Faulk name heating up?

[Younghopp1991]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

[theograce]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

Look what GM’s say and do for him. They talk about him and treat him like the hockey God he is.

[Younghopp1991]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

Look what GM’s say and do for him. They talk about him and treat him like the hockey God he is.

Why are you tagging me?

[Whatashame]

I’m late to this party but looking through this thread, I just don’t see how you wouldn’t look at what the market is for Faulk. No one is saying to just give him away but he will be 34 in March. He will not be a contributing player when this team is challenging again. If the market says we can get a first and a good prospect for him or possibly a couple of good prospects for him, why wouldn’t you consider doing that. The same with Schenn. If a good market is there for them, Armstrong has to consider doing that.

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned that we don’t have a replacement for Faulk AND any replacement was 3-5 years away. That’s just not true. Jiricek was arguably the best Dman at the world juniors. He will be in Springfield next year and the Blues will get their first look sometime later in the 26-27 season.

The Blues will get their first look at Lindstein sometime next year. Fischer will be getting his first look probably in the 27-28 season. Ralph and Burns right behind that. There are several Dmen just 2-3 years away, some we will be seeing I believe as early as sometime next year.

If you can move a couple of aging veterans for some assets we can use when we are a viable team again, why wouldn’t Armstrong/Steen take a look at that.

There is no guarantee of that. Jiricek could light the world on fire or he could be next years Logan Mailloux. He has no NHL games under his belt and although improving will still spend at least most of next year in the AHL, if not the entire season.

Even with that, he won't be ready for top 4 duty for at least 2-3 seasons most likely. My point was just getting a 1st round pick and a mid level prospect for him is a waste of time and doesn't do the team any good. If he is being traded it has to be for an upgrade in a position, not for something that might produce something of worth in 3-5 years.

Doesn’t do what team any good? The 25-26 Blues who are not playoff eligible now? Look, you have your way of looking at this and that’s fine but I believe just letting a 34 year old Dman just ride out his contract and not look at his market if there is one is just plain wrong, that’s my view. The Blues obtaining future assets does help. Maybe not the 25-26 version but certainly future versions.

As far as who is on the horizon, you nor I can tell the future but the comment was no one was on the horizon for 3-5 years. I’m saying that’s just not true. We will see Jiricek and probably Lindstein sometime next year. If Jiricek continues to develop at the rate he has this year, next year sometime is very likely. Lindstein is probably sometime next year also. Guarantees, of course not, but highly likely.

[theograce]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

Look what GM’s say and do for him. They talk about him and treat him like the hockey God he is.

Why are you tagging me?

You inspired me

[Jeff Goldblum]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

Just like the gold glove in mlb. It's easier for voters to look at stats on a page than to watch all of the games.

[Younghopp1991]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

Just like the gold glove in mlb. It's easier for voters to look at stats on a page than to watch all of the games.

Very true and a huge let down. This is probably one of the bigger reasons to trade faulk. I dont remember if you put your 2cents on the topic or not so my apologies. But someone will overpay for a dman putting the puck in the net regardless of how well they play D. And faulk can play D. Teams love to score from the blue line.

[Jeff Goldblum]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

Just like the gold glove in mlb. It's easier for voters to look at stats on a page than to watch all of the games.

Very true and a huge let down. This is probably one of the bigger reasons to trade faulk. I dont remember if you put your 2cents on the topic or not so my apologies. But someone will overpay for a dman putting the puck in the net regardless of how well they play D. And faulk can play D. Teams love to score from the blue line.

Im kind of torn. My instinct is to sell high because he has been such a liability the past 2 seasons and I can see him reverting back to that. He has made some really bad plays in the defensive zone recently. But the people who say we have nobody to take his place have a good point. If teams get desperate and you can get a good haul for him then you have to do it, imo.

[DutchBlue]

Haha the sad comparison with Pietrangelo... He only has three defenders ahead of him right in games played at WJC btw... Ellis, Bouwmeester and Jason Botteril... Probably as all the truly elite were in the NHL by the time they were at least 19. Oh right around the time Pietrangelo had his amazing 4-assist game against Latvia... What if he wouldnt have played - jeez Canada would have been really up against it? Would have massively impacted the 16-0 scoreline. Jake Allen had the shutout! Or maybe the goal and 2 assists against powerhouse Slovakia which they barely squeaked by with a mere 8-2...

Still didnt get the letter though in Vegas at the start...

