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Army is out of options

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He clearly needs to send a message. What are we even playing for? I don’t want to keep hearing we are 3pts out of a playoff spot….i guess it’s 5 now so that’s a bonus. This team is absolute hot garbage and there is a serious problem in that locker room and it needs to be addressed before it infects our young players
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Army has at least 1 option remaining for sure. I'll call it the "2024-finish" style.

After the Olympics, when the rest of the NHL goes into tank or prepare-for-playoffs mode, the Blues could win more than they lose, creating the appearance of progress and spoiling our draft position.

Based on the embarrassing return that Army could get for his "problem childs", I'm guessing that this is the route that we go.

Never forget. Army has to exit "well". That is more important to Army than the team future.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 08 Jan 2026 07:21 am He clearly needs to send a message. What are we even playing for? I don’t want to keep hearing we are 3pts out of a playoff spot….i guess it’s 5 now so that’s a bonus. This team is absolute hot garbage and there is a serious problem in that locker room and it needs to be addressed before it infects our young players
You’re spot on, and that’s exactly what’s been worrying me this whole time. I can’t imagine what’s going on in that locker room, especially with so many young players being exposed to it.

They’ll all encounter situations like this at some point in their careers, but right now feels like the wrong time. This team needs to decide what direction it truly wants to go, because the uncertainty is starting to show.
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First and foremost, Binnington sucks he may be literally be one of the worst goal tenders in the NHL. I went to bed at 4-2 and at that point two Hawks goals went in off of Binnington and a 3rd goal against was questionable at best didnt see the rest of the game. For me the Blues play poorly in front of Binnington. To start, Hofer must the #1 goalie, its not a 1a or 1b situation at all.
Next, Faulk and Schenn would be the easiest TDL moves coming, basically you can count on it. I am frankly not sure why any team would take Binnington everyone is seeing the same thing but i am 100% ready to promote Zherenko.
Fowler is in my next bucket of guys to move he has a 4 team NTL, Kryou and Buchnevich are going to be very hard to move right now, a long shot at best.

Then over the summer IF Schenn and or one of Kyrou/Buch is is moved perhaps another move is made do you look at bringing Jaden Scwhartz back if hes still out there?

Neighbours Thomas Snuggerud
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 08 Jan 2026 07:21 am He clearly needs to send a message. What are we even playing for? I don’t want to keep hearing we are 3pts out of a playoff spot….i guess it’s 5 now so that’s a bonus. This team is absolute hot garbage and there is a serious problem in that locker room and it needs to be addressed before it infects our young players
As a homer, hard for me to say this, but you are 100-percent right.

Thumped by Avs in Denver? Understandable. Thumped by Bedard-less ChickenHawks? Mystifying.
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It is obvious that you ride Hofer at this point and hope he sparks a streak and then you see where you are at the deadline. Binner has lost the net unfortunately and Team Canada or not Monty needs to realize it. Now if you go with Hofer and things go sideways start the blowup.
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Wanna send a message? Waive (yes, I said WAIVE) an NTC player. Show the team you're more willing to eat the loss than to endure the madness.
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schwartzwatch wrote: 08 Jan 2026 08:07 am Wanna send a message? Waive (yes, I said WAIVE) an NTC player. Show the team you're more willing to eat the loss than to endure the madness.
You make a good point — I’ve been wondering the same thing. And honestly, I’ve got a feeling nobody wants to trade with us right now. If you’re going to send a message, that’ll do it… but he’d better make sure he picks the right one to waive.
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Just going to say the "core" was moved over to Thomas/Kyrou and a lesser extent Buch when he signed his extension.

If there is a problem with the new core then they are the players you need to look at.

Since Thomas and Kyrou signed their extensions we have missed the playoffs 2 out of 3 years and that would have been 3 out of 3 if it hadnt have been for a mad run last year. There is a good chance we miss again this year.

We'e had 3 coaches during that time, and a pretty sizeable roster turnover.

You can move Schenn and Faulk and Binner, but Schenn is gone in 2 years, Faulk and Binner have 1 more season left. Moving them doesnt impact the core.

If there are concerns with the core, and there should be, i am looking at players who are here for 3+ years, not players who are free agents in a year or 2.
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schwartzwatch wrote: 08 Jan 2026 08:07 am Wanna send a message? Waive (yes, I said WAIVE) an NTC player. Show the team you're more willing to eat the loss than to endure the madness.
You mean like we did with Leddy?

Or Texier?

