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dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:47 am He did a great job on the Carolina break out 2 on 1 as the announcer said. Also a big block on a high danger shot.

Carolina was all over them I saw plenty of "failed clearings" all night from the D in general. Tucker had a lot of issues all night.

Again, the talent is there for Mailloux ....he has to find a way to unleash it. He needs the ice time to do that.
Really calling out Tucker particularly? I’m surprised. That was one of his best games this year imo. Got an assist and a +2.

As to 23, he has some physical tools. But his hockey sense is clearly poor. And that was the knock on him. Whether he puts it together, we’ll see. I hope so. He’s got size and moves well for it. That can go a long way for a d man.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:53 am
dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:47 am He did a great job on the Carolina break out 2 on 1 as the announcer said. Also a big block on a high danger shot.

Carolina was all over them I saw plenty of "failed clearings" all night from the D in general. Tucker had a lot of issues all night.

Again, the talent is there for Mailloux ....he has to find a way to unleash it. He needs the ice time to do that.
Really calling out Tucker particularly? I’m surprised. That was one of his best games this year imo. Got an assist and a +2.

As to 23, he has some physical tools. But his hockey sense is clearly poor. And that was the knock on him. Whether he puts it together, we’ll see. I hope so. He’s got size and moves well for it. That can go a long way for a d man.
Referencing some noted turnovers and missed pucks on Tucker. All in all the D played well both blue line and forwards and Hofer. Mailloux was paired with Kessel most all night as well.
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dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:56 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:53 am
dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:47 am He did a great job on the Carolina break out 2 on 1 as the announcer said. Also a big block on a high danger shot.

Carolina was all over them I saw plenty of "failed clearings" all night from the D in general. Tucker had a lot of issues all night.

Again, the talent is there for Mailloux ....he has to find a way to unleash it. He needs the ice time to do that.
Really calling out Tucker particularly? I’m surprised. That was one of his best games this year imo. Got an assist and a +2.

As to 23, he has some physical tools. But his hockey sense is clearly poor. And that was the knock on him. Whether he puts it together, we’ll see. I hope so. He’s got size and moves well for it. That can go a long way for a d man.
Referencing some noted turnovers and missed pucks on Tucker. All in all the D played well both blue line and forwards and Hofer. Mailloux was paired with Kessel most all night as well.
Ok but if Mailloux was a +2 with an assist, I would be able to easily overlook the shift I pointed out. People keep saying I have an agenda but the stats (ie the objective things that don’t care what we all think or any so-called agenda) agree with what I’m seeing.

I’d say the people who insist Mailloux is doing all these great things have an agenda. They’re letting their Blues fan bias cloud their judgment. If he was on another team, I have a feeling many more people would be saying what I am.

We all want him to do well. And maybe he will. But he hasn’t shown a whole lot that indicates it’s particularly likely. I don’t see why everyone needs to try and pretend he has. If he does though, I’ll be thrilled
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This team isn't going anywhere so playing him makes sense. He's done well in the AHL already so it's time to see what he does in the NHL over 150-200 games. It's an adjustment for every player but D just need more exposure to develop. You just have to live with the mistakes and hope they diminish over time and that he becomes more confident/productive offensively.
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LGB73 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 09:33 am This team isn't going anywhere so playing him makes sense. He's done well in the AHL already so it's time to see what he does in the NHL over 150-200 games. It's an adjustment for every player but D just need more exposure to develop. You just have to live with the mistakes and hope they diminish over time and that he becomes more confident/productive offensively.
I think it’s absurd to give any player 3 years time to find out if they develop into a NHL caliber player. Most coaching/ personnel guys can tell within a year.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 08:08 am
dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:56 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:53 am
dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:47 am He did a great job on the Carolina break out 2 on 1 as the announcer said. Also a big block on a high danger shot.

Carolina was all over them I saw plenty of "failed clearings" all night from the D in general. Tucker had a lot of issues all night.

Again, the talent is there for Mailloux ....he has to find a way to unleash it. He needs the ice time to do that.
Really calling out Tucker particularly? I’m surprised. That was one of his best games this year imo. Got an assist and a +2.

