Logan Mailloux

[theograce]

[theograce]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

[Atlantis17A]

If you want to play the statistics game, he has averaged 14.48 minutes in his last 5 games.

[Bluesfan1978]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

[theograce]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

You left off the 6th game where he was in the 10’s. What I said was accurate … don’t get upset

[Bluesfan1978]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

You left off the 6th game where he was in the 10’s. What I said was accurate … don’t get upset

If you are going to keep going add a few games, the average will be close to 15 mins over the last 10 games.

[Bluesfan1978]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

You left off the 6th game where he was in the 10’s. What I said was accurate … don’t get upset

15:01 over the last 10 games

[theograce]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

You left off the 6th game where he was in the 10’s. What I said was accurate … don’t get upset

If you are going to keep going add a few games, the average will be close to 15 mins over the last 10 games.

There’s lots of games of late and throughout the year where he’s not coming close to 15 minutes a night. Just recently 10 and 12. 15 minutes is not good. It doesn’t indicate trust…especially when you’re on a backend that isn’t good.

10 and 12 minute games are a joke for a Dman

[MiamiLaw]

Pro
1. Improvement is better than not improvement
2. As you say there's lots of projects going on so it's a throwaway season so of all times to learn, throwaway seasons at least it's not his fault

Con
1. we are talking about improvement from an abysmal baseline (see Kyrou, Jordan) and the improvement is still openly inadequate
2. more continued misjudgment from the front office on NHL defense in a situation where everyone correctly doubts them (they expected much better than whatever this still is)

100% couldn’t say it much better

thanks I almost referenced this summer's podcasting blues universe optimism that all homers jumped on. I was going to mention the Pronger thing because, while it's a hilarious self caricature of a homer comment to say that, I felt like it was in the rearview mirror

Nope, that is still around. dear lord, just a few posts up ... the pro Mailloux side just isn't trustworthy

Yea I feel the homer in people are causing them to see something that isn’t there. Yes Mailloux has improved because he almost literally had nowhere to go but up. He was statistically the worst player in the league for about half the season. Anyone who says this is the guy who the Blues thought they were getting is either lying to us or lying to themselves.

He did have a relatively strong rush later in the game last night where he skated out of trouble behind the net which was noticeable because I hadn’t seen much of it. It didn’t amount to anything but it was at least something.

Could he end up being a decent player? Sure. But this year has not done much to add any certainty to that in my opinion.

[Bluesfan1978]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

You left off the 6th game where he was in the 10’s. What I said was accurate … don’t get upset

If you are going to keep going add a few games, the average will be close to 15 mins over the last 10 games.

There’s lots of games of late and throughout the year where he’s not coming close to 15 minutes a night. Just recently 10 and 12. 15 minutes is not good. It doesn’t indicate trust…especially when you’re on a backend that isn’t good.

10 and 12 minute games are a joke for a Dman

15 mins a game last 10 games. Was put on the ice to try and tie the game with a minute to go. Coach must see some improvement.

[Bacchk29]

The issue was never if Mailloux was a project. That’s known. Did we get enough for a former first round pick recently st that. The answer is still no. Unfortunately Mailloux’s play is under a magnifying glass.

[theograce]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

You left off the 6th game where he was in the 10’s. What I said was accurate … don’t get upset

If you are going to keep going add a few games, the average will be close to 15 mins over the last 10 games.

There’s lots of games of late and throughout the year where he’s not coming close to 15 minutes a night. Just recently 10 and 12. 15 minutes is not good. It doesn’t indicate trust…especially when you’re on a backend that isn’t good.

10 and 12 minute games are a joke for a Dman

15 mins a game last 10 games. Was put on the ice to try and tie the game with a minute to go. Coach must see some improvement.

It’s like you don’t understand atoi vs per game.

It’s an important distinction when looking at a player like this and realizing there are many, many games (including recently) where his playing time was nowhere close to his atoi. That raises a lot of red flags. Hope that helps.

[wiscrev]

ASSOGG, I stopped reading at "rest of the hockey world". That's outright dishonest. He was an AHL All-Star. Last I looked AHL was a significant part of the "hockey world".

I actually stopped reading at ASSOGG. Mainly cause he's blocked.

It's best to have him on ignore. More peace and quiet that way. And THANK YOU for not quoting him.

[Bluesfan1978]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

You left off the 6th game where he was in the 10’s. What I said was accurate … don’t get upset

If you are going to keep going add a few games, the average will be close to 15 mins over the last 10 games.

There’s lots of games of late and throughout the year where he’s not coming close to 15 minutes a night. Just recently 10 and 12. 15 minutes is not good. It doesn’t indicate trust…especially when you’re on a backend that isn’t good.

10 and 12 minute games are a joke for a Dman

15 mins a game last 10 games. Was put on the ice to try and tie the game with a minute to go. Coach must see some improvement.

It’s like you don’t understand atoi vs per game.

It’s an important distinction when looking at a player like this and realizing there are many, many games (including recently) where his playing time was nowhere close to his atoi. That raises a lot of red flags. Hope that helps.