It’s points by a defender in a single tournament dummy.

Simple jack, read what i typed, I know probably difficult for you.

In his second tourney -the tournament you are referring to- 7 points against powerhouses Latvia and Slovakia. Hahahaha on top of his game… like you were when flunking 5th grade for third time and you got the best score in class! Whooptidoo!

[Younghopp1991]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

Look what GM’s say and do for him. They talk about him and treat him like the hockey God he is.

Why are you tagging me?

You inspired me

Weird

[theograce]

Haha the sad comparison with Pietrangelo... He only has three defenders ahead of him right in games played at WJC btw... Ellis, Bouwmeester and Jason Botteril... Probably as all the truly elite were in the NHL by the time they were at least 19. Oh right around the time Pietrangelo had his amazing 4-assist game against Latvia... What if he wouldnt have played - jeez Canada would have been really up against it? Would have massively impacted the 16-0 scoreline. Jake Allen had the shutout! Or maybe the goal and 2 assists against powerhouse Slovakia which they barely squeaked by with a mere 8-2...

Still didnt get the letter though in Vegas at the start...

It’s points by a defender in a single tournament dummy.

Simple jack, read what i typed, I know probably difficult for you.

In his second tourney -the tournament you are referring to- 7 points against powerhouses Latvia and Slovakia. Hahahaha on top of his game… like you were when flunking 5th grade for third time and you got the best score in class! Whooptidoo!

Ohhh other Canadians never played those teams in the past.

How stupid do you have to be? You’re a blues fan downplaying a Blue who has done things you will never see again in your life.

Armstrong called him a legend … and he is

Wooooooo

[TheJackBurton]

I’m late to this party but looking through this thread, I just don’t see how you wouldn’t look at what the market is for Faulk. No one is saying to just give him away but he will be 34 in March. He will not be a contributing player when this team is challenging again. If the market says we can get a first and a good prospect for him or possibly a couple of good prospects for him, why wouldn’t you consider doing that. The same with Schenn. If a good market is there for them, Armstrong has to consider doing that.

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned that we don’t have a replacement for Faulk AND any replacement was 3-5 years away. That’s just not true. Jiricek was arguably the best Dman at the world juniors. He will be in Springfield next year and the Blues will get their first look sometime later in the 26-27 season.

The Blues will get their first look at Lindstein sometime next year. Fischer will be getting his first look probably in the 27-28 season. Ralph and Burns right behind that. There are several Dmen just 2-3 years away, some we will be seeing I believe as early as sometime next year.

If you can move a couple of aging veterans for some assets we can use when we are a viable team again, why wouldn’t Armstrong/Steen take a look at that.

There is no guarantee of that. Jiricek could light the world on fire or he could be next years Logan Mailloux. He has no NHL games under his belt and although improving will still spend at least most of next year in the AHL, if not the entire season.

Even with that, he won't be ready for top 4 duty for at least 2-3 seasons most likely. My point was just getting a 1st round pick and a mid level prospect for him is a waste of time and doesn't do the team any good. If he is being traded it has to be for an upgrade in a position, not for something that might produce something of worth in 3-5 years.

Doesn’t do what team any good? The 25-26 Blues who are not playoff eligible now? Look, you have your way of looking at this and that’s fine but I believe just letting a 34 year old Dman just ride out his contract and not look at his market if there is one is just plain wrong, that’s my view. The Blues obtaining future assets does help. Maybe not the 25-26 version but certainly future versions.

As far as who is on the horizon, you nor I can tell the future but the comment was no one was on the horizon for 3-5 years. I’m saying that’s just not true. We will see Jiricek and probably Lindstein sometime next year. If Jiricek continues to develop at the rate he has this year, next year sometime is very likely. Lindstein is probably sometime next year also. Guarantees, of course not, but highly likely.

no read it again because I was the one who made the comment. I said the draft pick we would get wouldn't help us for about 3-5 years since it would be a low first rounder. He isn't going to ride out his contract. He'll either be extended or likely traded in the off season if they feel they can get a top 4 right dman, or have one. I never said not to listen, but it doesn't do the team any good to trade him this trade deadline for essentially what the package would be next trade deadline. You can get a first rounder and a mid prospect if he's having this type of season next year without much of a problem.