As to 23, he has some physical tools. But his hockey sense is clearly poor. And that was the knock on him. Whether he puts it together, we’ll see. I hope so. He’s got size and moves well for it. That can go a long way for a d man.
Referencing some noted turnovers and missed pucks on Tucker. All in all the D played well both blue line and forwards and Hofer. Mailloux was paired with Kessel most all night as well.
Ok but if Mailloux was a +2 with an assist, I would be able to easily overlook the shift I pointed out. People keep saying I have an agenda but the stats (ie the objective things that don’t care what we all think or any so-called agenda) agree with what I’m seeing.

I’d say the people who insist Mailloux is doing all these great things have an agenda. They’re letting their Blues fan bias cloud their judgment. If he was on another team, I have a feeling many more people would be saying what I am.

We all want him to do well. And maybe he will. But he hasn’t shown a whole lot that indicates it’s particularly likely. I don’t see why everyone needs to try and pretend he has. If he does though, I’ll be thrilled
I was at the game last night so I was able to watch the entire ice coverage (which is good) but I didn't have the benefit of replay (which is bad).
Just a couple Mailloux observations:
1. He played with Kessel most of the night.
2. Even though Mailloux was playing his off side (left)...he seemed to position himself fine. It was obvious he was trying to keep the game simple.
3. He had the puck once in the offensive zone in between the dots and CHOSE not to "let it rip"....he passed it left down low....Our entire section was like "what is he doing...shoot the puck". So offensively...he played somewhat timid. I don't know if he did that pass out of lack of confidence..or fear of making a mistake. Not a mind reader from section 120.

Just my observations.
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Give it a [fork]ing rest already. We get it. You dont like mailloux. :roll:
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Bubble4427 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 09:47 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 08:08 am
dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:56 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:53 am
dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:47 am He did a great job on the Carolina break out 2 on 1 as the announcer said. Also a big block on a high danger shot.

Carolina was all over them I saw plenty of "failed clearings" all night from the D in general. Tucker had a lot of issues all night.

Again, the talent is there for Mailloux ....he has to find a way to unleash it. He needs the ice time to do that.
Really calling out Tucker particularly? I’m surprised. That was one of his best games this year imo. Got an assist and a +2.

As to 23, he has some physical tools. But his hockey sense is clearly poor. And that was the knock on him. Whether he puts it together, we’ll see. I hope so. He’s got size and moves well for it. That can go a long way for a d man.
Referencing some noted turnovers and missed pucks on Tucker. All in all the D played well both blue line and forwards and Hofer. Mailloux was paired with Kessel most all night as well.
Ok but if Mailloux was a +2 with an assist, I would be able to easily overlook the shift I pointed out. People keep saying I have an agenda but the stats (ie the objective things that don’t care what we all think or any so-called agenda) agree with what I’m seeing.

I’d say the people who insist Mailloux is doing all these great things have an agenda. They’re letting their Blues fan bias cloud their judgment. If he was on another team, I have a feeling many more people would be saying what I am.

We all want him to do well. And maybe he will. But he hasn’t shown a whole lot that indicates it’s particularly likely. I don’t see why everyone needs to try and pretend he has. If he does though, I’ll be thrilled
I was at the game last night so I was able to watch the entire ice coverage (which is good) but I didn't have the benefit of replay (which is bad).
Just a couple Mailloux observations:
1. He played with Kessel most of the night.
2. Even though Mailloux was playing his off side (left)...he seemed to position himself fine. It was obvious he was trying to keep the game simple.
3. He had the puck once in the offensive zone in between the dots and CHOSE not to "let it rip"....he passed it left down low....Our entire section was like "what is he doing...shoot the puck". So offensively...he played somewhat timid. I don't know if he did that pass out of lack of confidence..or fear of making a mistake. Not a mind reader from section 120.

Just my observations.
I have been very disappointed that we haven't gotten to see what he can do offensively. Whether that is the team or him, I am not sure at this point. But yea, the expected and understandable growing pains on defense would be so much more palatable.
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Bacchk29 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 09:41 am
LGB73 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 09:33 am This team isn't going anywhere so playing him makes sense. He's done well in the AHL already so it's time to see what he does in the NHL over 150-200 games. It's an adjustment for every player but D just need more exposure to develop. You just have to live with the mistakes and hope they diminish over time and that he becomes more confident/productive offensively.
I think it’s absurd to give any player 3 years time to find out if they develop into a NHL caliber player. Most coaching/ personnel guys can tell within a year.
And yet we've seen a couple D prospects dealt before they've had that many games go on to be good defensemen. Heck it took Thomas several years before he was putting up top 6 numbers.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 08:08 am
dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:56 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:53 am
dhsux wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:47 am He did a great job on the Carolina break out 2 on 1 as the announcer said. Also a big block on a high danger shot.

