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Friedman on Thomas

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https://x.com/nhltradealert/status/2014 ... swP-ZGd7DA

Deals I’d like to see.

Thomas to Anaheim for Mason MacTavish plus or Senneke.

Then deal Faulk and Suter to Red Wings for Simon Edvisson and draft pick
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john3186 wrote: 23 Jan 2026 14:24 pm https://x.com/nhltradealert/status/2014 ... swP-ZGd7DA

Deals I’d like to see.

Thomas to Anaheim for Mason MacTavish plus or Senneke.

Then deal Faulk and Suter to Red Wings for Simon Edvisson and draft pick
Not getting Edvinsson out of Detroit. He's 22, huge and good offensively. I think he plays top 4 paired with Mo Seider. That's a pipe dream.
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john3186 wrote: 23 Jan 2026 14:24 pm https://x.com/nhltradealert/status/2014 ... swP-ZGd7DA

Deals I’d like to see.

Thomas to Anaheim for Mason MacTavish plus or Senneke. Why would they do that?

Then deal Faulk and Suter to Red Wings for Simon Edvisson and draft pick Why would they do that?
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Re: Friedman on Thomas

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Sure seems to be a lot of smoke regarding Thomas that doesn’t appear to be going away. Its a bit worrying and a little exciting at the same time
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 23 Jan 2026 14:50 pm Sure seems to be a lot of smoke regarding Thomas that doesn’t appear to be going away. Its a bit worrying and a little exciting at the same time
Outside of Parayko, it’s really the only meaningful chip they have.

And if they don’t see him as a leader, then let’s change gears. Let’s go
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 23 Jan 2026 14:50 pm Sure seems to be a lot of smoke regarding Thomas that doesn’t appear to be going away. Its a bit worrying and a little exciting at the same time
I honestly don't get it unless they get a total haul back.
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I dont want a haul for Thomas.
If I give up Thomas--I want one player equal to Thomas--or it makes no sense.
We need quality not quantity. We have draft pics galore. Need a #1 Center. #1 winger.
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succinct712 wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:21 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 23 Jan 2026 14:50 pm Sure seems to be a lot of smoke regarding Thomas that doesn’t appear to be going away. Its a bit worrying and a little exciting at the same time
I honestly don't get it unless they get a total haul back.
Word is they didn’t not see him as a guy you build around. Berube gave hints of that. There are other tells as well.

He’d be good as a number 2 where he doesn’t have to lead and have a mic in his face every night
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Re: Friedman on Thomas

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BluesDom wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:23 pm I dont want a haul for Thomas.
If I give up Thomas--I want one player equal to Thomas--or it makes no sense.
We need quality not quantity. We have draft pics galore. Need a #1 Center. #1 winger.
Any player coming back likely won’t be equal to Thomas for at least a couple of years. I think they want to add someone in the 20-22 age range. Return is gonna be a haul..no way they move him without that kind of return.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:28 pm
BluesDom wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:23 pm I dont want a haul for Thomas.
If I give up Thomas--I want one player equal to Thomas--or it makes no sense.
We need quality not quantity. We have draft pics galore. Need a #1 Center. #1 winger.
Any player coming back likely won’t be equal to Thomas for at least a couple of years. I think they want to add someone in the 20-22 age range. Return is gonna be a haul..no way they move him without that kind of return.
Scary to me. I can see Kyrou--but Thomas?
So hard to find a number 1 center. We dont have one.
The more I think about it--makes little sense.

Need 1 center--no need for a haul imho. Organization is crowded already with prospects. We need NHL players and good ones. We have depth.
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Thomas should be the last guy we trade. Unless the return is a younger replacement, second their prospect and top picks.

What worries me is Army.
Both Our best players(drafted) came from the same we change Era.
No Prospects(youth) Army has drafted or traded for has proved to be anything more then a third liner. Outside the the change(not him) Era

So maybe let Army trade just Schenn, Binner, a fourth liber or two, maybe try to lose a bad contract without giving up any more of Steen's picks. Then Let Steen handle any big thing in the Summer.

