Bloom never stated he had to be 'blown away ' to make a Donovan deal

[ramfandan]

So often in the past month or more, media stories on Donovan have a sentence stating Bloom will only trade Donovan if he is blown away by an offer.
The origin of that was reporter Katie Woo , former Cardinal insider now with LA Dodgers , who used that terminology in a report.
As soon as she printed her tweet or whatever, it spread like wildfire throughout the media . Other writers all used Katie's wording though she never claimed that Bloom said that . the 'blown away ' phrase expanded even to CT .
No doubt Bloom wishing a top notch return for Donovan but this 'blown away' may be embellshment . I worry that whatever a final trade would be that the 'blown away' publicity may have Cardinal fans upset .
The 'blown away' mindset giving super high expectations may have many fans citing 'Is that all we got for Donovan ? That return didn't 'blow me ' away at all.... or Geez, why did Bloom accept that . Thought he wanted much more for Donovan than that .

Maybe I am off base and putting too much into the 'blown away' comment by Katie Woo but it seems that phraseology has taken a life of its own in the Donovan situation and maybe has created false higher expectations than it should be .

[11WSChamps]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

[Ozziesfan41]

So often in the past month or more, media stories on Donovan have a sentence stating Bloom will only trade Donovan if he is blown away by an offer.
The origin of that was reporter Katie Woo , former Cardinal insider now with LA Dodgers , who used that terminology in a report.
As soon as she printed her tweet or whatever, it spread like wildfire throughout the media . Other writers all used Katie's wording though she never claimed that Bloom said that . the 'blown away ' phrase expanded even to CT .
No doubt Bloom wishing a top notch return for Donovan but this 'blown away' may be embellshment . I worry that whatever a final trade would be that the 'blown away' publicity may have Cardinal fans upset .
The 'blown away' mindset giving super high expectations may have many fans citing 'Is that all we got for Donovan ? That return didn't 'blow me ' away at all.... or Geez, why did Bloom accept that . Thought he wanted much more for Donovan than that .

Maybe I am off base and putting too much into the 'blown away' comment by Katie Woo but it seems that phraseology has taken a life of its own in the Donovan situation and maybe has created false higher expectations than it should be .

No matter what happened or what was said some would complain about the return because they fall into one of two categories 1. They overrate and overvalue donovan and believe hes an elite player who should get an elite return or 2. Theyre like goldfan who is going to complain relentlessly no matter what happens if Bloom trades Donovan he will complain that bloom blew it and didn’t get enough for him if he keeps him he will complain and say bloom blew it by demanding too much for him

[bccardsfan]

Do we really need a new Donovan thread every single day? When there is news of a real trade reported, then someone can post it, but seriously? Carry on, I am sure there will be a new thread tomorrow.....

[rockondlouie]

I think the smart section of our fan base understands that this is B. Donovan that C. Bloom is attempting to deal, not JJW.

While Donny is absolutely a good player and a piece that any contending team (including even the Dodgers) would love to have, his return isn't at "blown away" level.

Unless you're just a total moron, anyone expecting he's bringing back a teams #1 or even #2 prospect ("blown away") or they'll be upset is showing their lack of baseball trade knowledge.

The return will likely be a couple of high-end prospects (perhaps in the acquiring teams #3 - #15 range?) but not a teams multiple top prospects.

We'd all love to get the M's or Giants or ????? #1 or #2 prospect but that would likely take Bloom dealing JJW, not Donny.

JMO

[11WSChamps]

Do we really need a new Donovan thread every single day? When there is news of a real trade reported, then someone can post it, but seriously? Carry on, I am sure there will be a new thread tomorrow.....

You can count on it.

[hugeCardfan]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

Don't see the circumstances for "have to settle". Donovan is the kind of player you keep until someone proffers someone we want more.

[ramfandan]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

Your final sentence above is part of my point. I don't think it's the Cardinals who created the box of overestimation but the writers , podcasters, etc. who are floating the idea that the Cardinals will definitely receive a 'haul' or be 'blown away' . The settling for less is perceived from outsiders over promising , speculations NOT from the Cardinals organization.