Carolina was all over them I saw plenty of "failed clearings" all night from the D in general. Tucker had a lot of issues all night.

Again, the talent is there for Mailloux ....he has to find a way to unleash it. He needs the ice time to do that.
Really calling out Tucker particularly? I’m surprised. That was one of his best games this year imo. Got an assist and a +2.

As to 23, he has some physical tools. But his hockey sense is clearly poor. And that was the knock on him. Whether he puts it together, we’ll see. I hope so. He’s got size and moves well for it. That can go a long way for a d man.
Referencing some noted turnovers and missed pucks on Tucker. All in all the D played well both blue line and forwards and Hofer. Mailloux was paired with Kessel most all night as well.
Ok but if Mailloux was a +2 with an assist, I would be able to easily overlook the shift I pointed out. People keep saying I have an agenda but the stats (ie the objective things that don’t care what we all think or any so-called agenda) agree with what I’m seeing.

I’d say the people who insist Mailloux is doing all these great things have an agenda. They’re letting their Blues fan bias cloud their judgment. If he was on another team, I have a feeling many more people would be saying what I am.

We all want him to do well. And maybe he will. But he hasn’t shown a whole lot that indicates it’s particularly likely. I don’t see why everyone needs to try and pretend he has. If he does though, I’ll be thrilled
If you were rating by the eye test out yesterday went between Kessel/Tucker/LM I would say Tucker had the best day, LM had a good day, and Kessel looked kind of bad. Tucker found himself in good spots offensively yesterday and laid a couple big hits. LM had the really really good 2v1 almost 3v1 play that shut the break down and committed a penalty that was a little ticky tacky but it happened. Kessel had 2 shifts where if it was a tie game or 1 goal game, he might not have been allowed to be back out there. Caused a 2+ minute hem in the zone and had 2 turnovers on another shift.

I don't like looking at these things in a vacuum tho, because it was probably the best Blues game of the year. But that doesn't mean anything until you can put 3 or 4 of those together. I will say this and it doesn't add to the discussion. But anyone who has watched the last 3 games. This is the best 3 game stretch the Blues have played of hockey period to period all season. It has led to a 2-4 L 2-4 L 3-0 W. So take that for what it's worth. 3 good games of hockey and 1-2
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 14 Jan 2026 11:07 am
If you were rating by the eye test out yesterday went between Kessel/Tucker/LM I would say Tucker had the best day, LM had a good day, and Kessel looked kind of bad. Tucker found himself in good spots offensively yesterday and laid a couple big hits. LM had the really really good 2v1 almost 3v1 play that shut the break down and committed a penalty that was a little ticky tacky but it happened. Kessel had 2 shifts where if it was a tie game or 1 goal game, he might not have been allowed to be back out there. Caused a 2+ minute hem in the zone and had 2 turnovers on another shift.

I don't like looking at these things in a vacuum tho, because it was probably the best Blues game of the year. But that doesn't mean anything until you can put 3 or 4 of those together. I will say this and it doesn't add to the discussion. But anyone who has watched the last 3 games. This is the best 3 game stretch the Blues have played of hockey period to period all season. It has led to a 2-4 L 2-4 L 3-0 W. So take that for what it's worth. 3 good games of hockey and 1-2
Cutting down the chain to avoid clogging it up. I have no problem with the penalty LM took. Defenders take penalties. Oshie put it right when he said that was one where the team is probably hyped to bail him out. But as to Kessel, he did get more ice time than 23 and that usually is indicative of what the coaches think about the game they are having. Between Kessel and Mailloux, yea I can point out good and bad for both.

Seems like in general that the team has woken up a bit after the Hawks embarrassed them. The schedule gets a lot tougher now though so they are going to need it.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:33 am It was the shift right after the 10 minute mark. Every time it touched 23’s stick, it ended up back to Carolina. The shift where you said his backhand clear was knocked down. I wasn’t even counting that one.