I think all the talk of Thomas comes from what other teams are asking about. Hopefully the guy the sells locals on his greatness can sell off his great stuff as other teams needed piece for a cup run.
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Re: Friedman on Thomas

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:28 pm
BluesDom wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:23 pm I dont want a haul for Thomas.
If I give up Thomas--I want one player equal to Thomas--or it makes no sense.
We need quality not quantity. We have draft pics galore. Need a #1 Center. #1 winger.
Any player coming back likely won’t be equal to Thomas for at least a couple of years. I think they want to add someone in the 20-22 age range. Return is gonna be a haul..no way they move him without that kind of return.
I just don't see the smoke and it's more water vapors. Blues are the easy target since they had some of the higher expectations of the teams not making it and they are the only wants that haven't publicly said uncle. But, the difference between the Blues and the other teams around them. They are the ones that are the most injured. Value is definitely more muddled with the Blues than any other team. There's no difference between Thomas and Kyle Connor. If I started posting on a bunch of random websites that the Jets would trade Connor but it would have to be a haul. It would be the exact same thing that is being said about Thomas. People who have 0 sources saying that it's a possibility, but it's a high profile player on a team that's not going to the playoffs. But Connor is going to the Olympics, people aren't going to talk about that right now.
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Re: Friedman on Thomas

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BluesDom wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:34 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:28 pm
BluesDom wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:23 pm I dont want a haul for Thomas.
If I give up Thomas--I want one player equal to Thomas--or it makes no sense.
We need quality not quantity. We have draft pics galore. Need a #1 Center. #1 winger.
Any player coming back likely won’t be equal to Thomas for at least a couple of years. I think they want to add someone in the 20-22 age range. Return is gonna be a haul..no way they move him without that kind of return.
Scary to me. I can see Kyrou--but Thomas?
So hard to find a number 1 center. We dont have one.
The more I think about it--makes little sense.

Need 1 center--no need for a haul imho. Organization is crowded already with prospects. We need NHL players and good ones. We have depth.
If they move Thomas, I would think they are getting who they feel is future a #1 center. Honestly, there aren’t many young guys I would trade him for but Michael Hage is definitely one guy that I would…obviously we’d be getting back more than Hage.
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Re: Friedman on Thomas

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:38 pm
BluesDom wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:34 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:28 pm
BluesDom wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:23 pm I dont want a haul for Thomas.
If I give up Thomas--I want one player equal to Thomas--or it makes no sense.
We need quality not quantity. We have draft pics galore. Need a #1 Center. #1 winger.
Any player coming back likely won’t be equal to Thomas for at least a couple of years. I think they want to add someone in the 20-22 age range. Return is gonna be a haul..no way they move him without that kind of return.
Scary to me. I can see Kyrou--but Thomas?
So hard to find a number 1 center. We dont have one.
The more I think about it--makes little sense.

Need 1 center--no need for a haul imho. Organization is crowded already with prospects. We need NHL players and good ones. We have depth.
If they move Thomas, I would think they are getting who they feel is future a #1 center. Honestly, there aren’t many young guys I would trade him for but Michael Hage is definitely one guy that I would…obviously we’d be getting back more than Hage.
makes sense. Hage looks pretty good.
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Re: Friedman on Thomas

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Cahokanut wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:37 pm I think all the talk of Thomas comes from what other teams are asking about.
The Blues have said Thomas is available

Everyone is … as they should be
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Re: Friedman on Thomas

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Cahokanut wrote: 23 Jan 2026 15:37 pm Thomas should be the last guy we trade. Unless the return is a younger replacement, second their prospect and top picks.

What worries me is Army.
Both Our best players(drafted) came from the same we change Era.
No Prospects(youth) Army has drafted or traded for has proved to be anything more then a third liner. Outside the the change(not him) Era

So maybe let Army trade just Schenn, Binner, a fourth liber or two, maybe try to lose a bad contract without giving up any more of Steen's picks. Then Let Steen handle any big thing in the Summer.

I think all the talk of Thomas comes from what other teams are asking about. Hopefully the guy the sells locals on his greatness can sell off his great stuff as other teams needed piece for a cup run.
Hmm, just fundamentally untrue. Offer sheet is essentially a trade of draft picks and Hollywood is most certainly a top 6 guy when healthy. He proved that last year. It's way too early to decide is Snuggy is top 6 but based off of his ability to get the shot off the last 7 games, it's coming. Kyrou might not be a 1st liner but he is a 2nd liner. Buchy isn't a 1st liner, but he is a 2nd liner. Your doom and gloom is a bit too far. Neighbours 2nd liner? Definitely a middle 6 guy.

Army's problem has been his inability to put together a number 1 line. I've been saying it for 3 years now. Dallas had the model. They threw out a number 1 line 3 years ago, and had 3 lines of 4th liners. Their number 1 line scored more than the other 3 combined. They got to the playoffs. They then filled out around that line. That's where Army has made his mistake. It seems like we have filled out from the middle, and the only line that benefitted from that is the 4th line. Every year it seems like the 4th line kicks above it's coverage. But it's because it's semi 3rd liners playing down there.
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