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What's the sweetener to get rid of...

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Buchenvich and Kyrou?
Buchenvich I'm guessing eating half of his salary and a second rounder for a late first rounder and a salary dump expiring contract. Kyrou on the other hand I'm thinking we have to go the other way and offer the same late 1st round pick, and a third for a top 20 player...or maybe Thomas and Kyrou for Keller and a first or do you just do Thomas and a first for Austin Matthews ? In reality it probably better to bring back Reeves and let him beat the (bleep) out of these guys in practice until they start putting in some effort? I truly hope this team is throwing games for a low draft pick because if they are not it's going to be a long 3-4 years. You almost have to be a masochist to keep watching them😐
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Take Laine’s contract which is expiring and get some picks (which the Habs have) for Kyrou.

Buchnevich has too much term to be desirable for clubs.
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StLouis-4Life2 wrote: 20 Jan 2026 20:52 pm Buchenvich and Kyrou?
Buchenvich I'm guessing eating half of his salary and a second rounder for a late first rounder and a salary dump expiring contract. Kyrou on the other hand I'm thinking we have to go the other way and offer the same late 1st round pick, and a third for a top 20 player...or maybe Thomas and Kyrou for Keller and a first or do you just do Thomas and a first for Austin Matthews ? In reality it probably better to bring back Reeves and let him beat the (bleep) out of these guys in practice until they start putting in some effort? I truly hope this team is throwing games for a low draft pick because if they are not it's going to be a long 3-4 years. You almost have to be a masochist to keep watching them😐
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You wouldnt have to pay to dump Kyrou.

You likely get a similar "problem" player back or an over priced vet with some futures.

Buch i think would be another where you swap contracts.

Tbh i just want kyrou moved asap and we go from there.
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StLouis-4Life2 wrote: 20 Jan 2026 20:52 pm Buchenvich and Kyrou?
Buchenvich I'm guessing eating half of his salary and a second rounder for a late first rounder and a salary dump expiring contract. Kyrou on the other hand I'm thinking we have to go the other way and offer the same late 1st round pick, and a third for a top 20 player...or maybe Thomas and Kyrou for Keller and a first or do you just do Thomas and a first for Austin Matthews ? In reality it probably better to bring back Reeves and let him beat the (bleep) out of these guys in practice until they start putting in some effort? I truly hope this team is throwing games for a low draft pick because if they are not it's going to be a long 3-4 years. You almost have to be a masochist to keep watching them😐
I keep saying this and I really do think this is both realistic and the best option. Send Pavel Buchnevich to the waiver wire. If someone takes him, great. More likely I think is that no one takes him, then assign him immediately to the Everblades, yep the ECHL. The why is very simple, your making an example of him. You are still paying him but you do get 1 million in cap relief. Make it clear to Pavel if his game returns he may get an opportunity to show what he can to do in the AHL and if he performs there the NHL. People howl about Kryou, but Kryou as bad as he has played is not the albatross that Buchnevich has been. If Pavel refuses the assignment terminate the contract immediately. If he accepts it then let him play out the contract you signed him for and see where the chips fall. This also opens a spot for a young guy and PLAY A YOUNG GUY. Don't replace him with an aging washed up project veteran reclamation project.

With Kryou, I would seriously stop scapegoating him and just play him. Play him with a fixed line and may I suggest that you put him back on a line with Holloway? Stop this line shifting. I know the coach loves it but the proof is in the pudding, we have problems everywhere now and the guys don't play like they know each other at all. Stop this insanity, try something different. Above all don't sacrifice young assets for getting out of mistakes. That just digs the hole deeper.
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MandatoryDenial wrote: 21 Jan 2026 07:17 am
StLouis-4Life2 wrote: 20 Jan 2026 20:52 pm Buchenvich and Kyrou?
Buchenvich I'm guessing eating half of his salary and a second rounder for a late first rounder and a salary dump expiring contract. Kyrou on the other hand I'm thinking we have to go the other way and offer the same late 1st round pick, and a third for a top 20 player...or maybe Thomas and Kyrou for Keller and a first or do you just do Thomas and a first for Austin Matthews ? In reality it probably better to bring back Reeves and let him beat the (bleep) out of these guys in practice until they start putting in some effort? I truly hope this team is throwing games for a low draft pick because if they are not it's going to be a long 3-4 years. You almost have to be a masochist to keep watching them😐
I keep saying this and I really do think this is both realistic and the best option. Send Pavel Buchnevich to the waiver wire. If someone takes him, great. More likely I think is that no one takes him, then assign him immediately to the Everblades, yep the ECHL. The why is very simple, your making an example of him. You are still paying him but you do get 1 million in cap relief. Make it clear to Pavel if his game returns he may get an opportunity to show what he can to do in the AHL and if he performs there the NHL. People howl about Kryou, but Kryou as bad as he has played is not the albatross that Buchnevich has been. If Pavel refuses the assignment terminate the contract immediately. If he accepts it then let him play out the contract you signed him for and see where the chips fall. This also opens a spot for a young guy and PLAY A YOUNG GUY. Don't replace him with an aging washed up project veteran reclamation project.