He had two breakout passes prior to that. One hit Butch’s stick (89 not 29), and that one actually was on Buch on rewatch. Soft play. The next he just panic dumped out right to Carolina. Then the backhand knockdown you saw. Then he flubs a pass from Hofer and gives it right to Car.

Four times it touched 23’s stick. 4 times Carolina regained possession. Though again the first was more on Buch than I realized live.

Feel free to point out parts you saw him make a great play too. You said he played well in the first. I’d like to take a look. I’m trying to see what others are seeing that he is showing great potential.
Shift breakdown for first two periods
They did get stuck on the ice too long in the second. He still didn't make any terrible plays during these two periods. As far as the long shift if you want to be critical of him then there are 4 other players on that shift that had chances to get pucks deep.
I'm also not expecting him to be a top 4 D right now and I also realize he's probably focusing on not making a mistake. Which he didn't.
1st Period
Mailloux playing LD
17:45-16:40, Mailloux completed pass to 29 who got the puck deep.
17:19 Mailloux completed pass to 51 who got puck deep
16:54 Mailloux pinched in and completed pass to 29
16:40 Kessel lost the puck battle and Mailloux blocked a shot and puck went out of play
12:37-12:04, 12:15 Mailloux keeps puck in ozone with Chip to Schenn. Schenn skates with puck towards blueline and loses the puck. Mailloux breaks up 2 on 1
11:15-10:40, 10:47 Mailloux completes pass to Kessel, Kessel deflects puck towards Jake but the puck bounces and Canes gain possession
9:47-9:40, Didn’t touch puck
8:31-7:59, Didn’t touch puck
6:05-4:38, 5:50 poke checked puck from Jarvis, 4:42 completed pass out of zone to 54
3:00-2:20, 2:39 Chipped puck to Stenberg in Dzone who chipped puck to where Schenn was, Schenn couldn’t gain control of puck
2nd period
Logan Mailloux playing LD
18:18 Mailloux takes penalty
16:18-15:30, 15:38 Hofer sent pass out of reach of Mailloux, Canes gain possession for a SOG
12:52-11:56, 12:21 54 passes puck to Mailloux in front of Blues net, Mailloux passes to 25 who then puts the puck on a Canes stick. Kessel was a part of 2 giveaways this shift that the announcers mentioned.
10:52-8:22, 10:10 Mailloux chips puck to Kessel on the boards who chips puck to 29 at blue line. Puck gets out but Canes have possession. 9:47 Mailloux chips puck to Kessel, Kessel flips puck outside blue line but Canes gain possession. 9:36 Hofer passes to Mailloux, Mailloux banks puck out to redline to Buch who tip the puck to center ice where the canes gain possession. 9:28 Kessel banks puck to Mailloux who chips puck out to blue line where Buch deflects puck to a Canes player just inside their blueline. 9:20 Mailloux lifts puck high towards blueline but Canes player knocks it down. 8:52 Mailloux tries to hit bouncing puck out of zone but puck is kept in. 8:49 Sunny attempts to poke puck out of zone. 8:48 Mailloux attempts to poke puck out of zone
6:49-5:44, 6:37 Mailloux pinches in and sends puck to corner. 6:04 Mailloux sends puck out of zone where 13 deflects puck in deep
3:29-3:00, Didn’t touch puck
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Bluesfan1978 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 11:21 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:33 am It was the shift right after the 10 minute mark. Every time it touched 23’s stick, it ended up back to Carolina. The shift where you said his backhand clear was knocked down. I wasn’t even counting that one.

He had two breakout passes prior to that. One hit Butch’s stick (89 not 29), and that one actually was on Buch on rewatch. Soft play. The next he just panic dumped out right to Carolina. Then the backhand knockdown you saw. Then he flubs a pass from Hofer and gives it right to Car.

Four times it touched 23’s stick. 4 times Carolina regained possession. Though again the first was more on Buch than I realized live.

