What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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rockondlouie wrote: 24 Jan 2026 10:08 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
Are you cereal?

It's what is done for every game
.. especially amongst catchers and pitchers :roll:
Yep

Pitching Coach/Catchers/Pitchers go over how to attack hitters, who they want to pitch around, situations, ect.....

Dunc' use to comment about Yadi being outstanding at game planning.
Just one of the reasons catchers often make good managers or good pitching coaches.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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rockondlouie wrote: 24 Jan 2026 10:08 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
Are you cereal?

It's what is done for every game
.. especially amongst catchers and pitchers :roll:
Yep

Pitching Coach/Catchers/Pitchers go over how to attack hitters, who they want to pitch around, situations, ect.....

Dunc' use to comment about Yadi being outstanding at game planning.
That makes sense but last season pitchers were left in the game regardless of how they were performing until they threw the pre-planned number of pitches.

Catchers have been studying hitters for decades. If that's what he is doing then it can't hurt.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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For the Marmot, game planning strategy is how to get as many relief pitchers into the game as possible. I think he holds stock in a revolving door company.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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OldRed wrote: 24 Jan 2026 11:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Jan 2026 10:08 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
Are you cereal?

It's what is done for every game
.. especially amongst catchers and pitchers :roll:
Yep

Pitching Coach/Catchers/Pitchers go over how to attack hitters, who they want to pitch around, situations, ect.....

Dunc' use to comment about Yadi being outstanding at game planning.
Just one of the reasons catchers often make good managers or good pitching coaches.
BINGO OR!

Usually the baseball smartest players on the field.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 11:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Jan 2026 10:08 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
Are you cereal?

It's what is done for every game
.. especially amongst catchers and pitchers :roll:
Yep

Pitching Coach/Catchers/Pitchers go over how to attack hitters, who they want to pitch around, situations, ect.....

Dunc' use to comment about Yadi being outstanding at game planning.
That makes sense but last season pitchers were left in the game regardless of how they were performing until they threw the pre-planned number of pitches.

Catchers have been studying hitters for decades. If that's what he is doing then it can't hurt.
I once heard TLR say he & Dunc' use to sit in amazement and listen to Yadi talk about how they pitched a certain hitter, years ago and he could detail the pitch sequence and results! 8O

Dude was insane, why TLR trusted him even at age 21.

Too many in here have Yadi-hate but he was truly one of the all-time great catchers.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:59 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
You know….todays young players have only been coached to Launch And Spin….and have no real clue how to play the GAME
It’s similar to taking a long drive champ and attempting to have them play 18 on a course
Good analogy!
What other sports do you feel like teams shouldn’t strategize before games? Football? Basketball?

Is all strategic planning just a big waste of time?
No, why would you ask that?

I simply agreed with his analogy that a lot of today's players don't really know the game, but simply have learned/possessed/perfected physical tools that are required in the game.
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Can't hurt to have a future Hall of famer pair of eyes on the situation with all the young catchers we have.

More importantly to have a guy around who doesn't like to lose and shows it.

This regime to this point is much to cavalier about losing games and it shows.

Hopefully Yadi may have something to do with changing that.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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11WSChamps wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:33 pm Can't hurt to have a future Hall of famer pair of eyes on the situation with all the young catchers we have.

More importantly to have a guy around who doesn't like to lose and shows it.

This regime to this point is much to cavalier about losing games and it shows.

Hopefully Yadi may have something to do with changing that.
Boom. Love your 3rd line. I’m hoping he shows his commitment and gets the manager job.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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rockondlouie wrote: 24 Jan 2026 11:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 11:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Jan 2026 10:08 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
Are you cereal?

It's what is done for every game
.. especially amongst catchers and pitchers :roll:
Yep

Pitching Coach/Catchers/Pitchers go over how to attack hitters, who they want to pitch around, situations, ect.....

Dunc' use to comment about Yadi being outstanding at game planning.
That makes sense but last season pitchers were left in the game regardless of how they were performing until they threw the pre-planned number of pitches.

Catchers have been studying hitters for decades. If that's what he is doing then it can't hurt.
I once heard TLR say he & Dunc' use to sit in amazement and listen to Yadi talk about how they pitched a certain hitter, years ago and he could detail the pitch sequence and results! 8O

Dude was insane, why TLR trusted him even at age 21.

Too many in here have Yadi-hate but he was truly one of the all-time great catchers.
Maybe give Yadi the gizmo to tell the pitcher and catcher what the pitch should be during games.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:38 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Jan 2026 11:52 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 11:42 am
rockondlouie wrote: 24 Jan 2026 10:08 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
Are you cereal?

It's what is done for every game
.. especially amongst catchers and pitchers :roll:
Yep

Pitching Coach/Catchers/Pitchers go over how to attack hitters, who they want to pitch around, situations, ect.....

Dunc' use to comment about Yadi being outstanding at game planning.
That makes sense but last season pitchers were left in the game regardless of how they were performing until they threw the pre-planned number of pitches.

Catchers have been studying hitters for decades. If that's what he is doing then it can't hurt.
I once heard TLR say he & Dunc' use to sit in amazement and listen to Yadi talk about how they pitched a certain hitter, years ago and he could detail the pitch sequence and results! 8O

Dude was insane, why TLR trusted him even at age 21.