Or Saad?
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blues2112 wrote: 08 Jan 2026 07:57 am Thumped by Bedard-less ChickenHawks? Mystifying.
Chicago doesn't look so bad lately - they came into the game on a three game streak over playoff teams (Dallas, Vegas, Washington)

They're a well coached team buying into a system.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 08 Jan 2026 07:21 am He clearly needs to send a message. What are we even playing for? I don’t want to keep hearing we are 3pts out of a playoff spot….i guess it’s 5 now so that’s a bonus. This team is absolute hot garbage and there is a serious problem in that locker room and it needs to be addressed before it infects our young players
Question is what’s the message. What’s the identity? The scheme? Army has drafted lean fast players to play a quick transition game. The coaching staff seems to teach a heavy, north south, on the forecheck style we won the Cup with 7 years ago. Surely confusing to your players. The former is the league trend not the latter. Look around the league teams generally don’t play the heavy game anymore. Also your team scoring is dependent on your top 6 producing every night. Generally there’s no supplemental scoring from your D or the bottom 6.
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blues2112 wrote: 08 Jan 2026 07:57 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 08 Jan 2026 07:21 am He clearly needs to send a message. What are we even playing for? I don’t want to keep hearing we are 3pts out of a playoff spot….i guess it’s 5 now so that’s a bonus. This team is absolute hot garbage and there is a serious problem in that locker room and it needs to be addressed before it infects our young players
As a homer, hard for me to say this, but you are 100-percent right.

Thumped by Avs in Denver? Understandable. Thumped by Bedard-less ChickenHawks? Mystifying.
once that second goal went in and the way it went in, you just knew the rest of the game was going to go poorly.

How can he play so spectacularly on Saturday, and then completely ish the bed in such an important game?

I don't know where his head is, but it isn't hasn't been on the ice much this season because his focus has been terrible.
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Bacchk29 wrote: 08 Jan 2026 08:37 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 08 Jan 2026 07:21 am He clearly needs to send a message. What are we even playing for? I don’t want to keep hearing we are 3pts out of a playoff spot….i guess it’s 5 now so that’s a bonus. This team is absolute hot garbage and there is a serious problem in that locker room and it needs to be addressed before it infects our young players
Question is what’s the message. What’s the identity? The scheme? Army has drafted lean fast players to play a quick transition game. The coaching staff seems to teach a heavy, north south, on the forecheck style we won the Cup with 7 years ago. Surely confusing to your players. The former is the league trend not the latter. Look around the league teams generally don’t play the heavy game anymore. Also your team scoring is dependent on your top 6 producing every night. Generally there’s no supplemental scoring from your D or the bottom 6.
I agree except Florida just went to 3 consecutive Stanley Cup Finals and won 2 with that exact style. If some of the players won't adjust to the system, then get players who will.
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britishblue wrote: 08 Jan 2026 08:23 am
schwartzwatch wrote: 08 Jan 2026 08:07 am Wanna send a message? Waive (yes, I said WAIVE) an NTC player. Show the team you're more willing to eat the loss than to endure the madness.
You mean like we did with Leddy?

Or Texier?

Or Saad?
Not sure about Texier, but okay ...nevermind ...it's just to early in the day...
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TheJackBurton wrote: 08 Jan 2026 08:39 am
Bacchk29 wrote: 08 Jan 2026 08:37 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 08 Jan 2026 07:21 am He clearly needs to send a message. What are we even playing for? I don’t want to keep hearing we are 3pts out of a playoff spot….i guess it’s 5 now so that’s a bonus. This team is absolute hot garbage and there is a serious problem in that locker room and it needs to be addressed before it infects our young players
Question is what’s the message. What’s the identity? The scheme? Army has drafted lean fast players to play a quick transition game. The coaching staff seems to teach a heavy, north south, on the forecheck style we won the Cup with 7 years ago. Surely confusing to your players. The former is the league trend not the latter. Look around the league teams generally don’t play the heavy game anymore. Also your team scoring is dependent on your top 6 producing every night. Generally there’s no supplemental scoring from your D or the bottom 6.
I agree except Florida just went to 3 consecutive Stanley Cup Finals and won 2 with that exact style. If some of the players won't adjust to the system, then get players who will.
I thought about that as I was posting - they are the exception. Hard to shift gears after it’s taken years to draft the guys you have. Zito has done a tremendous job of building that team no doubt. Same with Nill in Dallas. Plenty of examples around the having success playing an up tempo skill style though.
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