Feel free to point out parts you saw him make a great play too. You said he played well in the first. I’d like to take a look. I’m trying to see what others are seeing that he is showing great potential.
Shift breakdown for first two periods
They did get stuck on the ice too long in the second. He still didn't make any terrible plays during these two periods. As far as the long shift if you want to be critical of him then there are 4 other players on that shift that had chances to get pucks deep.
I'm also not expecting him to be a top 4 D right now and I also realize he's probably focusing on not making a mistake. Which he didn't.
1st Period
Mailloux playing LD
17:45-16:40, Mailloux completed pass to 29 who got the puck deep.
17:19 Mailloux completed pass to 51 who got puck deep
16:54 Mailloux pinched in and completed pass to 29
16:40 Kessel lost the puck battle and Mailloux blocked a shot and puck went out of play
12:37-12:04, 12:15 Mailloux keeps puck in ozone with Chip to Schenn. Schenn skates with puck towards blueline and loses the puck. Mailloux breaks up 2 on 1
11:15-10:40, 10:47 Mailloux completes pass to Kessel, Kessel deflects puck towards Jake but the puck bounces and Canes gain possession
9:47-9:40, Didn’t touch puck
8:31-7:59, Didn’t touch puck
6:05-4:38, 5:50 poke checked puck from Jarvis, 4:42 completed pass out of zone to 54
3:00-2:20, 2:39 Chipped puck to Stenberg in Dzone who chipped puck to where Schenn was, Schenn couldn’t gain control of puck
2nd period
Logan Mailloux playing LD
18:18 Mailloux takes penalty
16:18-15:30, 15:38 Hofer sent pass out of reach of Mailloux, Canes gain possession for a SOG
12:52-11:56, 12:21 54 passes puck to Mailloux in front of Blues net, Mailloux passes to 25 who then puts the puck on a Canes stick. Kessel was a part of 2 giveaways this shift that the announcers mentioned.
10:52-8:22, 10:10 Mailloux chips puck to Kessel on the boards who chips puck to 29 at blue line. Puck gets out but Canes have possession. 9:47 Mailloux chips puck to Kessel, Kessel flips puck outside blue line but Canes gain possession. 9:36 Hofer passes to Mailloux, Mailloux banks puck out to redline to Buch who tip the puck to center ice where the canes gain possession. 9:28 Kessel banks puck to Mailloux who chips puck out to blue line where Buch deflects puck to a Canes player just inside their blueline. 9:20 Mailloux lifts puck high towards blueline but Canes player knocks it down. 8:52 Mailloux tries to hit bouncing puck out of zone but puck is kept in. 8:49 Sunny attempts to poke puck out of zone. 8:48 Mailloux attempts to poke puck out of zone
6:49-5:44, 6:37 Mailloux pinches in and sends puck to corner. 6:04 Mailloux sends puck out of zone where 13 deflects puck in deep
3:29-3:00, Didn’t touch puck
Appreciate this. And I promise I will review all of these.

But at least to the bolded part, come on man. At the very least you have to admit that was a misplay. He completely mishandled a routine bank pass from Hofer. The way you put this makes me think you are not being objective about this. "Tries to hit a bouncing puck"?? How about, "mishandles a ten foot bank off the boards from Hofer and fails to clear". That is a much more accurate description. Your descriptions of what is happening blame everyone except LM on that shift.

Is it your position that even though 4 times the puck was with him, and all four times the Canes ended up with possession right after, none of it was his fault at all? You seem to be able to point out when Kessel was making mistakes though (which I never claimed he didn't). In any event, I will review the other ones.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 11:31 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 11:21 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:33 am It was the shift right after the 10 minute mark. Every time it touched 23’s stick, it ended up back to Carolina. The shift where you said his backhand clear was knocked down. I wasn’t even counting that one.

He had two breakout passes prior to that. One hit Butch’s stick (89 not 29), and that one actually was on Buch on rewatch. Soft play. The next he just panic dumped out right to Carolina. Then the backhand knockdown you saw. Then he flubs a pass from Hofer and gives it right to Car.

Four times it touched 23’s stick. 4 times Carolina regained possession. Though again the first was more on Buch than I realized live.

