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Re: News from Seattle

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craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:20 am
Youboughtit wrote: 31 Jan 2026 08:58 am
kyace wrote: 30 Jan 2026 23:19 pm They just lost their planned #6 starter. Evans had TJ surgery and is out all 2026. They are really thin beyond their starting five. They brought in some pitchers off waivers and minor league free agents to have some depth. Anderson was just drafted and hasn’t played any pro ball yet. Sloan is several years out and so is Cijntje. They had planned on Hancock for the bullpen this year.
This may be a time for the Cards to add a starter to a Donovan deal to get what they want from Seattle. Maybe one of the pitchers they got from Boston could be included or use a third team looking for a catcher or reliever to get a pitcher to include in a deal.
Would the Cards add Mathews to a Seattle deal to get Sloan back? He would give the Mariners a near ready left handed starter that they could throw into the rotation if needed. Sloan fits the Cardinals timeline and would give them a right handed power pitcher with Ace potential. Mathews is closer to the majors but doesn’t have as a high of a ceiling. Mariners could live with that as they have others at the top and Anderson a year or two away. They could use a left handed starter especially one as close as Mathews is to be a middle of the rotation starter.
Sloan is ready and better than any SP the Cardinals could send them
Say What?

Sloan has all of 11 innings at High A. He's ready for North Little Rock at best in the Texas League.
Who are you sending them? Unless it’s Libertore or McGreevy they have better option and tons of FA available

Emerson Hancock: Transitioned to a relief role but remains a top starting option.
Dane Dunning: Signed a minor league deal in January 2026, offering significant MLB experience (102 starts).
Cooper Criswell: Acquired from the Mets in January 2026 to provide experienced "swingman" depth, capable of starting or relieving
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Re: News from Seattle

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:28 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:22 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 06:13 am BTV

Sloan 27
Anderson 31.2

for

Donovan 30.7
Liberatore 14.9
Romero 6.3
? (Pages or Crooks are both about 8-9)
the numbers align on paper, but the stingiest team in the MLB won't part with their best arms...arguably both are Top 10 best arms in the majors.
I would agree that it is hard to imagine Seattle giving up that much in SP prospects in one deal.
But. Wouldn’t Libby replace their Anderson. Sloan unproven. Injury away from a bust. This is a good deal for Seattle. Very safe.
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Re: News from Seattle

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:lol: next in line...lots of depth :roll:

The Mariners had viewed Evans as their No. 6 or 7 starter for this season. He proved valuable in that role last season with three of the Mariners regular starters — Logan Gilbert, George Kirby and Bryce Miller — all missing time with injury. In 15 starts and one relief appearance at the MLB level last season, Evans posted a 6-5 record with a 4.32 ERA.

With Evans unavailable, the Mariners will look to right-handers Emerson Hancock (31 MLB starts), Dane Dunning (102 MLB starts) and Cooper Criswell (21 MLB starts) as their starting depth. All three have MLB starting experience with varying levels of success.

“They will need to be capable if one of the first five guys is down,” Hollander said. “They’ve all done it before.”
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Re: News from Seattle

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Youboughtit wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:40 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:20 am
Youboughtit wrote: 31 Jan 2026 08:58 am
kyace wrote: 30 Jan 2026 23:19 pm They just lost their planned #6 starter. Evans had TJ surgery and is out all 2026. They are really thin beyond their starting five. They brought in some pitchers off waivers and minor league free agents to have some depth. Anderson was just drafted and hasn’t played any pro ball yet. Sloan is several years out and so is Cijntje. They had planned on Hancock for the bullpen this year.
This may be a time for the Cards to add a starter to a Donovan deal to get what they want from Seattle. Maybe one of the pitchers they got from Boston could be included or use a third team looking for a catcher or reliever to get a pitcher to include in a deal.
Would the Cards add Mathews to a Seattle deal to get Sloan back? He would give the Mariners a near ready left handed starter that they could throw into the rotation if needed. Sloan fits the Cardinals timeline and would give them a right handed power pitcher with Ace potential. Mathews is closer to the majors but doesn’t have as a high of a ceiling. Mariners could live with that as they have others at the top and Anderson a year or two away. They could use a left handed starter especially one as close as Mathews is to be a middle of the rotation starter.
Sloan is ready and better than any SP the Cardinals could send them
Say What?

Sloan has all of 11 innings at High A. He's ready for North Little Rock at best in the Texas League.
Who are you sending them? Unless it’s Libertore or McGreevy they have better option and tons of FA available

Emerson Hancock: Transitioned to a relief role but remains a top starting option.
Dane Dunning: Signed a minor league deal in January 2026, offering significant MLB experience (102 starts).
Cooper Criswell: Acquired from the Mets in January 2026 to provide experienced "swingman" depth, capable of starting or relieving
I never entertained a thought on that trade. The only time I thought of Sloan was Donovan for Sloan back in November/December...and that was when I saw the Montes and/or Cijntje for Donovan trade...and those two names seriously underwhelmed me...projection wise at least.

