11 pitchers

[billybaseball]

From the trade deadline to the Donovan trade today, the Cardinals have added 11 pitchers through trade. Add to the fact Hjerpe is coming back. Doyle and Franklin are also coming in. That's a whole lot of high upside pitching being injected into our system.

[rightthinker4]

From the trade deadline to the Donovan trade today, the Cardinals have added 11 pitchers through trade. Add to the fact Hjerpe is coming back. Doyle and Franklin are also coming in. That's a whole lot of high upside pitching being injected into our system.

With prospects you never know.

[Carp4Cy]

And yet only one can be a game at a time. And only so many can even fit on a roster.

I sure hope Bloom pivots to rebuilding the lineup soon.

[Hoosier59]

From the trade deadline to the Donovan trade today, the Cardinals have added 11 pitchers through trade. Add to the fact Hjerpe is coming back. Doyle and Franklin are also coming in. That's a whole lot of high upside pitching being injected into our system.

That’s a lot of pitching, but “ high upside “ might be exaggerating just a bit.

[billybaseball]

From the trade deadline to the Donovan trade today, the Cardinals have added 11 pitchers through trade. Add to the fact Hjerpe is coming back. Doyle and Franklin are also coming in. That's a whole lot of high upside pitching being injected into our system.

That’s a lot of pitching, but “ high upside “ might be exaggerating just a bit.

Clark, Cijnte, Fajardo, Hjerpe, Doyle and Franklin aren't high upside pitchers?

[Cusecards]

I understand the skepticism.
But....it is probably easier to deal pitching for hitting than vice versa?
Count me in as looking forward to the changes beginning in 2026.

[BrockFloodMaris]

From the trade deadline to the Donovan trade today, the Cardinals have added 11 pitchers through trade. Add to the fact Hjerpe is coming back. Doyle and Franklin are also coming in. That's a whole lot of high upside pitching being injected into our system.

With prospects you never know.

That’s why you need to collect as many high ceiling pitchers as possible. Getting those kids to MLB is a game of chance.

[Ozziesfan41]

I understand the skepticism.
But....it is probably easier to deal pitching for hitting than vice versa?
Count me in as looking forward to the changes beginning in 2026.

+1 pitching is gold and if you have a cost controlled rotation and not Having to over pay for non aces like gray and mediocrity like mikolas Gibson and Lynn then you can spend on offense and trade excess pitching for hitters you need

[Cusecards]

I understand the skepticism.
But....it is probably easier to deal pitching for hitting than vice versa?
Count me in as looking forward to the changes beginning in 2026.

+1 pitching is gold and if you have a cost controlled rotation and not Having to over pay for non aces like gray and mediocrity like mikolas Gibson and Lynn then you can spend on offense and trade excess pitching for hitters you need

Agree
The Cards definitely have some holes in their lineup.
And 2026 could be make or break for a few position players.
But....in general I’d feel more confident looking for hitting as opposed to pitching next offseason.

[Jatalk]

From the trade deadline to the Donovan trade today, the Cardinals have added 11 pitchers through trade. Add to the fact Hjerpe is coming back. Doyle and Franklin are also coming in. That's a whole lot of high upside pitching being injected into our system.

They better pitch well because we sure haven’t done anything to help the offense.

[Cardinals1964]

And yet only one can be a game at a time. And only so many can even fit on a roster.

I sure hope Bloom pivots to rebuilding the lineup soon.

He has. He opened up 1500 plate appearances to see what the young guys can do.

[Cardinals1964]

I understand the skepticism.
But....it is probably easier to deal pitching for hitting than vice versa?
Count me in as looking forward to the changes beginning in 2026.

+1 pitching is gold and if you have a cost controlled rotation and not Having to over pay for non aces like gray and mediocrity like mikolas Gibson and Lynn then you can spend on offense and trade excess pitching for hitters you need

Agree
The Cards definitely have some holes in their lineup.
And 2026 could be make or break for a few position players.
But....in general I’d feel more confident looking for hitting as opposed to pitching next offseason.

Agreed. 1500 plate appearances opened up. You know, Contreras, Arenado and Donovan weren’t the future. So, let’s see what we have. Fill in the blanks later.

[Cardinals1964]

From the trade deadline to the Donovan trade today, the Cardinals have added 11 pitchers through trade. Add to the fact Hjerpe is coming back. Doyle and Franklin are also coming in. That's a whole lot of high upside pitching being injected into our system.

They better pitch well because we sure haven’t done anything to help the offense.

Boo hoo. Cry me a river. My team not going to win in 2026. When is the last time they won? Did you cry every year?

[Cusecards]

I understand the skepticism.
But....it is probably easier to deal pitching for hitting than vice versa?
Count me in as looking forward to the changes beginning in 2026.

+1 pitching is gold and if you have a cost controlled rotation and not Having to over pay for non aces like gray and mediocrity like mikolas Gibson and Lynn then you can spend on offense and trade excess pitching for hitters you need

Agree
The Cards definitely have some holes in their lineup.
And 2026 could be make or break for a few position players.
But....in general I’d feel more confident looking for hitting as opposed to pitching next offseason.

Agreed. 1500 plate appearances opened up. You know, Contreras, Arenado and Donovan weren’t the future. So, let’s see what we have. Fill in the blanks later.

+1
Baby steps!

[Cardinals1964]

I understand the skepticism.
But....it is probably easier to deal pitching for hitting than vice versa?
Count me in as looking forward to the changes beginning in 2026.

+1 pitching is gold and if you have a cost controlled rotation and not Having to over pay for non aces like gray and mediocrity like mikolas Gibson and Lynn then you can spend on offense and trade excess pitching for hitters you need

Agree
The Cards definitely have some holes in their lineup.
And 2026 could be make or break for a few position players.
But....in general I’d feel more confident looking for hitting as opposed to pitching next offseason.

Agreed. 1500 plate appearances opened up. You know, Contreras, Arenado and Donovan weren’t the future. So, let’s see what we have. Fill in the blanks later.

+1
Baby steps!

I think it’s giant steps compared to the past. I’m still laughing that people thought we could get Montes straight up for Donovan. That Montes wouldn’t be enough. .

[Carp4Cy]

And yet only one can be a game at a time. And only so many can even fit on a roster.

I sure hope Bloom pivots to rebuilding the lineup soon.

He has. He opened up 1500 plate appearances to see what the young guys can do.

This group? They haven't lacked for enough chances. Some of them lack for enough talent.

Everyone of them has more than a complete season, and most have 3.

Gorman - 426 Games 3.5 career WAR 99 OPS+
Walker - 279 G, -2.7 WAR 88OPS+
Nootbaar - 527 G, 9.3 Career WAR. 109 OPS+ OK that looks decent on paper, but which was is he trending?
Herrera - 203 G, 4 WAR, 127 OPS+ - does he build on this and become a true plus player or is 19 HRs his ceiling?
Burly - 414 G, 2.2 career WAR
Winn - 316 G, 6.5 WAR, outstanding rookie year - have to reasonably assume there's more upside there.
Scott - 191 G, 2.2 WAR 64 OPS+
Pages - 180 G, 2.2 WAR