Feel free to point out parts you saw him make a great play too. You said he played well in the first. I’d like to take a look. I’m trying to see what others are seeing that he is showing great potential.
Shift breakdown for first two periods
They did get stuck on the ice too long in the second. He still didn't make any terrible plays during these two periods. As far as the long shift if you want to be critical of him then there are 4 other players on that shift that had chances to get pucks deep.
I'm also not expecting him to be a top 4 D right now and I also realize he's probably focusing on not making a mistake. Which he didn't.
1st Period
Mailloux playing LD
17:45-16:40, Mailloux completed pass to 29 who got the puck deep.
17:19 Mailloux completed pass to 51 who got puck deep
16:54 Mailloux pinched in and completed pass to 29
16:40 Kessel lost the puck battle and Mailloux blocked a shot and puck went out of play
12:37-12:04, 12:15 Mailloux keeps puck in ozone with Chip to Schenn. Schenn skates with puck towards blueline and loses the puck. Mailloux breaks up 2 on 1
11:15-10:40, 10:47 Mailloux completes pass to Kessel, Kessel deflects puck towards Jake but the puck bounces and Canes gain possession
9:47-9:40, Didn’t touch puck
8:31-7:59, Didn’t touch puck
6:05-4:38, 5:50 poke checked puck from Jarvis, 4:42 completed pass out of zone to 54
3:00-2:20, 2:39 Chipped puck to Stenberg in Dzone who chipped puck to where Schenn was, Schenn couldn’t gain control of puck
2nd period
Logan Mailloux playing LD
18:18 Mailloux takes penalty
16:18-15:30, 15:38 Hofer sent pass out of reach of Mailloux, Canes gain possession for a SOG
12:52-11:56, 12:21 54 passes puck to Mailloux in front of Blues net, Mailloux passes to 25 who then puts the puck on a Canes stick. Kessel was a part of 2 giveaways this shift that the announcers mentioned.
10:52-8:22, 10:10 Mailloux chips puck to Kessel on the boards who chips puck to 29 at blue line. Puck gets out but Canes have possession. 9:47 Mailloux chips puck to Kessel, Kessel flips puck outside blue line but Canes gain possession. 9:36 Hofer passes to Mailloux, Mailloux banks puck out to redline to Buch who tip the puck to center ice where the canes gain possession. 9:28 Kessel banks puck to Mailloux who chips puck out to blue line where Buch deflects puck to a Canes player just inside their blueline. 9:20 Mailloux lifts puck high towards blueline but Canes player knocks it down. 8:52 Mailloux tries to hit bouncing puck out of zone but puck is kept in. 8:49 Sunny attempts to poke puck out of zone. 8:48 Mailloux attempts to poke puck out of zone
6:49-5:44, 6:37 Mailloux pinches in and sends puck to corner. 6:04 Mailloux sends puck out of zone where 13 deflects puck in deep
3:29-3:00, Didn’t touch puck
Appreciate this. And I promise I will review all of these.

But at least to the bolded part, come on man. At the very least you have to admit that was a misplay. He completely mishandled a routine bank pass from Hofer. The way you put this makes me think you are not being objective about this. "Tries to hit a bouncing puck"?? How about, "mishandles a ten foot bank off the boards from Hofer and fails to clear". That is a much more accurate description. Your descriptions of what is happening blame everyone except LM on that shift.

Is it your position that even though 4 times the puck was with him, and all four times the Canes ended up with possession right after, none of it was his fault at all? You seem to be able to point out when Kessel was making mistakes though (which I never claimed he didn't). In any event, I will review the other ones.
The puck was bouncing. What would you like me to say? On the Hofer pass that missed him he reach for it and the pass was still too far.
As far as the 4 touches if you are saying that’s on him then you need to be consistent and critique the other 7 players that were on the ice for parts of the 2.5 mins for what their role was during that time. It’s not all on Mailloux.
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Re: Mails shouldn’t be in the NHL right now

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Bacchk29 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 09:41 am
LGB73 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 09:33 am This team isn't going anywhere so playing him makes sense. He's done well in the AHL already so it's time to see what he does in the NHL over 150-200 games. It's an adjustment for every player but D just need more exposure to develop. You just have to live with the mistakes and hope they diminish over time and that he becomes more confident/productive offensively.
I think it’s absurd to give any player 3 years time to find out if they develop into a NHL caliber player. Most coaching/ personnel guys can tell within a year.
Adam Oates was -25 in his first 38 career NHL games.
Mailloux is -25 in his first 40, and a year younger than Oates was during that time — and playing a more difficult position.
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Re: Mails shouldn’t be in the NHL right now

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Bluesfan1978 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 11:42 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 11:31 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 14 Jan 2026 11:21 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 14 Jan 2026 07:33 am It was the shift right after the 10 minute mark. Every time it touched 23’s stick, it ended up back to Carolina. The shift where you said his backhand clear was knocked down. I wasn’t even counting that one.