We're not getting Anderson....unless we can give them Doyle by some sort of trickery. I'd take Anderson for Doyle everyday of the week....and we'd have to throw in a Nootbaar or Burleson to get it done.

It's moot anyways....Seattle isn't giving up Sloan nor Anderson.
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Re: News from Seattle

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:40 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:28 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:22 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 06:13 am BTV

Sloan 27
Anderson 31.2

for

Donovan 30.7
Liberatore 14.9
Romero 6.3
? (Pages or Crooks are both about 8-9)
the numbers align on paper, but the stingiest team in the MLB won't part with their best arms...arguably both are Top 10 best arms in the majors.
I would agree that it is hard to imagine Seattle giving up that much in SP prospects in one deal.
But. Wouldn’t Libby replace their Anderson. Sloan unproven. Injury away from a bust. This is a good deal for Seattle. Very safe.
No....and the Mariners need a severe penalty if they traded Libby for Anderson straight up.
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Re: News from Seattle

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Good

Not about the injury

But I want a HITTER back in any package for Donny, NOT another pitcher.
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Re: News from Seattle

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rockondlouie wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:11 am Good

Not about the injury

But I want a HITTER back in any package for Donny, NOT another pitcher.
Agreed. In my opinion, Seattle isn't a good fit as a trading partner.
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Re: News from Seattle

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hugeCardfan wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:28 am
rockondlouie wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:11 am Good

Not about the injury

But I want a HITTER back in any package for Donny, NOT another pitcher.
Agreed. In my opinion, Seattle isn't a good fit as a trading partner.
Agreed huge

Unless we were getting B. Woo (HA! ::crazya:: ), I was never in on the M's since they can't afford to give away good hitting prospects.

Pitchers are great to draft and acquire but they also represent a HUGE injury risk (Re: Hence, "Q", Roby...etal).

I want a hitting prospect for Donny, one ready to make the jump to MLB this season.

I also think this is why he hasn't been dealt yet because that's Bloom's asking price and he's 100% right.
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Re: News from Seattle

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rockondlouie wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:11 am Good

Not about the injury

But I want a HITTER back in any package for Donny, NOT another pitcher.
They just need as many good players as they can get.
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Re: News from Seattle

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alw80 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:31 am
rockondlouie wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:11 am Good

Not about the injury

But I want a HITTER back in any package for Donny, NOT another pitcher.
They just need as many good players as they can get.
Sure

But it's now time to use the Cardinals best trade chip to land a prospect who's a HITTER! :wink:
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Re: News from Seattle

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craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:22 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 06:13 am BTV

Sloan 27
Anderson 31.2

for

Donovan 30.7
Liberatore 14.9
Romero 6.3
? (Pages or Crooks are both about 8-9)
the numbers align on paper, but the stingiest team in the MLB won't part with their best arms...arguably both are Top 10 best arms in the majors.
Yep, Seattle seems to horde prospects and who can blame them.

In the scenario below, they would not have to surrender their top arm Anderson or top bat Montes. Numbers align. We get the high potential arm and a mlb ready RH bat, albeit not the top flight slugger. Just don’t think we were ever going to get that for a package headlined by Donny:

Donny (30.7) + Libby(14.9)

Sloan (27) + Michael Arroyo (18.1)
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Re: News from Seattle

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craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:40 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:28 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:22 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 06:13 am BTV

Sloan 27
Anderson 31.2

for

Donovan 30.7
Liberatore 14.9
Romero 6.3
? (Pages or Crooks are both about 8-9)
the numbers align on paper, but the stingiest team in the MLB won't part with their best arms...arguably both are Top 10 best arms in the majors.
I would agree that it is hard to imagine Seattle giving up that much in SP prospects in one deal.
But. Wouldn’t Libby replace their Anderson. Sloan unproven. Injury away from a bust. This is a good deal for Seattle. Very safe.
No....and the Mariners need a severe penalty if they traded Libby for Anderson straight up.
15 yards and loss of down or 10 minute major? 8)
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Re: News from Seattle

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AnExParrot wrote: 31 Jan 2026 11:03 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:40 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:28 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:22 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 06:13 am BTV

