Cardinals choosing Power Arms

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

If you can get far away enough from CT, Cardinals and baseball, and then gaze into our off season, you see a steady diet of pitchers. That’s now become a complaint- where are the hitters.

But. The real trend I see, not just any pitchers, but those with power arms. This is a distinct new direction. And it must be nurtured with- lots of arms.

The winners in the league all have power arms. This seems to be the model/ then the Dodgers type with a saturation of arms. I heard a stat- Woo throws 70 percent fastballs. Can that be correct?

So for this rebuild, I or we can certainly see a direction this first off season. Pitching.

Power Arms.

[alw80]

Good morning.

If you can get far away enough from CT, Cardinals and baseball, and then gaze into our off season, you see a steady diet of pitchers. That’s now become a complaint- where are the hitters.

But. The real trend I see, not just any pitchers, but those with power arms. This is a distinct new direction. And it must be nurtured with- lots of arms.

The winners in the league all have power arms. This seems to be the model/ then the Dodgers type with a saturation of arms. I heard a stat- Woo throws 70 percent fastballs. Can that be correct?

So for this rebuild, I or we can certainly see a direction this first off season. Pitching.

Power Arms.

This is the smart thing to do. Load up on pitching and when you think you have enough load up on more pitchers.

[mattmitchl44]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

[sikeston bulldog2]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

[mattmitchl44]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

[sikeston bulldog2]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

[sikeston bulldog2]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

[2ninr]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

When you are trying to prevent one run, you want a strikeout.

[sikeston bulldog2]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

When you are trying to prevent one run, you want a strikeout.

So you are saying the power arm extends into the pen. I mentioned earlier that I saw a stat that Woo threw 70 percent fastballs. Is that possible- did I simply hear wrong.

[2ninr]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

When you are trying to prevent one run, you want a strikeout.

So you are saying the power arm extends into the pen. I mentioned earlier that I saw a stat that Woo threw 70 percent fastballs. Is that possible- did I simply hear wrong.

Woo threw 72% fastball last year. And yes. Guys with power arms and poor secondary pitches become relievers. I believe we are going to start seeing teams use guys with a full arsenal of pitches more and more as the 5 inning start becomes more prevalent. Think Tink Hence.

[sikeston bulldog2]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

When you are trying to prevent one run, you want a strikeout.

So you are saying the power arm extends into the pen. I mentioned earlier that I saw a stat that Woo threw 70 percent fastballs. Is that possible- did I simply hear wrong.

Woo threw 72% fastball last year. And yes. Guys with power arms and poor secondary pitches become relievers. I believe we are going to start seeing teams use guys with a full arsenal of pitches more and more as the 5 inning start becomes more prevalent. Think Tink Hence.

Then close it down with power. Do you think throwing 72 percent fastballs will hurt or help the arm/shoulder, simply by less strain from anything curved.

[2ninr]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

When you are trying to prevent one run, you want a strikeout.

So you are saying the power arm extends into the pen. I mentioned earlier that I saw a stat that Woo threw 70 percent fastballs. Is that possible- did I simply hear wrong.

Woo threw 72% fastball last year. And yes. Guys with power arms and poor secondary pitches become relievers. I believe we are going to start seeing teams use guys with a full arsenal of pitches more and more as the 5 inning start becomes more prevalent. Think Tink Hence.

Then close it down with power. Do you think throwing 72 percent fastballs will hurt or help the arm/shoulder, simply by less strain from anything curved.

I don't know. They used to discourage use of curveballs with young ( kids) but today's power arms have to be putting a lot of stress on their arms trying to get good movement on their fastball.

[sikeston bulldog2]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

When you are trying to prevent one run, you want a strikeout.

So you are saying the power arm extends into the pen. I mentioned earlier that I saw a stat that Woo threw 70 percent fastballs. Is that possible- did I simply hear wrong.

Woo threw 72% fastball last year. And yes. Guys with power arms and poor secondary pitches become relievers. I believe we are going to start seeing teams use guys with a full arsenal of pitches more and more as the 5 inning start becomes more prevalent. Think Tink Hence.

Then close it down with power. Do you think throwing 72 percent fastballs will hurt or help the arm/shoulder, simply by less strain from anything curved.

I don't know. They used to discourage use of curveballs with young ( kids) but today's power arms have to be putting a lot of stress on their arms trying to get good movement on their fastball.

I’m thinking the curve in any form would stress the elbow? And the heater maybe the shoulder area, or bi and triceps issues.

[Cardinals1964]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

When you are trying to prevent one run, you want a strikeout.

So you are saying the power arm extends into the pen. I mentioned earlier that I saw a stat that Woo threw 70 percent fastballs. Is that possible- did I simply hear wrong.

Woo threw 72% fastball last year. And yes. Guys with power arms and poor secondary pitches become relievers. I believe we are going to start seeing teams use guys with a full arsenal of pitches more and more as the 5 inning start becomes more prevalent. Think Tink Hence.

Where did you get 72%? Am I reading this wrong? It says 47%
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... tching-mlb

[Cardinals1964]

Here’s another good graph with pitch selections. All pitchers.
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderbo ... e=n_&hand=

[2ninr]

From 2021 to 2025, the Cardinals were 29th in K/9 (ahead of only Colorado). That has to change.

Very interesting stat. Any correlation to K/9 and wins?

The top teams in K/9 - Atlanta, Houston, Milwaukee, Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Padres, Philadelphia. All but the Mets in the top 10 on wins.

So, yes.

And the Mets were under achieving. Heres a tough one for ya- correlation of K/9 and wins- with teams with two power arms or more.

How did teams with two power arms do? And does the power arm idea extend into the pen.

When you are trying to prevent one run, you want a strikeout.

So you are saying the power arm extends into the pen. I mentioned earlier that I saw a stat that Woo threw 70 percent fastballs. Is that possible- did I simply hear wrong.

Woo threw 72% fastball last year. And yes. Guys with power arms and poor secondary pitches become relievers. I believe we are going to start seeing teams use guys with a full arsenal of pitches more and more as the 5 inning start becomes more prevalent. Think Tink Hence.

Where did you get 72%? Am I reading this wrong? It says 47%
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... tching-mlb

4 seam and 2 seam, or sinker, combined 72%. 48% 4 seam.