It's not the Cardinals but the media who are telling everyone to expect an 'over pay' deal. If and when and it does not happen , it will be the same media previously boasting who will probably say 'Cardinals settled for less ' or Cardinals blinked on Donovan deal
Bloom can't do anything about that but would take the brunt of it.

[Absolut]

Chaim Bloom made several key statements regarding a potential Brendan Donovan trade:
He confirmed the existence of trade rumors.
Bloom praised Donovan's value on and off the field, stating this is why they have a "really high value" on him while also performing their jobs and "listening" to offers.
He indicated that moving Donovan would require a "pretty high price tag".
Bloom clarified they were not actively seeking to trade him but were responding to interest.
He expressed a desire for a resolution before Spring Training to avoid uncertainty.

[Cusecards]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

Don't see the circumstances for "have to settle". Donovan is the kind of player you keep until someone proffers someone we want more.

Agree
Unlike the other three that were dealt(older vets on downside of careers with high $$ contracts) Donovan is under team control for two seasons at a relatively bargain cost in $$.
So I could see where you’d set a realistic return and based on the time frame look for an “overpay”.
Again....I get that his value might be at a high point but still don’t see the necessity to deal him?
His cost in $$ based on his productivity is a bargain.

[45s]

Do we really need a new Donovan thread every single day? When there is news of a real trade reported, then someone can post it, but seriously? Carry on, I am sure there will be a new thread tomorrow.....

So much attention to a guy who has done do little…

(It is at this point someone will exclaim….’All-Star”……..right….on this team)

[45s]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

Don't see the circumstances for "have to settle". Donovan is the kind of player you keep until someone proffers someone we want more.

Agree
Unlike the other three that were dealt(older vets on downside of careers with high $$ contracts) Donovan is under team control for two seasons at a relatively bargain cost in $$.
So I could see where you’d set a realistic return and based on the time frame look for an “overpay”.
Again....I get that his value might be at a high point but still don’t see the necessity to deal him?
His cost in $$ based on his productivity is a bargain.

A good analysis….

except, given the state of this club, his productivity is irrelevant…

Donovan or not, the club is still going to be well under .500

Sell High

[Cusecards]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

Don't see the circumstances for "have to settle". Donovan is the kind of player you keep until someone proffers someone we want more.

Agree
Unlike the other three that were dealt(older vets on downside of careers with high $$ contracts) Donovan is under team control for two seasons at a relatively bargain cost in $$.
So I could see where you’d set a realistic return and based on the time frame look for an “overpay”.
Again....I get that his value might be at a high point but still don’t see the necessity to deal him?
His cost in $$ based on his productivity is a bargain.

A good analysis….

except, given the state of this club, his productivity is irrelevant…

Donovan or not, the club is still going to be well under .500

Sell High

That could certainly be the goal. And a deal could come down at any point.
I guess we’ll find out how they”value” him moving forward?
Long term core player or movable at the right return?

[12xu]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

Don't see the circumstances for "have to settle". Donovan is the kind of player you keep until someone proffers someone we want more.

Agree
Unlike the other three that were dealt(older vets on downside of careers with high $$ contracts) Donovan is under team control for two seasons at a relatively bargain cost in $$.
So I could see where you’d set a realistic return and based on the time frame look for an “overpay”.
Again....I get that his value might be at a high point but still don’t see the necessity to deal him?
His cost in $$ based on his productivity is a bargain.

A good analysis….

except, given the state of this club, his productivity is irrelevant…

Donovan or not, the club is still going to be well under .500

Sell High

They should sell high, but if they get no offers "high" enough, they should keep him.

[2ninr]

Btv seems to be pretty close most of the time.

[11WSChamps]

It's not a matter of "false higher expectations" its a matter of reality in that he doesn't move the needle for the bluebloods because they can bide their time and buy him nor does it for the smaller fish in the pond like the Cardinals looking to get max value out of the few real assets they have.

Thus you have an impasse.

Let's just hope the Cardinals haven't put themselves in a box over estimating their anticipated get for Donovan and wind up having to settle for less.

Don't see the circumstances for "have to settle". Donovan is the kind of player you keep until someone proffers someone we want more.

If you wait until his control years run out or run short then where are you?

The bluebloods can wait and sign him and the similar market teams to the Cardinals are looking to also cash in so there are certainly ways they may wind up getting less than hoped for.