So would extension for Oli go something like this

[ramfandan]

Bloom is on record that he is not a big fan of a 'lame duck' coaching situation. (Oli entering his final year ) Many teams in other sports often cite they don't favor 'lame duck' situation either.

So if Bloom extends Marmol say the last week of Spring Training before they break camp for the regular season , would Bloom have a morning meeting in the clubhouse that may be this :

Bloom: Good morning , guys ! Before you take the field for your game today , I have a major announcement and wanted you to be the first to know before it hits the media and your cellphones get beeped incessantly .
Oli Marmol will no longer be a 'lame duck' manager for 2026 . We have extended his contract past 2026. So for the lame duck title, please drop the 'duck' part , he is now just a 'lame' manager for you guys moving forward . Clubhouse players howl ! Bloom to Oli : 'You have anything to say ? Oli" Yes, thanks a ton for that !

[45s]

Bloom is on record that he is not a big fan of a 'lame duck' coaching situation. (Oli entering his final year ) Many teams in other sports often cite they don't favor 'lame duck' situation either.

So if Bloom extends Marmol say the last week of Spring Training before they break camp for the regular season , would Bloom have a morning meeting in the clubhouse that may be this :

Bloom: Good morning , guys ! Before you take the field for your game today , I have a major announcement and wanted you to be the first to know before it hits the media and your cellphones get beeped incessantly .
Oli Marmol will no longer be a 'lame duck' manager for 2026 . We have extended his contract past 2026. So for the lame duck title, please drop the 'duck' part , he is now just a 'lame' coach for you guys moving forward . Clubhouse players howl ! Bloom to Oli : 'You have anything to say ? Oli" Yes, thanks a ton for that !

Perhaps he should add….

Of course, you guys suck also……so we will be consistent in our approach..

[Jatalk]

Bloom is on record that he is not a big fan of a 'lame duck' coaching situation. (Oli entering his final year ) Many teams in other sports often cite they don't favor 'lame duck' situation either.

So if Bloom extends Marmol say the last week of Spring Training before they break camp for the regular season , would Bloom have a morning meeting in the clubhouse that may be this :

Bloom: Good morning , guys ! Before you take the field for your game today , I have a major announcement and wanted you to be the first to know before it hits the media and your cellphones get beeped incessantly .
Oli Marmol will no longer be a 'lame duck' manager for 2026 . We have extended his contract past 2026. So for the lame duck title, please drop the 'duck' part , he is now just a 'lame' manager for you guys moving forward . Clubhouse players howl ! Bloom to Oli : 'You have anything to say ? Oli" Yes, thanks a ton for that !

I don’t understand why he is not willing to live with a lame duck.

I get it for a college coach that is always in the the recruiting mode.

I get it in the political arena as the other side waits out the term limit.

But for a professional coach why not have a lame duck? What is the harm to the team or organization?

[JuanAgosto]

Why is this organization so worried about oli marmol managing in the last year of a contract? If he is that fragile, move on to a new manager. This guy needs to earn his next extension. Having a .500 career record doesn't scream "We must keep this guy!"

[woofy25]

Why is this organization so worried about oli marmol managing in the last year of a contract? If he is that fragile, move on to a new manager. This guy needs to earn his next extension. Having a .500 career record doesn't scream "We must keep this guy!"

Well, the roster sucks. Name a Manager who makes the playoffs with any of the last three teams?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Why is this organization so worried about oli marmol managing in the last year of a contract? If he is that fragile, move on to a new manager. This guy needs to earn his next extension. Having a .500 career record doesn't scream "We must keep this guy!"

Well, the roster sucks. Name a Manager who makes the playoffs with any of the last three teams?

Doesn’t this issue show how deeply we have dug ourselves in. From the Farm to the Pro level, a complete retool. So that seems like it would require a different template to recover, as the older version doesn’t address Texas sized mud holes.

[12xu]

No extension. Bloom should keep him around on one year contracts until the Cardinals are a legitimate playoff bound team. Once the roster has achieved that status, a better manager should be signed and Marmol either fired or demoted to a position in the minors (if he would accept that). The cubs used this method when they fired Rick Renteria and hired Joe Maddon prior to the 2015 season. They did this again prior to the '24 season when they fired David Ross and hired Craig Counsell. One may consider these kind of moves to be rather cruel, but when the desire to win is first and foremost, hurt feelings are not the prime concern.

[Melville]

Why is this organization so worried about oli marmol managing in the last year of a contract? If he is that fragile, move on to a new manager. This guy needs to earn his next extension. Having a .500 career record doesn't scream "We must keep this guy!"

Well, the roster sucks. Name a Manager who makes the playoffs with any of the last three teams?

More than half.

[Melville]

Bloom is on record that he is not a big fan of a 'lame duck' coaching situation. (Oli entering his final year ) Many teams in other sports often cite they don't favor 'lame duck' situation either.