4 shifts in the last 10 mins of the game last night. Last shift he was on the ice until 45 seconds to go. At 1:20 left made a defensive play to stop a goal and then rushed the puck up the ice.
ATOI is how you see how a player is trending
I don't need your tips I can promise you that
Improvement isn't linear
No matter how he started the year he's showing improvement. The coach has said so when interviewed, His increase in ice time is reflecting that. Being on the ice with a minute to go in a game is a pat on the back

[theograce]

He was on the ice with a Minute to go last night to try and tie the game. He's also been getting close to 15 mins a night vs 8-10 earlier in the year.

He’s had 10 and 12 and 14 minute games in his past 6

So no, not close to 15 mins a night

Last 5 games
16:16
12:06 This game had several PP's & PK's
14:16
16:39
14:48
Pretty close to 15 mins a night
Is that not close to 15 mins a night to you?
Or do you always just give a 1/2 effort to check your info?

You left off the 6th game where he was in the 10’s. What I said was accurate … don’t get upset

If you are going to keep going add a few games, the average will be close to 15 mins over the last 10 games.

There’s lots of games of late and throughout the year where he’s not coming close to 15 minutes a night. Just recently 10 and 12. 15 minutes is not good. It doesn’t indicate trust…especially when you’re on a backend that isn’t good.

10 and 12 minute games are a joke for a Dman

15 mins a game last 10 games. Was put on the ice to try and tie the game with a minute to go. Coach must see some improvement.

It’s like you don’t understand atoi vs per game.

It’s an important distinction when looking at a player like this and realizing there are many, many games (including recently) where his playing time was nowhere close to his atoi. That raises a lot of red flags. Hope that helps.

4 shifts in the last 10 mins of the game last night. Last shift he was on the ice until 45 seconds to go. At 1:20 left made a defensive play to stop a goal and then rushed the puck up the ice.
ATOI is how you see how a player is trending
I don't need your tips I can promise you that
Improvement isn't linear
No matter how he started the year he's showing improvement. The coach has said so when interviewed, His increase in ice time is reflecting that. Being on the ice with a minute to go in a game is a pat on the back

I’ve explained it to you. There are many nights (including recently where he’s nowhere close to 15. Why do you think that is? Giving him a break … working too hard?

[dhsux]

Admittedly a fan and definitely try to follow his play as close as I can. I know he has his detractors here as well so I thought I'd ask how every one thinks he is working out.

Breaking his 49 games down on just +/- it goes...... first 13 games -12, next 14 games -8 and last 13 games -3 at 14.44 mpg.

For the 13 Jan games here's the D core comparison:
Faulk +2
Fowler -1
Broberg +2
CP -2
Tucker -1
Mailloux -3

Plus/minus is fallible and always debated but for me I've seen definite progress in his play that correlates very close to what these numbers say. Basically IMO the progress in his defensive play has correlated with these numbers and spells, IMO, good things to come.

His offense has been disappointing. OK...stat-wise bad. 1 assist in 13 games. 4 shots. It's very odd to me, I think he has a strong passing game, a good shot, he seems to make the right decisions and he's not fumbling the puck creating turnovers. He's not some problem in the Ozone. I am convinced he's deliberately playing a cautious nearly timid offensive game, overly focusing on his defensive responsibilities and pretty much to his offensive detriment. And further, I'm pretty sure he is doing this correctly for the now. I think his offensive skills are there for the taking once he gets settled in with more experience on both ends.

I do view Mailloux as a project but keep in mind with the way this team has played this year there's about a dozen other projects out there on the ice as well which has likely not helped him out too much.

Can't say for sure but for me, I'd put it 80/20 the Blues have their top 4 RHD guy they were looking for.

Great assessment, thanks for puttin in the work.

There’s not a doubt in my mind he’s progressing and is passin the eye test defensively, but Im also disappointed in his offense to date. But there’s also not a doubt in my mind that the coaches are actively havin him concentrate on his D exclusively almost. Like I keep saying, it’s all about the process.

You can see how good he skates, and you can see how hard he shoots, and you can see he gets it on net too, and you can see his passes are usually sharp, I still feel like itll all come together and he’ll be a nice physical Top 4 D by time he hits the magical 200 game mark.

Its been less than 50 games, and he’s made noticeable progress, to say otherwise is simply wrong. As much (bleep) as he’s been dealt simply for bein traded for some people’s fetishboy Bokduc who’s still a below 20 goal scorer a season, I hope he keeps improving and showin the impatient crowd he’ll be an asset in sue time.

Thanks to all but one of you for the responses.

I'm pleased with most all of the responses here aside from the usual de-railer who turns everything into his effed up jumbled up totally confused anti DA agenda. He started off ok but then immediately just gave in to his lesser angel.

I'm wide open to the few comments doubting this player, that's fair game.

But the 13 games played in January he is, by the +/- evaluation anyway, hanging with peers who have tons of years and hundreds of games under their belt,on a losing team, indeed says something.

My feeling is the experience factor will come for this kid, and something will pop, and these kinds of threads will be fun to look back upon.

A few of the positive criticisms have been great. More asserting physical play, more punishing body. Mean streak. Join the rush more.

Thanks all.