Bloom never stated he had to be 'blown away ' to make a Donovan deal

[scoutyjones2]

So often in the past month or more, media stories on Donovan have a sentence stating Bloom will only trade Donovan if he is blown away by an offer.
The origin of that was reporter Katie Woo , former Cardinal insider now with LA Dodgers , who used that terminology in a report.
As soon as she printed her tweet or whatever, it spread like wildfire throughout the media . Other writers all used Katie's wording though she never claimed that Bloom said that . the 'blown away ' phrase expanded even to CT .
No doubt Bloom wishing a top notch return for Donovan but this 'blown away' may be embellshment . I worry that whatever a final trade would be that the 'blown away' publicity may have Cardinal fans upset .
The 'blown away' mindset giving super high expectations may have many fans citing 'Is that all we got for Donovan ? That return didn't 'blow me ' away at all.... or Geez, why did Bloom accept that . Thought he wanted much more for Donovan than that .

Maybe I am off base and putting too much into the 'blown away' comment by Katie Woo but it seems that phraseology has taken a life of its own in the Donovan situation and maybe has created false higher expectations than it should be .

No matter what happened or what was said some would complain about the return because they fall into one of two categories 1. They overrate and overvalue donovan and believe hes an elite player who should get an elite return or 2. Theyre like goldfan who is going to complain relentlessly no matter what happens if Bloom trades Donovan he will complain that bloom blew it and didn’t get enough for him if he keeps him he will complain and say bloom blew it by demanding too much for him

That's everything on CT

[ScotchMIrish]

So often in the past month or more, media stories on Donovan have a sentence stating Bloom will only trade Donovan if he is blown away by an offer.
The origin of that was reporter Katie Woo , former Cardinal insider now with LA Dodgers , who used that terminology in a report.
As soon as she printed her tweet or whatever, it spread like wildfire throughout the media . Other writers all used Katie's wording though she never claimed that Bloom said that . the 'blown away ' phrase expanded even to CT .
No doubt Bloom wishing a top notch return for Donovan but this 'blown away' may be embellshment . I worry that whatever a final trade would be that the 'blown away' publicity may have Cardinal fans upset .
The 'blown away' mindset giving super high expectations may have many fans citing 'Is that all we got for Donovan ? That return didn't 'blow me ' away at all.... or Geez, why did Bloom accept that . Thought he wanted much more for Donovan than that .

Maybe I am off base and putting too much into the 'blown away' comment by Katie Woo but it seems that phraseology has taken a life of its own in the Donovan situation and maybe has created false higher expectations than it should be .

At the moment it's clear Bloom botched it. Any possibility of an extension is gone now because of the public desire to get rid of Donovan.

[Cusecards]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

Don't see the circumstances for "have to settle". Donovan is the kind of player you keep until someone proffers someone we want more.

Agree
Unlike the other three that were dealt(older vets on downside of careers with high $$ contracts) Donovan is under team control for two seasons at a relatively bargain cost in $$.
So I could see where you’d set a realistic return and based on the time frame look for an “overpay”.
Again....I get that his value might be at a high point but still don’t see the necessity to deal him?
His cost in $$ based on his productivity is a bargain.

That's my sentiment. Worst case, no one proffers what we think he's worth and 2 years from now he won't extend and we decide to offer a QO. But that's after 2 years of a really good player and gets us a draft pick. Settle doesn't appeal to me at all....

Agree
The situation with Donovan(coming? Going?) is pretty low on the list in my opinion.

[zuck698]

So often in the past month or more, media stories on Donovan have a sentence stating Bloom will only trade Donovan if he is blown away by an offer.
The origin of that was reporter Katie Woo , former Cardinal insider now with LA Dodgers , who used that terminology in a report.
As soon as she printed her tweet or whatever, it spread like wildfire throughout the media . Other writers all used Katie's wording though she never claimed that Bloom said that . the 'blown away ' phrase expanded even to CT .
No doubt Bloom wishing a top notch return for Donovan but this 'blown away' may be embellshment . I worry that whatever a final trade would be that the 'blown away' publicity may have Cardinal fans upset .
The 'blown away' mindset giving super high expectations may have many fans citing 'Is that all we got for Donovan ? That return didn't 'blow me ' away at all.... or Geez, why did Bloom accept that . Thought he wanted much more for Donovan than that .

Maybe I am off base and putting too much into the 'blown away' comment by Katie Woo but it seems that phraseology has taken a life of its own in the Donovan situation and maybe has created false higher expectations than it should be .