So if Bloom extends Marmol say the last week of Spring Training before they break camp for the regular season , would Bloom have a morning meeting in the clubhouse that may be this :

Bloom: Good morning , guys ! Before you take the field for your game today , I have a major announcement and wanted you to be the first to know before it hits the media and your cellphones get beeped incessantly .
Oli Marmol will no longer be a 'lame duck' manager for 2026 . We have extended his contract past 2026. So for the lame duck title, please drop the 'duck' part , he is now just a 'lame' manager for you guys moving forward . Clubhouse players howl ! Bloom to Oli : 'You have anything to say ? Oli" Yes, thanks a ton for that !

The only extension The Marmot should be given is to clean out his offices by the end of the day.

[ScotchMIrish]

We are dumping salary but giving the underperforming manager an extension with a buyout?

Does Bloom have a strategy?

[woofy25]

Why is this organization so worried about oli marmol managing in the last year of a contract? If he is that fragile, move on to a new manager. This guy needs to earn his next extension. Having a .500 career record doesn't scream "We must keep this guy!"

Well, the roster sucks. Name a Manager who makes the playoffs with any of the last three teams?

More than half.

Less than one. Managers matter little over the course of the regular season. If anything, the Cardinals have outperformed their numbers the past two years.

[rockondlouie]

One year extension ONLY

BDWJr isn't going to hire a good Manager before the new CBA is in place.

That way if we lose games in 2027 they limit the damage Oli will do.

Then let Bloom hire his guy for the start of the 2028 season.

[Melville]

Why is this organization so worried about oli marmol managing in the last year of a contract? If he is that fragile, move on to a new manager. This guy needs to earn his next extension. Having a .500 career record doesn't scream "We must keep this guy!"

Well, the roster sucks. Name a Manager who makes the playoffs with any of the last three teams?

More than half.

Less than one. Managers matter little over the course of the regular season. If anything, the Cardinals have outperformed their numbers the past two years.

The team has a trend of being in control of a w/c spot in July and completely falling apart when meaningful games begin on the first of August.
That is a complete indictment of The Marmot and reveals his utter incompetence.

[sikeston bulldog2]

One year extension ONLY

BDWJr isn't going to hire a good Manager before the new CBA is in place.

That way if we lose games in 2027 they limit the damage Oli will do.

Then let Bloom hire his guy for the start of the 2028 season.

2028 is three baseball seasons. Maybe two this time. The fan base cant wait. It’s the hardest part.

[12xu]

Why is this organization so worried about oli marmol managing in the last year of a contract? If he is that fragile, move on to a new manager. This guy needs to earn his next extension. Having a .500 career record doesn't scream "We must keep this guy!"

Well, the roster sucks. Name a Manager who makes the playoffs with any of the last three teams?

More than half.

Less than one. Managers matter little over the course of the regular season. If anything, the Cardinals have outperformed their numbers the past two years.

The team has a trend of being in control of a w/c spot in July and completely falling apart when meaningful games begin on the first of August.
That is a complete indictment of The Marmot and reveals his utter incompetence.

This trend was also achieved due to the failure of John Mozeliak and Bill DeWitt to make moves at the deadline to improve the teams' chances of success.

[Melville]

Why is this organization so worried about oli marmol managing in the last year of a contract? If he is that fragile, move on to a new manager. This guy needs to earn his next extension. Having a .500 career record doesn't scream "We must keep this guy!"

Well, the roster sucks. Name a Manager who makes the playoffs with any of the last three teams?

More than half.

Less than one. Managers matter little over the course of the regular season. If anything, the Cardinals have outperformed their numbers the past two years.

The team has a trend of being in control of a w/c spot in July and completely falling apart when meaningful games begin on the first of August.
That is a complete indictment of The Marmot and reveals his utter incompetence.

This trend was also achieved due to the failure of John Mozeliak and Bill DeWitt to make moves at the deadline to improve the teams' chances of success.

The Cardinals had EXACTLY the same position players in Aug/Sept as they did in Apr-July.
Zero downgrade to the lineup.
And yet performed worse.
On the pitching side, they traded Fedde and replaced him with McGreevy - which IMPROVED the rotation.
It is true they traded Maton, Matz, and Helsley from the bullpen - but it is also true that O' Brien, Svanson, Leahy, and Romero had their roles expanded and easily out-performed the group that was traded.
The team had as much, or more, talent after the summer deadline last season as it did before.
on July 1, the team was 47-40, 7 games over .500, owned the 6th best record in the NL, were just 4 games off the division lead, and firmly in control of a W/C.
By August 1, they had a losing record were 11 games out in the division and were 6.5 games back from the last W/C spot.
From there, they continued to badly fade.
Utterly incompetent performance by The Marmot - again.