[Younghopp1991]

"With Alex, we get a guy that's in the discussion for the Norris Trophy each year," Vegas general manager Kelly McCrimmon said. "He's one of the top four or five defensemen in the game. He's the first over the boards in every situation for his team. ... He's a four-year captain (with St. Louis). He's extremely high-character, very committed to winning, Stanley Cup champion. Right shot. He's 6-foot-3, brings great size (210 pounds) to our blue line. And again, we wouldn't have gone to these lengths for anyone but a player that we think can do as much for our team as Alex can."

Vegas thought he was as sexy as I do

It’s yummy

He was never even a finalist for the Norris.

Laughing

I will say that he should have been. The year karlson won really irked me. I get that doesnt make petro a finalist but that is a award that the analysts dont know how to vote since offensive numbers sway votes. Thats my 2cents

Just like the gold glove in mlb. It's easier for voters to look at stats on a page than to watch all of the games.

Very true and a huge let down. This is probably one of the bigger reasons to trade faulk. I dont remember if you put your 2cents on the topic or not so my apologies. But someone will overpay for a dman putting the puck in the net regardless of how well they play D. And faulk can play D. Teams love to score from the blue line.

Im kind of torn. My instinct is to sell high because he has been such a liability the past 2 seasons and I can see him reverting back to that. He has made some really bad plays in the defensive zone recently. But the people who say we have nobody to take his place have a good point. If teams get desperate and you can get a good haul for him then you have to do it, imo.

Yeah if you trade faulk you are pretty much picking 3-5 range this year. Next year, barring a FA or trade is pretty much a wide open tryout. Which probably brings another high pick. Opportunity always brings out the best in people eventually. I just believe we have tried to ease guys into the “right situation” for a while and the hunger just gies for granted. I think some sink or swim mentality might do some of these guys some good. Or at least seperate who the men and boys are. Ill admit i can be wrong. I just hate to see a opportunity go unseized in a world of saad, leddy, texier… i could very well be wrong.

[Younghopp1991]

I’m late to this party but looking through this thread, I just don’t see how you wouldn’t look at what the market is for Faulk. No one is saying to just give him away but he will be 34 in March. He will not be a contributing player when this team is challenging again. If the market says we can get a first and a good prospect for him or possibly a couple of good prospects for him, why wouldn’t you consider doing that. The same with Schenn. If a good market is there for them, Armstrong has to consider doing that.

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned that we don’t have a replacement for Faulk AND any replacement was 3-5 years away. That’s just not true. Jiricek was arguably the best Dman at the world juniors. He will be in Springfield next year and the Blues will get their first look sometime later in the 26-27 season.

The Blues will get their first look at Lindstein sometime next year. Fischer will be getting his first look probably in the 27-28 season. Ralph and Burns right behind that. There are several Dmen just 2-3 years away, some we will be seeing I believe as early as sometime next year.

If you can move a couple of aging veterans for some assets we can use when we are a viable team again, why wouldn’t Armstrong/Steen take a look at that.

There is no guarantee of that. Jiricek could light the world on fire or he could be next years Logan Mailloux. He has no NHL games under his belt and although improving will still spend at least most of next year in the AHL, if not the entire season.

Even with that, he won't be ready for top 4 duty for at least 2-3 seasons most likely. My point was just getting a 1st round pick and a mid level prospect for him is a waste of time and doesn't do the team any good. If he is being traded it has to be for an upgrade in a position, not for something that might produce something of worth in 3-5 years.

Doesn’t do what team any good? The 25-26 Blues who are not playoff eligible now? Look, you have your way of looking at this and that’s fine but I believe just letting a 34 year old Dman just ride out his contract and not look at his market if there is one is just plain wrong, that’s my view. The Blues obtaining future assets does help. Maybe not the 25-26 version but certainly future versions.

As far as who is on the horizon, you nor I can tell the future but the comment was no one was on the horizon for 3-5 years. I’m saying that’s just not true. We will see Jiricek and probably Lindstein sometime next year. If Jiricek continues to develop at the rate he has this year, next year sometime is very likely. Lindstein is probably sometime next year also. Guarantees, of course not, but highly likely.

no read it again because I was the one who made the comment. I said the draft pick we would get wouldn't help us for about 3-5 years since it would be a low first rounder. He isn't going to ride out his contract. He'll either be extended or likely traded in the off season if they feel they can get a top 4 right dman, or have one. I never said not to listen, but it doesn't do the team any good to trade him this trade deadline for essentially what the package would be next trade deadline. You can get a first rounder and a mid prospect if he's having this type of season next year without much of a problem.

