Glad to see Kyrou's recent run

[Bluesfan1978]

He never changes his game. Imagine if he made up his mind to hit the blue line with speed and drive the net the chaos he would create. Even when struggling to score doesn’t look for the greasy goal or to simplify his game. Maybe some of its awareness. Personally I think he thinks that’s not part of his game and that’s it for him.

[blackinkbiz]

Kyrou’s an average winger with elite speed. The real issue is his hockey awareness and knowing how to actually use that speed. With his tools, he should be living in the film room watching how MacKinnon and McDavid attack the offensive zone.

Instead, Kyrou crosses the blue line and immediately looks to drop it or dish it off. Keep skating. Use your legs. Force the defense to back off, make them chase you, and draw coverage away from the net. That’s how speed changes a game — not by giving the puck up the second you enter the zone.

When MacKinnon comes screaming into the O-zone, it’s chaos — forwards and defensemen scattering like roaches. That’s what elite speed is supposed to do.

He has the same speed but nowhere near the strength on his skates. Those 2 are like charging bulls whereas Kyrou's more of a high-speed figure skater.

Also, apparently, it's not much fun to be either NMac or McD's teammate. They're both very demanding of their line and teammates from what I've heard. That's the price you often pay for greatness.

The Blues clearly have no one like that in leadership, as demonstrated by the fact that, despite being perhaps the worst team in the NHL, you never see Schenn, Thomas, Parayko or Faulk rallying them all together and getting in faces and screaming. Not saying that's what leadership entails, but when you're a team that was expected to compete for an NHL title, and instead you're sitting close to last, guys should be getting on one another.

[ManitobaBlues]

He never changes his game. Imagine if he made up his mind to hit the blue line with speed and drive the net the chaos he would create. Even when struggling to score doesn’t look for the greasy goal or to simplify his game. Maybe some of its awareness. Personally I think he thinks that’s not part of his game and that’s it for him.

I agree, and that’s exactly why he was a second-round pick. I don’t think Kyrou is a bad player at all — but I do think he needs a new environment and a reset to restart his career.

The issue isn’t the dollar amount of the contract, it’s the term and the no-trade clause. That part boxed the team in and made everything harder. Sometimes a player and a team just need a clean break.

[the miracle]

He never changes his game. Imagine if he made up his mind to hit the blue line with speed and drive the net the chaos he would create. Even when struggling to score doesn’t look for the greasy goal or to simplify his game. Maybe some of its awareness. Personally I think he thinks that’s not part of his game and that’s it for him.

I agree, and that’s exactly why he was a second-round pick. I don’t think Kyrou is a bad player at all — but I do think he needs a new environment and a reset to restart his career.

The issue isn’t the dollar amount of the contract, it’s the term and the no-trade clause. That part boxed the team in and made everything harder. Sometimes a player and a team just need a clean break.

Just one person's opinion, but I think the problem with Kyrou is that when his contract was announced and Blues fans heard he (and Thomas) are the highest paid Blues players, fans immediately assumed that meant they were first line players. Fact is, while their contracts may have been the highest for the Blues, compared to the rest of the league - then and now - their contracts dollars are second line player contracts dollars.

Both Thomas and Kyrou are second line players and their main problem is that the Blues don't have better players to pay more. If the Blues announced a contract extension for Holloway at 10m per year, Kyrou would move way down the line as whipping boy.

I also have friends who hate Kyrou because he didn't kiss the ring of Craig "walks on water" Berube after he got fired. That probably didn't help him much. I'm a little more forgiving about the incident because I've had (bleep) bosses and bosses I just flat out didn't like - I would not have been as gracious talking about them as Kyrou was about Berube. But that's me.

[SameOldBlues]

I hope he goes out of character and plays like the best player in the league, up until the trade deadline at least.

[netboy65]

Research who has the highest Corsi or Fenwick on the team and is only -7 when Schenn is -26, and get back to me.

[Bluesfan1978]

Kyrou is the leader in analytics by far. He still doesn’t adapt or change his game at all when struggling to score. Watch other teams top players if they go 5/6 games not being productive. They are ready to push a goalie into the net to get the puck across the line. I also have no idea if he’s been battling some type of injury.

[diehardbluesfan1]

Last night when Kyrou scored the wrap around goal you saw him wind up through the neutral zone like mcdavid does. I was like, where has that been all year and how has no one worked that into their offense.

