Is there a team better than us with more than 4 rookies on it?

[TAFKAP]

Guys coming into the season with less than 25 games played.

Snuggerud
Dvorsky
Stenberg
Mailloux

That's a lot of raw talent to gel into an NHL lineup that hopes to make the playoffs.

I hope the Olympic break is good to us, because the compacted schedule is a complete [fustercluck].

[Old_Goat]

Guys coming into the season with less than 25 games played.

Snuggerud
Dvorsky
Stenberg
Mailloux

That's a lot of raw talent to gel into an NHL lineup that hopes to make the playoffs.

I hope the Olympic break is good to us, because the compacted schedule is a complete [fustercluck].

Real good question. I don't know the answer, but I'll speculate that there likely is not

[zamadoo]

I thought about the amount of rookies on the roster yesterday during the game.

Stenberg and Dvorsky were sitting on the bench and I said something about the two rooks to my wife. I was pleased to see them starting on a line together with Berggren. Snuggerud has some jump to his game since coming back from injury.

Very young team, just subtracted 42 year old Suter and 30 something Faksa who played key roles.

I would assume the next injection will be some more older guys like Kaskimaki and Peterson, and then Lindstein, Stancl, and Pekarcik.

I guess we could add Kaskimaki to the list of rookies who've been in the lineup. Wouldn't mind having him back. But the reality is that we need our core vets to lead them. Schenn and Buch have been much better. Thomas lacks consistency but is generally pulling his weight. Kyrou really lacks consistency and is being replaced in the lineup. Parayko turned it up, so if he and Fowler get going (and I think they should be paired together), then this could be a real team.

Someone else mentioned trading Faulk - I tend to agree that right now if someone comes at us with a quality offer that he agrees to, you take the deal. It's been 3 years since he scored this many goals. Never a better time to trade him than a season like this. You can move Faulk, call up Lindstein and/or Skinner, and then rotate between the guys we have left for the remainder of the season to see what you've got.

[Younghopp1991]

I thought about the amount of rookies on the roster yesterday during the game.

Stenberg and Dvorsky were sitting on the bench and I said something about the two rooks to my wife. I was pleased to see them starting on a line together with Berggren. Snuggerud has some jump to his game since coming back from injury.

Very young team, just subtracted 42 year old Suter and 30 something Faksa who played key roles.

I would assume the next injection will be some more older guys like Kaskimaki and Peterson, and then Lindstein, Stancl, and Pekarcik.

I guess we could add Kaskimaki to the list of rookies who've been in the lineup. Wouldn't mind having him back. But the reality is that we need our core vets to lead them. Schenn and Buch have been much better. Thomas lacks consistency but is generally pulling his weight. Kyrou really lacks consistency and is being replaced in the lineup. Parayko turned it up, so if he and Fowler get going (and I think they should be paired together), then this could be a real team.

Someone else mentioned trading Faulk - I tend to agree that right now if someone comes at us with a quality offer that he agrees to, you take the deal. It's been 3 years since he scored this many goals. Never a better time to trade him than a season like this. You can move Faulk, call up Lindstein and/or Skinner, and then rotate between the guys we have left for the remainder of the season to see what you've got.

I enjoyed your write up. The only problem with trading faulk is if you fo you are not trying to make the playoffs and the young guys are getting their audition for next season.

[skilles]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

[Pierre McGuire]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

[zamadoo]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

I agree, but I think the risk is outweighed by the return on the deal.

Right now you've got a bunch of 22-25 year olds fighting for 2 spots. One of them should be Faulk's replacement or at minimum a solid 3rd pairing guy. Kessel and Tucker are 7th D types who have shown some promise but are reaching peak age in development. These three alone could benefit from more consistent playing time with bigger roles. I also think you can add Lindstein to that mix to shore it up defensively. We also have Rosen available on the short term...

But if you don't get a quality offer, you hope to make the playoffs with Faulk where he might maintain/improve value into the last year of his deal.

I'm not feeling as rushed to move Parayko, but could agree with PM that moving Parayko could be opportunistic and I would say brings the bigger haul than Faulk. I just envision Parayko as our Jaybo and Schenn as our Steen. Probably not going anywhere.

[Frank Underwood]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

Agreed. Parayko has been very disappointing this year, maybe more so than any other player. It would have to be the right trade, one with a massive return, but if we wait too long to trade him, we waste a huge asset. Hope he plays well in the Olympics and we screw the lights out some team at the deadline.

On Faulk, he has been great this year, but as yesterday showed, he could revert to the old Faulk at any point. You don’t give him away or move him for a mid-round pick, but if you can get a very good return for him, move him.

