Fire Monty

[Old_Goat]

I’d start with canning Ott and going from there.

I’m not really sure what Ott’s coaching message is, but it’s not working either.


I’d fire Ott and go from there

All of the posts above and yours are very good. From my recollection, yes Monty was the Power Play developer back then. He can do that on his own. (Geez where did all of these voices behind the bench and in practice come from??) Ott is the constant the past 3 seasons. Let Ott go IMMEDIATELY. That should strengthen in any players' minds that the Head Coach is here and if they want to be here then they have to get playing. Don't hire anyone else to replace Ott.
I don't know enough about the D coach, but I will say the results are not there, so watch & reevaluate him closely and start looking for another. But I have no idea what the heck the strategy is the past few months, so hopefully he just simplifies and gets back to basics. And similarly defensive zone strategy involves forwards too, so really Montgomery should be able to develop that and lead its implementation. The D-Coach should be there to guide individual's play...pointing out what they may be missing, or to work on, or to do differently, etc. in order to fit into the overall scheme; while Monty is doing the same with forwards.
I don't know enough about goalie coaches in general, other than evidently a psychology degree may be beneficial and pointing out reminding fine points of technique. I've heard good things, but it seems any reports about who's great around this team lately are suspect, so I'll withhold my thoughts on our Goalie Coach.
I'll summarize: Too many voices, too many rudder orders, figure out who compliments whom, put them together & keep them together and let them go. And Inglewood Jack is right, loosen the reins, but a couple of more thoroughbreds are needed to.

[DawgDad]

After watching [most] of last night's game what do you expect a new coach to do? What do you expect Army to do, other than trade some vets for younger talent?

It's a different guy every night. Last night Dvorsky got schooled, looked like a Junior out there.

Until the scoring drought ends it will be difficult to win with any consistency. Face it, for now at least they need a playmaking center and got Dvorsky instead. Not singling him out, he's merely an example from last night. They actually got a goal from Buchnevich on a pass feed so good even he couldn't miss. They got nothing from the PP. Again.

[Cahokanut]

They are not firing Monty. Even if they smelled some Jack. Because he is Army's dog. And he has been a loyal one.
He was also given the Army, To big to let go, loyalty contract.

However, all management, their assistants, every fake job for friends, and army loyal players, need to go. Army first.

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Monty's failure last year to ever get a handle on PK or 5 on 6 at the end of games cost them the 1st round exit against the Jets.

Now this year, this team cannot score and are terrible at defending the front of the net. They are dead last in scoring and in goal differential. In a lot of places, that gets the coach fired.

[smilinjoefission]

Fire Army...he's the problem.

[Army's Mom]

If they thought swapping assistant coaches would do anything, they'd have done so by now. People have been calling for Ott's head every downturn the past five years.

IMHO, he perseveres because Army knows Ott isnt the problem. And, all changing assistant coaches or Monty does is reinforce the view that coaches are expandable.

There are three guys who seem to dictate how the rest of this team plays.

When Thomas, Kyrou, and/or Binner are excelling, the rest of the team does well and we win.

When Kyrou, Binner, amd/or Thomas are struggling, the rest of the team plays like hot garbage.

Regardless of who the so-called leaders are, regardless of who speaks up in the room, those are the guys this team follows. They're the pivot points.

Trading one of them is necessary to shake things up. Maybe more than one.

[DawgDad]

If they thought swapping assistant coaches would do anything, they'd have done so by now. People have been calling for Ott's head every downturn the past five years.

IMHO, he perseveres because Army knows Ott isnt the problem. And, all changing assistant coaches or Monty does is reinforce the view that coaches are expandable.

There are three guys who seem to dictate how the rest of this team plays.

When Thomas, Kyrou, and/or Binner are excelling, the rest of the team does well and we win.

When Kyrou, Binner, amd/or Thomas are struggling, the rest of the team plays like hot garbage.

Regardless of who the so-called leaders are, regardless of who speaks up in the room, those are the guys this team follows. They're the pivot points.

Trading one of them is necessary to shake things up. Maybe more than one.

IMHO firing coaches and GMs in the middle of a planned transition is WAY off-target. Might as well fire the owners, too.

Stick to the plan. Trade vets when the plan calls for it. Unless you prefer cycling through top-5 and 1st round picks for the next decade.

[TheJackBurton]

After watching [most] of last night's game what do you expect a new coach to do? What do you expect Army to do, other than trade some vets for younger talent?

It's a different guy every night. Last night Dvorsky got schooled, looked like a Junior out there.

Until the scoring drought ends it will be difficult to win with any consistency. Face it, for now at least they need a playmaking center and got Dvorsky instead. Not singling him out, he's merely an example from last night. They actually got a goal from Buchnevich on a pass feed so good even he couldn't miss. They got nothing from the PP. Again.

