I passed along some information..

My final thought is that the big boys are not going to participate without a fight….let the lawsuits begin…
Well you have to acknowledge these teams need other other to exist……therefore the bounty should shared to survive. Posters comment that each team is a separate business competing with each other…..like Walmart or target…..it’s not ….they don’t require each other to exist
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Jatalk wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:30 am
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:53 am
Jatalk wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:03 am I honestly don’t know but it just feels like the organization dropped the ball and limited their options. This has been an issue for two years or more.
Almost half of MLB was under contract with Diamond Sports, which has now gone bankrupt. MLB has stepped in to take over tv production for most of those teams. What were the Cards’ other options?
Maybe none but could they had started own network? I had read about that option somewhere.
That probably makes sense for a big city team. It sounds expensive for a small tv market team.
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Re: Cards only netting 20 mil from their MLB deal

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Goldfan wrote: 05 Feb 2026 10:13 am
45s wrote: 05 Feb 2026 10:08 am
Goldfan wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:58 am
45s wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:54 am The Rangers and Astros built their own networks when Ballys and ATT Sportsnet discontinued operations..
Just curious, do the Cardinals come down to TX so the Rangers can broadcast games? Do the Rangers come to STL so the Rangers can broadcast games?
If there weren’t the others teams to actually complete the competition loop…..would there be any games to broadcast?
It’s foolish for you and I to continue to exchange comments…

We have diametrically opposing points of view…..and there is not anything wrong with that..

The poster asked about network options….I passed along some information..

My final thought is that the big boys are not going to participate without a fight….let the lawsuits begin…
Well you have to acknowledge these teams need other other to exist……therefore the bounty should shared to survive. Posters comment that each team is a separate business competing with each other…..like Walmart or target…..it’s not ….they don’t require each other to exist
Shared….

That suggests equal distribution……and should include equal contributions…

Please correct me if I am wrong….but your plan seems to suggest the Dodgers pay …for example 1/4 of the pie……but only get 1/30 to eat…
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Melville wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:09 am
Horseradish wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:55 am
45s wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:12 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:03 am
45s wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:57 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:53 am
rockondlouie wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 04 Feb 2026 10:07 am Manfred will pool most local rev and share with new CBA….
Good luck getting the Dodgers to agree to share their massive $334M per year that rises to over $500M near the end of the deal!

Yankees.....$143M

Blue Jays...$100M-$150M est

I agree it should happen but these teams with massive local rights deals are going to tell ManFraud to "Go to h e l l".
But the model no longer works….something must be done. He’s on record already with that as the goal. Not sure how close he gets.
“Something must be done”

and what are the repercussions if this is not done?
Well I guess the mid to small markets become minor league feeder teams for the top 5-6 markets. Is that healthy for league?
I’m not sure what your issue is with Revenue sharing. MLB is a private franchise business….they can do whatever they want.
How does it affect you as an individual fan if most of local Revenue is shared amongst the teams? They already share 48%
Because I don’t think successful clubs should have to support failing clubs…

You want to subsidize incompetence…………

Oh poor Pittsburg and St. Louis….they suck, so let’s reward them with some of the Dodgers money…
You’re either completely ignorant about the differences between the major markets and everyone else, or you’re being purposefully disingenuous to troll people.

All other major sports have figured out a way to level the financial and competitive playing field to provide a level of parity that ensures the future health and success of their leagues. If I were a fan of LAD or NYY, I would probably agree with you because I’m a selfish fan that wants the best for my team only, but step back and look at the sport as a whole and you see fans of mid-to-small market teams losing interest because the rich teams are more and more likely to buy a WS.
Correct.
MLB's anti-trust exemption (which the courts have admitted is blatantly illegal but permitted to stand) protects the revenue of large market teams and restricts the rest.
It is THE central issue at the heart of MLB's sickness - and yet very few understand that.
The other major sports leagues have no such exemption, and that is why they are able to operate in a healthy and cooperative way that benefits all their franchises and the fans (who are, after all, the consumers).
I was just having this discussion yesterday with a client. The only way a salary cap gets installed is thru Congress getting involved. I cannot believe the exemption is still in effect in 2026, even though precedent says it shouldn't be! My only conclusion is $$$$$$$.
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