Everyone should be aware by this point in life that the worst source for information is the media.
Sports "reporting" is no exception.

Really? What's source do you prefer over the media?

Your generalization seems just a bit political.

Politics are not permitted here, so you assumption is incorrect.
With sports reporting, as with all media, the goal is to create clicks, create views.
Regrettably, in today's world, that means being first, being speculative, being unsubstantiated, substituting opinion for fact is not just tolerated, but encouraged.
Which is precisely why, "Bloom must be blown away", becomes "news" - even though is an invention rather than a quote.
So, a wise person such as I must always ignore and filter nearly everything that comes from media sources and wait for events and facts to be revealed over time.

In other words don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see.

Pretty much.
Wait for events to take place - and then wait for the details of those events to come into focus.
Except, of course, when reading my posts.
My analysis, whether forward looking or backward looking, are always based on available facts, free of bias, free of agenda, and the most trustworthy that can be found anywhere, anytime, from anyone.

You forgot that "it is never about you" as well. Just messing with you Mel...

[renostl]

So often in the past month or more, media stories on Donovan have a sentence stating Bloom will only trade Donovan if he is blown away by an offer.
The origin of that was reporter Katie Woo , former Cardinal insider now with LA Dodgers , who used that terminology in a report.
As soon as she printed her tweet or whatever, it spread like wildfire throughout the media . Other writers all used Katie's wording though she never claimed that Bloom said that . the 'blown away ' phrase expanded even to CT .
No doubt Bloom wishing a top notch return for Donovan but this 'blown away' may be embellshment . I worry that whatever a final trade would be that the 'blown away' publicity may have Cardinal fans upset .
The 'blown away' mindset giving super high expectations may have many fans citing 'Is that all we got for Donovan ? That return didn't 'blow me ' away at all.... or Geez, why did Bloom accept that . Thought he wanted much more for Donovan than that .

Maybe I am off base and putting too much into the 'blown away' comment by Katie Woo but it seems that phraseology has taken a life of its own in the Donovan situation and maybe has created false higher expectations than it should be .

Everyone should be aware by this point in life that the worst source for information is the media.
Sports "reporting" is no exception.

Really? What's source do you prefer over the media?

Your generalization seems just a bit political.

Politics are not permitted here, so you assumption is incorrect.
With sports reporting, as with all media, the goal is to create clicks, create views.
Regrettably, in today's world, that means being first, being speculative, being unsubstantiated, substituting opinion for fact is not just tolerated, but encouraged.
Which is precisely why, "Bloom must be blown away", becomes "news" - even though it is an invention rather than a quote.
So, a wise person such as I must always ignore and filter nearly everything that comes from media sources and wait for events and facts to be revealed over time.

It is also nonspecific and subjective with zero accountability.

The kind of comment that would get a poster here ridiculed gets
embraced because of being a preferred source?

Blown away by the return in a Donovan trade needs to be calibrated to
Donovan and not Skubal.

[Melville]

Bloom did say this on Sunday talking about Donovan.
Blown away? Maybe not. Really high value? Certainly.

"Those mentions are obviously understandable given just where we are and the things that we have been doing," Bloom said. "Obviously the player, the person. Everybody has heard me say all of the wonderful things that I have to say about him and none of those have obviously changed on-field/off-field. He's everything you'd want to have in your uniform. That's why we're placing a really high value on him and also doing our jobs and listening.

“obviously we'd place a pretty high price tag, given all of those things that I said about the player he is and how much he means to us.”

A direct quote.
Now THAT is reporting.

[Melville]

So often in the past month or more, media stories on Donovan have a sentence stating Bloom will only trade Donovan if he is blown away by an offer.
The origin of that was reporter Katie Woo , former Cardinal insider now with LA Dodgers , who used that terminology in a report.
As soon as she printed her tweet or whatever, it spread like wildfire throughout the media . Other writers all used Katie's wording though she never claimed that Bloom said that . the 'blown away ' phrase expanded even to CT .
No doubt Bloom wishing a top notch return for Donovan but this 'blown away' may be embellshment . I worry that whatever a final trade would be that the 'blown away' publicity may have Cardinal fans upset .
The 'blown away' mindset giving super high expectations may have many fans citing 'Is that all we got for Donovan ? That return didn't 'blow me ' away at all.... or Geez, why did Bloom accept that . Thought he wanted much more for Donovan than that .