Yes Dvorsky is going to have a game or two where he plays like a rookie, because he's a rookie. His drop pass was ill advised and led to the third goal (I believe or it was the second) but that's what rookies do is make mistakes.

He will learn from this as he has a very high hockey IQ. He's a shoot first center and that's exactly what we need. Thomas is the assist guy, unfortunately his linemates are doing a terrible job of burying his passes. I can't even begin to count the amount of times he has put pucks directly on their tape with wide open nets and their hands immediately turn to cement and flub it and put it wide or have it fall off their stick. He should easily have 15-20 more points.

We say "of course Texier is excelling any one would if they played on a line with Suzuki and Caulfield" well are Suzuki and Caulfield that much better than Thomas and Kyrou based on the time each has been in the league? No.

I don't understand the complete and utter lack of offense on this team, they have multiple guys who have averaged 20+ goals in their careers but all of sudden can't even put a shot on net. It's unbelievably weird and it's likely too late in the season to make changes so these guys simply have to start burying their chances and until they do that it'll be win one, lose two, win two, lose two, win one, 3 OT losses. They will be wildly inconsistent.

[moose-and-squirrel]

It worked in January of 2019, last time we were in last place in January.

If that doesn't work, clean house in the offseason from the top down. This team is rotting at the core.

ain't happenin

[zuck698]

Monty isn't going anywhere with 3.5 years left on his deal. I found one thing interesting on last night's broadcast. It was regarding that Monty is keeping his lines together for the next 3 or 4 games to build a consistency and to allow the players a familiarity of where each player is at on the line. My question is, did any of you guys hear this and wonder why that took half a season to adjust to that? I know all coaches changes lines from time to time, but I felt our line changing strategy, in the first half of this season, was line changing on steroids! I don't understand why we couldn't just let these players play with each other for more than one period at times. What am I missing here?

[hotrivets]

If they thought swapping assistant coaches would do anything, they'd have done so by now. People have been calling for Ott's head every downturn the past five years.

IMHO, he perseveres because Army knows Ott isnt the problem. And, all changing assistant coaches or Monty does is reinforce the view that coaches are expandable.

There are three guys who seem to dictate how the rest of this team plays.

When Thomas, Kyrou, and/or Binner are excelling, the rest of the team does well and we win.

When Kyrou, Binner, amd/or Thomas are struggling, the rest of the team plays like hot garbage.

Regardless of who the so-called leaders are, regardless of who speaks up in the room, those are the guys this team follows. They're the pivot points.

Trading one of them is necessary to shake things up. Maybe more than one.

As pointed out in another thread they played pretty well when Kyrou was out. I would trade Thomas also but we need more centers not less so we are stuck. Of course if one of your goalies is not playing well the team is going to suffer.

All we know is what we see on TV and in the media. My thought about Monty is he has no new ideas. With a better roster he would not need new ideas but that will take years to improve. Nobody associated with the team seems to be able to get them to show any pride- they just go through the locker room motions. I'm sorry Bobby is gone but glad he does not have to see this- it is sickening.

[somni]

Monty isn't going anywhere with 3.5 years left on his deal. I found one thing interesting on last night's broadcast. It was regarding that Monty is keeping his lines together for the next 3 or 4 games to build a consistency and to allow the players a familiarity of where each player is at on the line. My question is, did any of you guys hear this and wonder why that took half a season to adjust to that? I know all coaches changes lines from time to time, but I felt our line changing strategy, in the first half of this season, was line changing on steroids! I don't understand why we couldn't just let these players play with each other for more than one period at times. What am I missing here?

I thought Monty's contract ran until the end of 29/30 season. So that's 4.5 years left.

Not sure if I'm right, can't get much info except for google ai.

[zuck698]

Monty isn't going anywhere with 3.5 years left on his deal. I found one thing interesting on last night's broadcast. It was regarding that Monty is keeping his lines together for the next 3 or 4 games to build a consistency and to allow the players a familiarity of where each player is at on the line. My question is, did any of you guys hear this and wonder why that took half a season to adjust to that? I know all coaches changes lines from time to time, but I felt our line changing strategy, in the first half of this season, was line changing on steroids! I don't understand why we couldn't just let these players play with each other for more than one period at times. What am I missing here?

I thought Monty's contract ran until the end of 29/30 season. So that's 4.5 years left.

Not sure if I'm right, can't get much info except for google ai.

It ends at the end of 28/29 season. I think they counted last year as his first year if I remember correctly.

[bluetunehead]

I recommend not firing the 3rd coach in a 25 month span and coming to terms with the fact that this is a mediocre roster.

[BrummerStealsHome]

Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

[Russdv14]

Again, if I were Monty, I would take a leave of absence because the players have taken a leave of absence on him

I think all the assistant coaches should go -they can all sit in the press box at the very least