He had two breakout passes prior to that. One hit Butch’s stick (89 not 29), and that one actually was on Buch on rewatch. Soft play. The next he just panic dumped out right to Carolina. Then the backhand knockdown you saw. Then he flubs a pass from Hofer and gives it right to Car.

Four times it touched 23’s stick. 4 times Carolina regained possession. Though again the first was more on Buch than I realized live.

Feel free to point out parts you saw him make a great play too. You said he played well in the first. I’d like to take a look. I’m trying to see what others are seeing that he is showing great potential.
Shift breakdown for first two periods
They did get stuck on the ice too long in the second. He still didn't make any terrible plays during these two periods. As far as the long shift if you want to be critical of him then there are 4 other players on that shift that had chances to get pucks deep.
I'm also not expecting him to be a top 4 D right now and I also realize he's probably focusing on not making a mistake. Which he didn't.
1st Period
Mailloux playing LD
17:45-16:40, Mailloux completed pass to 29 who got the puck deep.
17:19 Mailloux completed pass to 51 who got puck deep
16:54 Mailloux pinched in and completed pass to 29
16:40 Kessel lost the puck battle and Mailloux blocked a shot and puck went out of play
12:37-12:04, 12:15 Mailloux keeps puck in ozone with Chip to Schenn. Schenn skates with puck towards blueline and loses the puck. Mailloux breaks up 2 on 1
11:15-10:40, 10:47 Mailloux completes pass to Kessel, Kessel deflects puck towards Jake but the puck bounces and Canes gain possession
9:47-9:40, Didn’t touch puck
8:31-7:59, Didn’t touch puck
6:05-4:38, 5:50 poke checked puck from Jarvis, 4:42 completed pass out of zone to 54
3:00-2:20, 2:39 Chipped puck to Stenberg in Dzone who chipped puck to where Schenn was, Schenn couldn’t gain control of puck
2nd period
Logan Mailloux playing LD
18:18 Mailloux takes penalty
16:18-15:30, 15:38 Hofer sent pass out of reach of Mailloux, Canes gain possession for a SOG
12:52-11:56, 12:21 54 passes puck to Mailloux in front of Blues net, Mailloux passes to 25 who then puts the puck on a Canes stick. Kessel was a part of 2 giveaways this shift that the announcers mentioned.
10:52-8:22, 10:10 Mailloux chips puck to Kessel on the boards who chips puck to 29 at blue line. Puck gets out but Canes have possession. 9:47 Mailloux chips puck to Kessel, Kessel flips puck outside blue line but Canes gain possession. 9:36 Hofer passes to Mailloux, Mailloux banks puck out to redline to Buch who tip the puck to center ice where the canes gain possession. 9:28 Kessel banks puck to Mailloux who chips puck out to blue line where Buch deflects puck to a Canes player just inside their blueline. 9:20 Mailloux lifts puck high towards blueline but Canes player knocks it down. 8:52 Mailloux tries to hit bouncing puck out of zone but puck is kept in. 8:49 Sunny attempts to poke puck out of zone. 8:48 Mailloux attempts to poke puck out of zone
6:49-5:44, 6:37 Mailloux pinches in and sends puck to corner. 6:04 Mailloux sends puck out of zone where 13 deflects puck in deep
3:29-3:00, Didn’t touch puck
Appreciate this. And I promise I will review all of these.

But at least to the bolded part, come on man. At the very least you have to admit that was a misplay. He completely mishandled a routine bank pass from Hofer. The way you put this makes me think you are not being objective about this. "Tries to hit a bouncing puck"?? How about, "mishandles a ten foot bank off the boards from Hofer and fails to clear". That is a much more accurate description. Your descriptions of what is happening blame everyone except LM on that shift.

Is it your position that even though 4 times the puck was with him, and all four times the Canes ended up with possession right after, none of it was his fault at all? You seem to be able to point out when Kessel was making mistakes though (which I never claimed he didn't). In any event, I will review the other ones.
The puck was bouncing. What would you like me to say? On the Hofer pass that missed him he reach for it and the pass was still too far.
As far as the 4 touches if you are saying that’s on him then you need to be consistent and critique the other 7 players that were on the ice for parts of the 2.5 mins for what their role was during that time. It’s not all on Mailloux.
His sole objective on this forum is to bash mailloux, buchnevich, and sundqvist. It's not worth trying to reason with him.
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