Why not Gorman at first.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

It’s cold out. 26 here.

Just for complete fun. And boredom.

Move Gorman to first. He is an infielder. He can catch. He can throw. He works at fielding. By playing many games at second, same look from same side of field. Hit 25 home runs.

Trade Burleson. Get a reasonable get.

move JJ to third. Gives you a possible 25 home runs each on the corners with decent defense.

Winn Scott and Fermin? Up the middle.

Just for fun.

[JDW]

Minus 20 wind chill here, which is an improvement, but wow, that's obviously very cold for Louisiana if that's where you are at, and I think you will be colder tomorrow morn.
Anyway, yeah, it's an intriguing idea. I don't think Gorman will be a good defensive 3B (hope I'm wrong), and the net run production between Burly and Gorman would possibly be very similar, although produced somewhat differently. Burly has the higher current trade value while Gorman has the higher HR potential.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Minus 20 wind chill here, which is an improvement, but wow, that's obviously very cold for Louisiana if that's where you are at, and I think you will be colder tomorrow morn.
Anyway, yeah, it's an intriguing idea. I don't think Gorman will be a good defensive 3B (hope I'm wrong), and the net run production between Burly and Gorman would possibly be very similar, although produced somewhat differently. Burly has the higher current trade value while Gorman has the higher HR potential.

Yea Louisiana. Cold enough. Thanx for the input.

I’m simply musing. I thought in a rebuild year, maybe strike lightening in a bottle twice, Gorman handles first, and JJ emerges at third. Now put Herrera in left, and you’re a catcher away from a fun young cheap team.

And who knows what Burleson brings.

[passthebuck]

Hasn't there been enough square legs in round holes? Bureson's best position is 1st base. You are either going to build a team around him and Winn or not. Now is the time there guys got to step up and play their best natural positions of it they can't handle it be gone. No more trying to make a player learn a new position at the top level.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Hasn't there been enough square legs in round holes? Bureson's best position is 1st base. You are either going to build a team around him and Winn or not. Now is the time there guys got to step up and play their best natural positions of it they can't handle it be gone. No more trying to make a player learn a new position at the top level.

Nice debate. I guess Gorman to first is an example of your example. The intent was to solve two missing pieces, then , trade Burleson for a reasonable return. It’s a rebuild. Could be experimenting time.

[passthebuck]

Hasn't there been enough square legs in round holes? Bureson's best position is 1st base. You are either going to build a team around him and Winn or not. Now is the time there guys got to step up and play their best natural positions of it they can't handle it be gone. No more trying to make a player learn a new position at the top level.

Nice debate. I guess Gorman to first is an example of your example. The intent was to solve two missing pieces, then , trade Burleson for a reasonable return. It’s a rebuild. Could be experimenting time.

If he hit, maybe. But I thought the plan was to separate potential from clutter. Gorman's best use is probably DH. Give him his shot at 3rd, when he can't handle it, next man up. Decide between him and Herrera at DH then move one of them for something that may be of use later. Lot of tough decisions need to be made. Not try to make these pieces fit. That is part of what got us in trouble to start with.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Hasn't there been enough square legs in round holes? Bureson's best position is 1st base. You are either going to build a team around him and Winn or not. Now is the time there guys got to step up and play their best natural positions of it they can't handle it be gone. No more trying to make a player learn a new position at the top level.

Nice debate. I guess Gorman to first is an example of your example. The intent was to solve two missing pieces, then , trade Burleson for a reasonable return. It’s a rebuild. Could be experimenting time.

If he hit, maybe. But I thought the plan was to separate potential from clutter. Gorman's best use is probably DH. Give him his shot at 3rd, when he can't handle it, next man up. Decide between him and Herrera at DH then move one of them for something that may be of use later. Lot of tough decisions need to be made. Not try to make these pieces fit. That is part of what got us in trouble to start with.

I hear ya. It is part of what got us here. I was thinking JJ to second is over kill for the position. That was my thinking there.

Gorman may very well be a DH. We had a poll while back, if you remember, about easiest position to play in the game. It came down to left and first.

Then the trade value of Burleson, if any. It gave me a chance at corner power, as you noted, if they hit.

[12xu]

Because Burleson's best position is 1B, and he has been steadily improving over his career, while Gorman has not.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Because Burleson's best position is 1B, and he has been steadily improving over his career, while Gorman has not.

I know. A crazy idea. But if Burleson gets traded.

[12xu]

Because Burleson's best position is 1B, and he has been steadily improving over his career, while Gorman has not.

I know. A crazy idea. But if Burleson gets traded.

Not the right time to trade Alec Burleson, he is only 27 and won't be a FA until 2029.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Because Burleson's best position is 1B, and he has been steadily improving over his career, while Gorman has not.

I know. A crazy idea. But if Burleson gets traded.

Not the right time to trade Alec Burleson, he is only 27 and won't be a FA until 2029.

Dam. Makes a bad idea even worse. And Gorman may never see first baseball in a cardinals uniform.

[The Nard]

Good morning.

It’s cold out. 26 here.

Just for complete fun. And boredom.

Move Gorman to first. He is an infielder. He can catch. He can throw. He works at fielding. By playing many games at second, same look from same side of field. Hit 25 home runs.

Trade Burleson. Get a reasonable get.

move JJ to third. Gives you a possible 25 home runs each on the corners with decent defense.

Winn Scott and Fermin? Up the middle.

Just for fun.

Just for fun, I have just dropped my predicted win/loss record for 2026, by another 5 games.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

It’s cold out. 26 here.

Just for complete fun. And boredom.

Move Gorman to first. He is an infielder. He can catch. He can throw. He works at fielding. By playing many games at second, same look from same side of field. Hit 25 home runs.

Trade Burleson. Get a reasonable get.

move JJ to third. Gives you a possible 25 home runs each on the corners with decent defense.

Winn Scott and Fermin? Up the middle.

Just for fun.

Just for fun, I have just dropped my predicted win/loss record for 2026, by 5 games.

Cmon man. Cant be the worst idea. Not my best effort I see- ha.

[Cusecards]

Any of the above mentioned players could be dealt if the return is right.
I could see them preferring to deal Gorman ahead of Burleson but if Burly nets you a return that benefits the team you pull the trigger.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Any of the above mentioned players could be dealt if the return is right.
I could see them preferring to deal Gorman ahead of Burleson but if Burly nets you a return that benefits the team you pull the trigger.

Thanx. Nice input. I wonder who has more trade value between the two. And yes, I see a Gorman as a trade. Why then has he left?

[craviduce]

Gorman has no trade value. He's a throw-in piece at this point. Back-to-back seasons of around 85 wRC+...he's nearly impossible to move, unless you offload him for equipment...or as I said previously, a "throw-in" to a larger trade.

More value, and probably easier to move Burleson. A 1B with only 2 WAR cap to him...not a future cornerstone for a rebuilding team. I'm all for asset acquisition....move Burleson...or the severe diminishing return starts now.