Too many in here have Yadi-hate but he was truly one of the all-time great catchers.
Maybe give Yadi the gizmo to tell the pitcher and catcher what the pitch should be during games.
:wink:
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:13 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:59 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
You know….todays young players have only been coached to Launch And Spin….and have no real clue how to play the GAME
It’s similar to taking a long drive champ and attempting to have them play 18 on a course
Good analogy!
What other sports do you feel like teams shouldn’t strategize before games? Football? Basketball?

Is all strategic planning just a big waste of time?
No, why would you ask that?

I simply agreed with his analogy that a lot of today's players don't really know the game, but simply have learned/possessed/perfected physical tools that are required in the game.
I can't fathom the idea that you'd think that's remotely true.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:56 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:13 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:59 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
You know….todays young players have only been coached to Launch And Spin….and have no real clue how to play the GAME
It’s similar to taking a long drive champ and attempting to have them play 18 on a course
Good analogy!
What other sports do you feel like teams shouldn’t strategize before games? Football? Basketball?

Is all strategic planning just a big waste of time?
No, why would you ask that?

I simply agreed with his analogy that a lot of today's players don't really know the game, but simply have learned/possessed/perfected physical tools that are required in the game.
I can't fathom the idea that you'd think that's remotely true.
Have you not watched MLB baseball in the past decade???? Guys know how to throw hard, have no idea how to pitch. Guys know how to generate launch angle and exit velo, have no idea how to approach an AB. Come on guy. That isn't hard.
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 13:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:56 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:13 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:59 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
You know….todays young players have only been coached to Launch And Spin….and have no real clue how to play the GAME
It’s similar to taking a long drive champ and attempting to have them play 18 on a course
Good analogy!
What other sports do you feel like teams shouldn’t strategize before games? Football? Basketball?

Is all strategic planning just a big waste of time?
No, why would you ask that?

I simply agreed with his analogy that a lot of today's players don't really know the game, but simply have learned/possessed/perfected physical tools that are required in the game.
I can't fathom the idea that you'd think that's remotely true.
Have you not watched MLB baseball in the past decade???? Guys know how to throw hard, have no idea how to pitch. Guys know how to generate launch angle and exit velo, have no idea how to approach an AB. Come on guy. That isn't hard.
I think it's funny that you believe this to be true.

The kids coming into baseball today have played more ball than you could imagine.
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Re: What exactly is "game planning strategy"?

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An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 13:32 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 13:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:56 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:13 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:59 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
You know….todays young players have only been coached to Launch And Spin….and have no real clue how to play the GAME
It’s similar to taking a long drive champ and attempting to have them play 18 on a course
Good analogy!
What other sports do you feel like teams shouldn’t strategize before games? Football? Basketball?

Is all strategic planning just a big waste of time?
No, why would you ask that?

I simply agreed with his analogy that a lot of today's players don't really know the game, but simply have learned/possessed/perfected physical tools that are required in the game.
I can't fathom the idea that you'd think that's remotely true.
Have you not watched MLB baseball in the past decade???? Guys know how to throw hard, have no idea how to pitch. Guys know how to generate launch angle and exit velo, have no idea how to approach an AB. Come on guy. That isn't hard.
I think it's funny that you believe this to be true.

The kids coming into baseball today have played more ball than you could imagine.
Playing the game and knowing the game are two totally different things. Watch the games. It is evident.
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The analytics are available game to game and for the season for all MLB Players. A part of preparing a pitcher/catcher for a game is to understand the game through analytics. For example, most of the pitchers should be familiar with the concept of "pitching backwards." IOWs, starting a hitter off with an off-speed pitch. This is typically reserved for the heart of the lineup. If I were preparing a pitcher/catcher to pitch to the Cardinals, I'd have them throw a first-pitch fastball to the majority of the lineup since so many hitters take a first strike. Analytics would show factors such as the two-strike approach teams have taken to hitters and how successful those approaches are. MLB hitters make changes throughout the year. That has to be taken into account when looking at a season's numbers. That is a part of what Yadi will try to teach.
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An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 13:32 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 13:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:56 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 12:13 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:59 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:40 am
Goldfan wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:31 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 24 Jan 2026 09:28 am Yadi will provide input on our catching program, will advise our staff on catching and game planning strategy, and will give me and our front office valuable perspective from his unique vantage point.

Glad to have Molina connected to the team again but I'm curious what that is. My impression of successful managers is they watched what was happening on the field and adjusted accordingly.
You know….todays young players have only been coached to Launch And Spin….and have no real clue how to play the GAME
It’s similar to taking a long drive champ and attempting to have them play 18 on a course
Good analogy!
What other sports do you feel like teams shouldn’t strategize before games? Football? Basketball?

Is all strategic planning just a big waste of time?
No, why would you ask that?

I simply agreed with his analogy that a lot of today's players don't really know the game, but simply have learned/possessed/perfected physical tools that are required in the game.
I can't fathom the idea that you'd think that's remotely true.
Have you not watched MLB baseball in the past decade???? Guys know how to throw hard, have no idea how to pitch. Guys know how to generate launch angle and exit velo, have no idea how to approach an AB. Come on guy. That isn't hard.
I think it's funny that you believe this to be true.

The kids coming into baseball today have played more ball than you could imagine.
YUP!