Sloan 27
Anderson 31.2

for

Donovan 30.7
Liberatore 14.9
Romero 6.3
? (Pages or Crooks are both about 8-9)
the numbers align on paper, but the stingiest team in the MLB won't part with their best arms...arguably both are Top 10 best arms in the majors.
I would agree that it is hard to imagine Seattle giving up that much in SP prospects in one deal.
But. Wouldn’t Libby replace their Anderson. Sloan unproven. Injury away from a bust. This is a good deal for Seattle. Very safe.
No....and the Mariners need a severe penalty if they traded Libby for Anderson straight up.
15 yards and loss of down or 10 minute major? 8)
are those severe enough? :lol:
Last edited by craviduce on 31 Jan 2026 11:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: News from Seattle

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craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 11:05 am
AnExParrot wrote: 31 Jan 2026 11:03 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:40 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:28 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:22 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 06:13 am BTV

Sloan 27
Anderson 31.2

for

Donovan 30.7
Liberatore 14.9
Romero 6.3
? (Pages or Crooks are both about 8-9)
the numbers align on paper, but the stingiest team in the MLB won't part with their best arms...arguably both are Top 10 best arms in the majors.
I would agree that it is hard to imagine Seattle giving up that much in SP prospects in one deal.
But. Wouldn’t Libby replace their Anderson. Sloan unproven. Injury away from a bust. This is a good deal for Seattle. Very safe.
No....and the Mariners need a severe penalty if they traded Libby for Anderson straight up.
15 yards and loss of down or 10 minute major? 8)
are those sever enough? :lol:
:lol:
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Re: News from Seattle

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AnExParrot wrote: 31 Jan 2026 11:13 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 11:05 am
AnExParrot wrote: 31 Jan 2026 11:03 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:40 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:28 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:22 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 31 Jan 2026 06:13 am BTV

Sloan 27
Anderson 31.2

for

Donovan 30.7
Liberatore 14.9
Romero 6.3
? (Pages or Crooks are both about 8-9)
the numbers align on paper, but the stingiest team in the MLB won't part with their best arms...arguably both are Top 10 best arms in the majors.
I would agree that it is hard to imagine Seattle giving up that much in SP prospects in one deal.
But. Wouldn’t Libby replace their Anderson. Sloan unproven. Injury away from a bust. This is a good deal for Seattle. Very safe.
No....and the Mariners need a severe penalty if they traded Libby for Anderson straight up.
15 yards and loss of down or 10 minute major? 8)
are those sever enough? :lol:
:lol:
Nice.
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Re: News from Seattle

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craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 10:08 am
Youboughtit wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:40 am
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2026 09:20 am
Youboughtit wrote: 31 Jan 2026 08:58 am
kyace wrote: 30 Jan 2026 23:19 pm They just lost their planned #6 starter. Evans had TJ surgery and is out all 2026. They are really thin beyond their starting five. They brought in some pitchers off waivers and minor league free agents to have some depth. Anderson was just drafted and hasn’t played any pro ball yet. Sloan is several years out and so is Cijntje. They had planned on Hancock for the bullpen this year.
This may be a time for the Cards to add a starter to a Donovan deal to get what they want from Seattle. Maybe one of the pitchers they got from Boston could be included or use a third team looking for a catcher or reliever to get a pitcher to include in a deal.
Would the Cards add Mathews to a Seattle deal to get Sloan back? He would give the Mariners a near ready left handed starter that they could throw into the rotation if needed. Sloan fits the Cardinals timeline and would give them a right handed power pitcher with Ace potential. Mathews is closer to the majors but doesn’t have as a high of a ceiling. Mariners could live with that as they have others at the top and Anderson a year or two away. They could use a left handed starter especially one as close as Mathews is to be a middle of the rotation starter.
Sloan is ready and better than any SP the Cardinals could send them
Say What?

Sloan has all of 11 innings at High A. He's ready for North Little Rock at best in the Texas League.
Who are you sending them? Unless it’s Libertore or McGreevy they have better option and tons of FA available

Emerson Hancock: Transitioned to a relief role but remains a top starting option.
Dane Dunning: Signed a minor league deal in January 2026, offering significant MLB experience (102 starts).
Cooper Criswell: Acquired from the Mets in January 2026 to provide experienced "swingman" depth, capable of starting or relieving
I never entertained a thought on that trade. The only time I thought of Sloan was Donovan for Sloan back in November/December...and that was when I saw the Montes and/or Cijntje for Donovan trade...and those two names seriously underwhelmed me...projection wise at least.

We're not getting Anderson....unless we can give them Doyle by some sort of trickery. I'd take Anderson for Doyle everyday of the week....and we'd have to throw in a Nootbaar or Burleson to get it done.

It's moot anyways....Seattle isn't giving up Sloan nor Anderson.
Montes should be the asking price imo. RH OF power bat