Ridiculous

[JoshInFenton]

Meh, the last two years he has been fine. He was a much more responsible player last season by getting back and breaking plays up. He's still just as good at it this year he just got hurt and the team is terrible around him. Yeah that are shifts off sometimes, but it's not been that bad since closer to the start of the season. Thomas playing hurt and like and buch playing like he has lost the net are the reasons why we fell off from a top line perspective, and like it or hate it we do miss the production Bolduc put up, we've replaced him with less production or more directly we've replaced him with players that aren't as shoot first in the depth chart.

Not saying we need to go get him back (the only way: they give up on him and we move our veterans for picks at the deadline), but IMO players either have a team-player or individualistic mentality when it comes to decision making, it's that first instinct to shoot or pass. We need 1 more guy that has that shoot first mentality that can play as a middle 6. Maybe that's on the way through the farm system, or maybe it's a move outside the organization at some point.

The way I see it, it’s time to move on from Schenn, Buch, Kyrou, and Binnington. Let’s reset and build the team that Steen and Monty actually want to move forward with over the next two seasons. Commit to a direction and lets build around these prospects.....then again that is why I am not a GM

I don't mind sending most of the veterans out, but i think that the trap is to always go young. Buffalo tried that for the better part of a decade, brought in 1 or 2 has beens or never was veterans and went totally young in the top ranks, and never made the playoffs. You have to have 1 or 2 that have been there and done it to bring younger guys along. Ideally guys still in their prime, but hard to convince people to do that if they have good years left to come to a trainwreck. So gotta be careful.

[skilles]

I think fans probably grossly underestimate the grind of sports at this level, there is a very good chance his body has been compromised and that is probably far more a factor in players inconsistencies than people realize.

I'm certain that was the case in the playoffs when a lot of fans called him out for "quitting"

People think they backoff because they got smoked or from the physicality....well yeah their bodies quit working.

Heart and will is definitely a factor but not quite like the entertainment industry would have you believe. Heart and will make get you to try to do it anyway but it will not make your body work like its supposed to.

[ManitobaBlues]

Research who has the highest Corsi or Fenwick on the team and is only -7 when Schenn is -26, and get back to me.

Whoa there, horse before the cart, bud. I thought you said plus/minus doesn’t mean anything? No one is talking about his + / -, we want him traded to make room for our real future Blues team.

[xweazel75]

Last night when Kyrou scored the wrap around goal you saw him wind up through the neutral zone like mcdavid does. I was like, where has that been all year and how has no one worked that into their offense.

Ridiculous

In any sport, bad coaching, or even ineffective coaching can take an All Star player and ruin their career.

Im happy to see the recent success for the offense. Feels like the obstacles have been removed from the gameplan. Looks like theyre having a bit more fun too.

Successful coaches utilize their players strengths. Bad coaches force players into a system that doesnt leverage what they are good at.

Its like Monty reset the clock to a couple years back, told Kyrou to play his game and put Buch back in the middle, where he wants to help his team. He deserves credit. I hope Thommer comes back healthy and is rejuvenated as well. I hope I never see Sunny on a powerplay or Kyrou on the 3rd line again.

-x

[blues2112]

After the wrap-around, biggest smile I've seen from him all year. Great to see! Maybe getting some confidence back?

[netboy65]

Research who has the highest Corsi or Fenwick on the team and is only -7 when Schenn is -26, and get back to me.

Whoa there, horse before the cart, bud. I thought you said plus/minus doesn’t mean anything? No one is talking about his + / -, we want him traded to make room for our real future Blues team.

It doesn’t, at least not as much for forwards but when in Rome….everyone wanted to hang him for it in the past.

[Harry York 37]

Last night when Kyrou scored the wrap around goal you saw him wind up through the neutral zone like mcdavid does. I was like, where has that been all year and how has no one worked that into their offense.

Ridiculous

Vitale said that out loud a few games ago when Kyrou looked like he had made the historic decision to compete and play hard and help the team. Ya gotta wonder what the insiders say about that [shirt] , "off the record".
He is a stain on the bluenote.
6'1 and 195 pounds of "Maybe".

[blues2112]

Both Thomas and Kyrou are second line players and their main problem is that the Blues don't have better players to pay more. If the Blues announced a contract extension for Holloway at 10m per year, Kyrou would move way down the line as whipping boy.

Bank! on both points.

Well done.