[skilles]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

I completely disagree, its time to move on from forwards but moving those d pieces just puts us in a giant hole that could take a decade to dig out of IMO.

[Hazelwood72]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

Parayko really frustrates me. Got the talent, got the howitzer shot, but rarely uses it. Reminds me a bit of TJ Oshie, who acknowledged that the trade to Washington woke him up, made him a better player, and made him realize that he wasn’t giving his all with the Blues.

Don’t know if it’s a similar “mental/compete” problem with Parayko, or if it’s physical and his back is giving him trouble again.

All that said, I really root for CP, because I think he is a great guy. (Maybe too nice?)

Regarding Faulk, he’s exactly who he is. Offensively minded defenseman who isn’t particularly good on defense. Heck, I often think he should be a right winger.

[TAFKAP]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

Edit, NM I misread your statement. Carry on

[Pierre McGuire]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

I completely disagree, its time to move on from forwards but moving those d pieces just puts us in a giant hole that could take a decade to dig out of IMO.

Eventually Parayko will hold no value and the Blues will still be in the same boat. Why on earth would you want that? The biggest mistake a GM can make is holding on to depreciating asset too long which is what Parayko is at this point. You can set your future up so much better by moving him.
We are 7 years past our Cup run. We don’t need him anymore, he’s much more valuable to a team that’s close to a cup and willing to overpay for him.

[theograce]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

I completely disagree, its time to move on from forwards but moving those d pieces just puts us in a giant hole that could take a decade to dig out of IMO.

Eventually Parayko will hold no value and the Blues will still be in the same boat. Why on earth would you want that? The biggest mistake a GM can make is holding on to depreciating asset too long which is what Parayko is at this point. You can set your future up so much better by moving him.
We are 7 years past our Cup run. We don’t need him anymore, he’s much more valuable to a team that’s close to a cup and willing to overpay for him.

Yup. Blues are going nowhere any time soon

[blackinkbiz]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

Parayko really frustrates me. Got the talent, got the howitzer shot, but rarely uses it. Reminds me a bit of TJ Oshie, who acknowledged that the trade to Washington woke him up, made him a better player, and made him realize that he wasn’t giving his all with the Blues.

Don’t know if it’s a similar “mental/compete” problem with Parayko, or if it’s physical and his back is giving him trouble again.

All that said, I really root for CP, because I think he is a great guy. (Maybe too nice?)

Regarding Faulk, he’s exactly who he is. Offensively minded defenseman who isn’t particularly good on defense. Heck, I often think he should be a right winger.

My guess is it has to be something physical with Colton. He really turned the corner these past 2 seasons and was finally looking like the guy we'd all hoped he'd become. He was a shell of himself when he played through the back injury. I'm sure he's doing the same thing now.

It's maddening that guys play through injury to the point they're so bad they're actually hurting their team and yet, they think being a gamer and playing through it is what haelps the team. Just makes you want to scream.

[kimzey59]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

I completely disagree, its time to move on from forwards but moving those d pieces just puts us in a giant hole that could take a decade to dig out of IMO.

IMO you give the kids a shot at the 2nd pairing after the trade deadline.
And if they don't work out, you take some of our 30 mil in cap space this summer to bring in an Andrew Peeke or Trevor van Reimsdyk type to hold down the 2nd pairing in the short term.

But if you're going to move Faulk at all; you do it now while his value is at it's highest. He could easily revert to garbage if you wait.

[DawgDad]

I just don't know that I'm ready to sell on Faulk, I'm ready to turn it over to youth but man we gotta have something on d that gives these kids a chance to develop and succeed and we just don't have anything close on d.

Not only is it time to turn the page on Faulk, but its time to turn the page on Parayko as well. I’d rather hold onto Faulk for another year and get something of value for Parayko while we still can. Several guys need to go though.

I completely disagree, its time to move on from forwards but moving those d pieces just puts us in a giant hole that could take a decade to dig out of IMO.

Eventually Parayko will hold no value and the Blues will still be in the same boat. Why on earth would you want that? The biggest mistake a GM can make is holding on to depreciating asset too long which is what Parayko is at this point. You can set your future up so much better by moving him.
We are 7 years past our Cup run. We don’t need him anymore, he’s much more valuable to a team that’s close to a cup and willing to overpay for him.

Yup. Blues are going nowhere any time soon

You see no sense in waiting until someone is ready to replace him? I normally view your posts as level-headed and hockey-knowledgeable but this fails to sell me on the rationale. Right now a team should have to overwhelm the Blues with young top talent to poach Parayko and his very favorable contract.