Why don't you ask that to fans that continually watch their teams lose? Facts are that there is a layer of teams that will most likely make the playoffs year after year. Conversely there's a layer that you can almost set your watch by that won't make the playoffs. Do you deny this? If so you're just a resident in fantasy land. Again, if you know that your outcome will be out of the playoffs and dismal, and you don't do anything to try and change that, then what's the point? You might just as well forfeit the season as be other teams punching bag. The difference is in the trying. If they made an effort, sign some decent talent, then there might be a chance at something special happening. Just tanking for the sake of tanking is dusgusting. Why must some of you defend it?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 00:03 amNope. Not good enough for all. Predict the playoff games and we shall see if the games were worth playing.CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 19:47 pmI can certainly assure you that the Cards won't be one. Is that good enough for your straw man?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 15:45 pmCan you predict all the playoff teams in 2026? What’s the point in playing in the games if you already know the outcome?CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 08:46 amObviously I'm talking of BEFORE they tanked. At least they would have a chance. Without the playoffs, what's the point of even playing the games?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 22:59 pmSo the Cardinals tanked lineup would do what? Make the playoffs? World Series? I’m not sure what you mean.CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 20:37 pmSure they aren't a powerhouse lineup. But there aren't a lot of runs being scored by anyone in the playoffs, because top tier pitching takes over. Especially in a short series. Look at how much difference that Yoshinobu Yamamoto made for the Dodgers. I doubt they win the World Series without him.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 19:58 pmNice deflection. OK both picthers. Now where are we at with that starting lineup? The one that you have pointed out numerous times that has been created just a tank and get high lottery picks?CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 17:47 pmReading comprehension. Did I say 1 pitcher?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 17:42 pmSo you think signing 1pitcher would vault them into contention after the numerous times you have pointed out the entire starting lineup was created to tank?CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 13:52 pmThe Cards have the payroll room to sign both and it would vault them into contention. Of course that's a dream because DeWitt wants to lose right now.redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 13:33 pm Valdez and Gallen are still unsigned.With the reduction in payroll, could Bloom make a play for either one? Could be a good strategy if one is signed to a one or two year deal, either could be traded at the deadline with the probability the Cards may well have no chance of making the playoffs. Acquiring pitching is the position that is most desired by contenders going into the stretch of the season. Cards could possibly get a high prospect in return.![]()
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Tell me which teams will be in the playoffs. If you know the teams that will not be in the playoffs, you have to know the teams that will be.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 07:10 amWhy don't you ask that to fans that continually watch their teams lose? Facts are that there is a layer of teams that will most likely make the playoffs year after year. Conversely there's a layer that you can almost set your watch by that won't make the playoffs. Do you deny this? If so you're just a resident in fantasy land. Again, if you know that your outcome will be out of the playoffs and dismal, and you don't do anything to try and change that, then what's the point? You might just as well forfeit the season as be other teams punching bag. The difference is in the trying. If they made an effort, sign some decent talent, then there might be a chance at something special happening. Just tanking for the sake of tanking is dusgusting. Why must some of you defend it?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 00:03 amNope. Not good enough for all. Predict the playoff games and we shall see if the games were worth playing.CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 19:47 pmI can certainly assure you that the Cards won't be one. Is that good enough for your straw man?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 15:45 pmCan you predict all the playoff teams in 2026? What’s the point in playing in the games if you already know the outcome?CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 08:46 amObviously I'm talking of BEFORE they tanked. At least they would have a chance. Without the playoffs, what's the point of even playing the games?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 22:59 pmSo the Cardinals tanked lineup would do what? Make the playoffs? World Series? I’m not sure what you mean.CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 20:37 pmSure they aren't a powerhouse lineup. But there aren't a lot of runs being scored by anyone in the playoffs, because top tier pitching takes over. Especially in a short series. Look at how much difference that Yoshinobu Yamamoto made for the Dodgers. I doubt they win the World Series without him.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 19:58 pmNice deflection. OK both picthers. Now where are we at with that starting lineup? The one that you have pointed out numerous times that has been created just a tank and get high lottery picks?CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 17:47 pmReading comprehension. Did I say 1 pitcher?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 17:42 pmSo you think signing 1pitcher would vault them into contention after the numerous times you have pointed out the entire starting lineup was created to tank?CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 13:52 pmThe Cards have the payroll room to sign both and it would vault them into contention. Of course that's a dream because DeWitt wants to lose right now.redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 13:33 pm Valdez and Gallen are still unsigned.With the reduction in payroll, could Bloom make a play for either one? Could be a good strategy if one is signed to a one or two year deal, either could be traded at the deadline with the probability the Cards may well have no chance of making the playoffs. Acquiring pitching is the position that is most desired by contenders going into the stretch of the season. Cards could possibly get a high prospect in return.![]()