With Kryou, I would seriously stop scapegoating him and just play him. Play him with a fixed line and may I suggest that you put him back on a line with Holloway? Stop this line shifting. I know the coach loves it but the proof is in the pudding, we have problems everywhere now and the guys don't play like they know each other at all. Stop this insanity, try something different. Above all don't sacrifice young assets for getting out of mistakes. That just digs the hole deeper.
Odds of Buch being sent to the ECHL as punishment aren't about zero, they are zero.
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MandatoryDenial wrote: 21 Jan 2026 07:17 am
StLouis-4Life2 wrote: 20 Jan 2026 20:52 pm Buchenvich and Kyrou?
Buchenvich I'm guessing eating half of his salary and a second rounder for a late first rounder and a salary dump expiring contract. Kyrou on the other hand I'm thinking we have to go the other way and offer the same late 1st round pick, and a third for a top 20 player...or maybe Thomas and Kyrou for Keller and a first or do you just do Thomas and a first for Austin Matthews ? In reality it probably better to bring back Reeves and let him beat the (bleep) out of these guys in practice until they start putting in some effort? I truly hope this team is throwing games for a low draft pick because if they are not it's going to be a long 3-4 years. You almost have to be a masochist to keep watching them😐
I keep saying this and I really do think this is both realistic and the best option. Send Pavel Buchnevich to the waiver wire. If someone takes him, great. More likely I think is that no one takes him, then assign him immediately to the Everblades, yep the ECHL. The why is very simple, your making an example of him. You are still paying him but you do get 1 million in cap relief. Make it clear to Pavel if his game returns he may get an opportunity to show what he can to do in the AHL and if he performs there the NHL. People howl about Kryou, but Kryou as bad as he has played is not the albatross that Buchnevich has been. If Pavel refuses the assignment terminate the contract immediately. If he accepts it then let him play out the contract you signed him for and see where the chips fall. This also opens a spot for a young guy and PLAY A YOUNG GUY. Don't replace him with an aging washed up project veteran reclamation project.
Yes, by all means, do this if you want to ruin the organization's reputation and become the #1 enemy of the Player's Union :roll: .
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Its highly likely that both Buch and Kyrou are here next season. Hopefully this season is more of an aberration vs their career output than the new norm. Both are having terrible seasons, both have NTCs why would another GM want them? I would do a deal certainly but wouldnt eat any salary or include any sweeteners to move them. Esp for Kyrou i would want a pretty substantial package back otherwise id keep him.
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I have feeling that Buch will be here next season, as it seems that Monty likes Buch. Kyrou is definitely gone, maybe trade at the deadline.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:03 am Esp for Kyrou i would want a pretty substantial package back otherwise id keep him.
He’s unhappy and the Blues are unhappy. Let him go. There’s no substantial package to be had.
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The time to get a substantial package for Kyrou has long passed with Army asleep at the wheel on it.

I don’t think moving him will be very painful but it will be a lateral move at best and the real value will likely be draft capital coming back.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:12 am The time to get a substantial package for Kyrou has long passed with Army asleep at the wheel on it.

I don’t think moving him will be very painful but it will be a lateral move at best and the real value will likely be draft capital coming back.
He’s a winger that the organization hurt the value of. Now Armstrong has hurt everyone further by dragging it out. He’s a very frustrating manager much of the time.

Just do it already. You’ve dragged this out for years now
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theograce wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:16 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:12 am The time to get a substantial package for Kyrou has long passed with Army asleep at the wheel on it.

I don’t think moving him will be very painful but it will be a lateral move at best and the real value will likely be draft capital coming back.
He’s a winger that the organization hurt the value of. Now Armstrong has hurt everyone further by dragging it out. He’s a very frustrating manager much of the time.

Just do it already. You’ve dragged this out for years now
What does it accomplish to just dump him for whatever? Binner is the one that should have been moved after that outburst with Monty a while back. His value is zero. Probably retaining salary there.
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Bacchk29 wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:29 am
theograce wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:16 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:12 am The time to get a substantial package for Kyrou has long passed with Army asleep at the wheel on it.

I don’t think moving him will be very painful but it will be a lateral move at best and the real value will likely be draft capital coming back.
He’s a winger that the organization hurt the value of. Now Armstrong has hurt everyone further by dragging it out. He’s a very frustrating manager much of the time.

Just do it already. You’ve dragged this out for years now
What does it accomplish to just dump him for whatever? Binner is the one that should have been moved after that outburst with Monty a while back. His value is zero. Probably retaining salary there.
They’ve been trying to trade him for years now. I think the point is obvious. Both sides aren’t happy. Laine and picks would be more than acceptable given the situation
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MiamiLaw wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:12 am The time to get a substantial package for Kyrou has long passed with Army asleep at the wheel on it.

I don’t think moving him will be very painful but it will be a lateral move at best and the real value will likely be draft capital coming back.
How specifically was Army asleep at the wheel?
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steve li wrote: 21 Jan 2026 11:36 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 21 Jan 2026 09:12 am The time to get a substantial package for Kyrou has long passed with Army asleep at the wheel on it.

I don’t think moving him will be very painful but it will be a lateral move at best and the real value will likely be draft capital coming back.
How specifically was Army asleep at the wheel?
Well, we know he was not included in the offer for Matt Tkachuk
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