Maybe I am off base and putting too much into the 'blown away' comment by Katie Woo but it seems that phraseology has taken a life of its own in the Donovan situation and maybe has created false higher expectations than it should be .

Everyone should be aware by this point in life that the worst source for information is the media.
Sports "reporting" is no exception.

Really? What's source do you prefer over the media?

Your generalization seems just a bit political.

Politics are not permitted here, so you assumption is incorrect.
With sports reporting, as with all media, the goal is to create clicks, create views.
Regrettably, in today's world, that means being first, being speculative, being unsubstantiated, substituting opinion for fact is not just tolerated, but encouraged.
Which is precisely why, "Bloom must be blown away", becomes "news" - even though is an invention rather than a quote.
So, a wise person such as I must always ignore and filter nearly everything that comes from media sources and wait for events and facts to be revealed over time.

In other words don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see.

Pretty much.
Wait for events to take place - and then wait for the details of those events to come into focus.
Except, of course, when reading my posts.
My analysis, whether forward looking or backward looking, are always based on available facts, free of bias, free of agenda, and the most trustworthy that can be found anywhere, anytime, from anyone.

You forgot that "it is never about you" as well. Just messing with you Mel...

That's a good catch!

[Hoosier59]

Whatever Bloom may or may not have said about trading Donovan, he obviously hasn’t received the package he desired for him.
I think it’s fairly clear Donovan assumed he was going to be traded by the fact he wasn’t at Winter Warm Up. He was always there before and one of the most popular players there.
Now it sounds like Bloom is trying to cover his behind by the things he’s saying about how important Donovan is to the team. Especially with Donovan being named the 4th best 2nd baseman in the game by MLB.
There is still time for a deal to come about, but the whole situation just seems odd!

[Melville]

So often in the past month or more, media stories on Donovan have a sentence stating Bloom will only trade Donovan if he is blown away by an offer.
The origin of that was reporter Katie Woo , former Cardinal insider now with LA Dodgers , who used that terminology in a report.
As soon as she printed her tweet or whatever, it spread like wildfire throughout the media . Other writers all used Katie's wording though she never claimed that Bloom said that . the 'blown away ' phrase expanded even to CT .
No doubt Bloom wishing a top notch return for Donovan but this 'blown away' may be embellshment . I worry that whatever a final trade would be that the 'blown away' publicity may have Cardinal fans upset .
The 'blown away' mindset giving super high expectations may have many fans citing 'Is that all we got for Donovan ? That return didn't 'blow me ' away at all.... or Geez, why did Bloom accept that . Thought he wanted much more for Donovan than that .

Maybe I am off base and putting too much into the 'blown away' comment by Katie Woo but it seems that phraseology has taken a life of its own in the Donovan situation and maybe has created false higher expectations than it should be .

Question for Woo.
Was Bloom "blown away"?
Or was this move more of a nice little breeze?

[ramfandan]

First , couple reprorts See my post on Sports Illlustraded writer and in same thread post the 'report card ' from CBS Sports Cardinals Grade A
Mariners B

We shall see how others in media view the final deal but early returns show very positive towards Cardinals getting a substantial return ..
guess much more than a nice little breeze according to their evaluations.

Saw another take Seattle (A/B) with Cardinals B+

Another may have summed it up best ... All the teams in this deal came out strong and got what they wanted in this trade.

[VegasSully]

First , couple reprorts See my post on Sports Illlustraded writer and in same thread post the 'report card ' from CBS Sports Cardinals Grade A
Mariners B

We shall see how others in media view the final deal but early returns show very positive towards Cardinals getting a substantial return ..
guess much more than a nice little breeze according to their evaluations.

Could it be that posters on CT overreacted and were overly negative?

[ramfandan]

First , couple reprorts See my post on Sports Illlustraded writer and in same thread post the 'report card ' from CBS Sports Cardinals Grade A
Mariners B

We shall see how others in media view the final deal but early returns show very positive towards Cardinals getting a substantial return ..
guess much more than a nice little breeze according to their evaluations.

Could it be that posters on CT overreacted and were overly negative?

One thing that certainly happened was the FULL DETAILS of the trade were NOT released in the very beginning . At first , it sounded like Cardinals got 2 players from Seattle for Donovan , then the Ledbetter name came along a bit later, and much later then the fact that Cardinals were receiving the extra draft picks ( Even that was confusing to many , including myself , as it first sounded like one pick 70th then it was 68th Seattle and 72nd Rays .
So long story short, posters were reacting to incomplete info initially . That could account for possible overreaction .