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How would I know exactly what teams would be in the playoffs? Stop playing childish games. The Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Seattle, Probably Chicago, Probably Brewers, Probably Detroit, Possibly the Mets, Probably San Diego, Probably Toronto, Probably Cleveland, Probably Houston, Probably Boston. Close enough? Would you bet that any of these teams don't make the playoffs? You know what these teams have in common? They're all in the top half of payroll rankings with the possible exception of the Brewers who are just out of that ranking. See my point?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 17:15 pmTell me which teams will be in the playoffs. If you know the teams that will not be in the playoffs, you have to know the teams that will be.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 07:10 amWhy don't you ask that to fans that continually watch their teams lose? Facts are that there is a layer of teams that will most likely make the playoffs year after year. Conversely there's a layer that you can almost set your watch by that won't make the playoffs. Do you deny this? If so you're just a resident in fantasy land. Again, if you know that your outcome will be out of the playoffs and dismal, and you don't do anything to try and change that, then what's the point? You might just as well forfeit the season as be other teams punching bag. The difference is in the trying. If they made an effort, sign some decent talent, then there might be a chance at something special happening. Just tanking for the sake of tanking is dusgusting. Why must some of you defend it?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 00:03 amNope. Not good enough for all. Predict the playoff games and we shall see if the games were worth playing.CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 19:47 pmI can certainly assure you that the Cards won't be one. Is that good enough for your straw man?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 15:45 pmCan you predict all the playoff teams in 2026? What’s the point in playing in the games if you already know the outcome?CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 08:46 amObviously I'm talking of BEFORE they tanked. At least they would have a chance. Without the playoffs, what's the point of even playing the games?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 22:59 pmSo the Cardinals tanked lineup would do what? Make the playoffs? World Series? I’m not sure what you mean.CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 20:37 pmSure they aren't a powerhouse lineup. But there aren't a lot of runs being scored by anyone in the playoffs, because top tier pitching takes over. Especially in a short series. Look at how much difference that Yoshinobu Yamamoto made for the Dodgers. I doubt they win the World Series without him.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 19:58 pmNice deflection. OK both picthers. Now where are we at with that starting lineup? The one that you have pointed out numerous times that has been created just a tank and get high lottery picks?CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 17:47 pmReading comprehension. Did I say 1 pitcher?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 17:42 pmSo you think signing 1pitcher would vault them into contention after the numerous times you have pointed out the entire starting lineup was created to tank?![]()
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No, not close enough. Not even in the ballpark.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 19:15 pmHow would I know exactly what teams would be in the playoffs? Stop playing childish games. The Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Seattle, Probably Chicago, Probably Brewers, Probably Detroit, Possibly the Mets, Probably San Diego, Probably Toronto, Probably Cleveland, Probably Houston, Probably Boston. Close enough? Would you bet that any of these teams don't make the playoffs? You know what these teams have in common? They're all in the top half of payroll rankings with the possible exception of the Brewers who are just out of that ranking. See my point?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 17:15 pmTell me which teams will be in the playoffs. If you know the teams that will not be in the playoffs, you have to know the teams that will be.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 07:10 amWhy don't you ask that to fans that continually watch their teams lose? Facts are that there is a layer of teams that will most likely make the playoffs year after year. Conversely there's a layer that you can almost set your watch by that won't make the playoffs. Do you deny this? If so you're just a resident in fantasy land. Again, if you know that your outcome will be out of the playoffs and dismal, and you don't do anything to try and change that, then what's the point? You might just as well forfeit the season as be other teams punching bag. The difference is in the trying. If they made an effort, sign some decent talent, then there might be a chance at something special happening. Just tanking for the sake of tanking is dusgusting. Why must some of you defend it?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 00:03 amNope. Not good enough for all. Predict the playoff games and we shall see if the games were worth playing.CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 19:47 pmI can certainly assure you that the Cards won't be one. Is that good enough for your straw man?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 15:45 pmCan you predict all the playoff teams in 2026? What’s the point in playing in the games if you already know the outcome?CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 08:46 amObviously I'm talking of BEFORE they tanked. At least they would have a chance. Without the playoffs, what's the point of even playing the games?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 22:59 pmSo the Cardinals tanked lineup would do what? Make the playoffs? World Series? I’m not sure what you mean.CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 20:37 pmSure they aren't a powerhouse lineup. But there aren't a lot of runs being scored by anyone in the playoffs, because top tier pitching takes over. Especially in a short series. Look at how much difference that Yoshinobu Yamamoto made for the Dodgers. I doubt they win the World Series without him.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 19:58 pmNice deflection. OK both picthers. Now where are we at with that starting lineup? The one that you have pointed out numerous times that has been created just a tank and get high lottery picks?CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 17:47 pmReading comprehension. Did I say 1 pitcher?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 17:42 pm
So you think signing 1pitcher would vault them into contention after the numerous times you have pointed out the entire starting lineup was created to tank?![]()
Because you said if you already know you’re going to lose while I play the games? I do not see your point. Not in the least. I think you’re just flapping on like you always do. You’re Tanking your answer.