Thats a huge if though. Not even close to a guarantee and closer to not a chance. This is faulks most productive season since the 22-23 season. This could very likely be his peak

[Whatashame]

I’m late to this party but looking through this thread, I just don’t see how you wouldn’t look at what the market is for Faulk. No one is saying to just give him away but he will be 34 in March. He will not be a contributing player when this team is challenging again. If the market says we can get a first and a good prospect for him or possibly a couple of good prospects for him, why wouldn’t you consider doing that. The same with Schenn. If a good market is there for them, Armstrong has to consider doing that.

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned that we don’t have a replacement for Faulk AND any replacement was 3-5 years away. That’s just not true. Jiricek was arguably the best Dman at the world juniors. He will be in Springfield next year and the Blues will get their first look sometime later in the 26-27 season.

The Blues will get their first look at Lindstein sometime next year. Fischer will be getting his first look probably in the 27-28 season. Ralph and Burns right behind that. There are several Dmen just 2-3 years away, some we will be seeing I believe as early as sometime next year.

If you can move a couple of aging veterans for some assets we can use when we are a viable team again, why wouldn’t Armstrong/Steen take a look at that.

There is no guarantee of that. Jiricek could light the world on fire or he could be next years Logan Mailloux. He has no NHL games under his belt and although improving will still spend at least most of next year in the AHL, if not the entire season.

Even with that, he won't be ready for top 4 duty for at least 2-3 seasons most likely. My point was just getting a 1st round pick and a mid level prospect for him is a waste of time and doesn't do the team any good. If he is being traded it has to be for an upgrade in a position, not for something that might produce something of worth in 3-5 years.

Doesn’t do what team any good? The 25-26 Blues who are not playoff eligible now? Look, you have your way of looking at this and that’s fine but I believe just letting a 34 year old Dman just ride out his contract and not look at his market if there is one is just plain wrong, that’s my view. The Blues obtaining future assets does help. Maybe not the 25-26 version but certainly future versions.

As far as who is on the horizon, you nor I can tell the future but the comment was no one was on the horizon for 3-5 years. I’m saying that’s just not true. We will see Jiricek and probably Lindstein sometime next year. If Jiricek continues to develop at the rate he has this year, next year sometime is very likely. Lindstein is probably sometime next year also. Guarantees, of course not, but highly likely.

no read it again because I was the one who made the comment. I said the draft pick we would get wouldn't help us for about 3-5 years since it would be a low first rounder. He isn't going to ride out his contract. He'll either be extended or likely traded in the off season if they feel they can get a top 4 right dman, or have one. I never said not to listen, but it doesn't do the team any good to trade him this trade deadline for essentially what the package would be next trade deadline. You can get a first rounder and a mid prospect if he's having this type of season next year without much of a problem.

You don’t know what we could get next year. If you can get a maximum value now you should get it while you can because you don’t know what next year brings. If you can guarantee the same return, which you can’t, then wait but take the maximum value when it’s available. We have seen this story before. Hang on to an asset thinking I can do better…..then you can’t. Again, I think the same with Schenn. Explore the market and if the value is there, move him too. Just my opinion.

[seattleblue]

Vegas is missing Pietrangelo so very badly.

Could you imagine Faulk being traded for a second time, only to be asked to replace Pietrangelo again... At least this time there's no awkward overlap between the two.

Yeah kinda funny actually. They didn’t need a Marner. They need to replace Pietrangelo…which is not possible.

Pietrangelo is such a glue guy. Marner is not

Really? The glue guy?

Yes a glue guy. That’s why Armstrong named him Captain … and Team Canada named him with McDavid and Crosby (first ever for any Blue) … and why Vegas put a letter on his chest on day 1 (which almost never happens)….and why Armstrong puts him up with hockey legends.

Blues fans not knowing this hilarious

I completely get why it's hilarious. It is. You wait and wait and wait and wait and wait until your eyeballs pop out, then a player arrives who literally proves it on the ice and anchors a franchise for a decade to the most conference wins and a Cup, and afterwards the people who waited don't even understand what happened. You and I each see how shameful this is.

You both see it because you are the same eyes...

I already understand you're a terrible poster, but really now I'm Theo, again, because you don't like my opinion? That is exceptionally pitiful Jeff. It proves why I should be on his side, against you. 100% he owns the moral high ground on you, and you're dreck