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You're a waste.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 19:46 pmNo, not close enough. Not even in the ballpark.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 19:15 pmHow would I know exactly what teams would be in the playoffs? Stop playing childish games. The Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Seattle, Probably Chicago, Probably Brewers, Probably Detroit, Possibly the Mets, Probably San Diego, Probably Toronto, Probably Cleveland, Probably Houston, Probably Boston. Close enough? Would you bet that any of these teams don't make the playoffs? You know what these teams have in common? They're all in the top half of payroll rankings with the possible exception of the Brewers who are just out of that ranking. See my point?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 17:15 pmTell me which teams will be in the playoffs. If you know the teams that will not be in the playoffs, you have to know the teams that will be.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 07:10 amWhy don't you ask that to fans that continually watch their teams lose? Facts are that there is a layer of teams that will most likely make the playoffs year after year. Conversely there's a layer that you can almost set your watch by that won't make the playoffs. Do you deny this? If so you're just a resident in fantasy land. Again, if you know that your outcome will be out of the playoffs and dismal, and you don't do anything to try and change that, then what's the point? You might just as well forfeit the season as be other teams punching bag. The difference is in the trying. If they made an effort, sign some decent talent, then there might be a chance at something special happening. Just tanking for the sake of tanking is dusgusting. Why must some of you defend it?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 00:03 amNope. Not good enough for all. Predict the playoff games and we shall see if the games were worth playing.CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 19:47 pmI can certainly assure you that the Cards won't be one. Is that good enough for your straw man?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 15:45 pmCan you predict all the playoff teams in 2026? What’s the point in playing in the games if you already know the outcome?CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 08:46 amObviously I'm talking of BEFORE they tanked. At least they would have a chance. Without the playoffs, what's the point of even playing the games?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 22:59 pmSo the Cardinals tanked lineup would do what? Make the playoffs? World Series? I’m not sure what you mean.CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 20:37 pmSure they aren't a powerhouse lineup. But there aren't a lot of runs being scored by anyone in the playoffs, because top tier pitching takes over. Especially in a short series. Look at how much difference that Yoshinobu Yamamoto made for the Dodgers. I doubt they win the World Series without him.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 19:58 pmNice deflection. OK both picthers. Now where are we at with that starting lineup? The one that you have pointed out numerous times that has been created just a tank and get high lottery picks?
Because you said if you already know you’re going to lose while I play the games? I do not see your point. Not in the least. I think you’re just flapping on like you always do. You’re Tanking your answer.
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Tank you, Troll.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 21:52 pmYou're a waste.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 19:46 pmNo, not close enough. Not even in the ballpark.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 19:15 pmHow would I know exactly what teams would be in the playoffs? Stop playing childish games. The Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Seattle, Probably Chicago, Probably Brewers, Probably Detroit, Possibly the Mets, Probably San Diego, Probably Toronto, Probably Cleveland, Probably Houston, Probably Boston. Close enough? Would you bet that any of these teams don't make the playoffs? You know what these teams have in common? They're all in the top half of payroll rankings with the possible exception of the Brewers who are just out of that ranking. See my point?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 17:15 pmTell me which teams will be in the playoffs. If you know the teams that will not be in the playoffs, you have to know the teams that will be.CCard wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 07:10 amWhy don't you ask that to fans that continually watch their teams lose? Facts are that there is a layer of teams that will most likely make the playoffs year after year. Conversely there's a layer that you can almost set your watch by that won't make the playoffs. Do you deny this? If so you're just a resident in fantasy land. Again, if you know that your outcome will be out of the playoffs and dismal, and you don't do anything to try and change that, then what's the point? You might just as well forfeit the season as be other teams punching bag. The difference is in the trying. If they made an effort, sign some decent talent, then there might be a chance at something special happening. Just tanking for the sake of tanking is dusgusting. Why must some of you defend it?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 00:03 amNope. Not good enough for all. Predict the playoff games and we shall see if the games were worth playing.CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 19:47 pmI can certainly assure you that the Cards won't be one. Is that good enough for your straw man?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 15:45 pmCan you predict all the playoff teams in 2026? What’s the point in playing in the games if you already know the outcome?CCard wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026 08:46 amObviously I'm talking of BEFORE they tanked. At least they would have a chance. Without the playoffs, what's the point of even playing the games?Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 22:59 pmSo the Cardinals tanked lineup would do what? Make the playoffs? World Series? I’m not sure what you mean.CCard wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 20:37 pmSure they aren't a powerhouse lineup. But there aren't a lot of runs being scored by anyone in the playoffs, because top tier pitching takes over. Especially in a short series. Look at how much difference that Yoshinobu Yamamoto made for the Dodgers. I doubt they win the World Series without him.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 19:58 pm
Nice deflection. OK both picthers. Now where are we at with that starting lineup? The one that you have pointed out numerous times that has been created just a tank and get high lottery picks?
Because you said if you already know you’re going to lose while I play the games? I do not see your point. Not in the least. I think you’re just flapping on like you always do. You’re Tanking your answer.