I don’t think the thread is about Donny being a valuable player, sure he’s very valuable to Cards on the field, the thread is about whether he’s still a fire hot trade commodity.
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I think the lag had less to do with Bregman and more to do with Arizona fielding calls on Marte. Sounds like the Dbacks are about to pull him off the market after not finding a deal to their liking so that should help. The main teams that were in on Donovan were also calling on Marte.
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I guess because Tucker bichette and bregman haven’t signed yet they aren’t fire hot commodities either because if they were teams would have just paid them whatever they asked for so no one else could them according to your logicGoldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:11 pmI don’t think the thread is about Donny being a valuable player, sure he’s very valuable to Cards on the field, the thread is about whether he’s still a fire hot trade commodity.
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He is definitely a hot commodity still.Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:11 pmI don’t think the thread is about Donny being a valuable player, sure he’s very valuable to Cards on the field, the thread is about whether he’s still a fire hot trade commodity.
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LOL....+1....SMH
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Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.
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+1 lol when Sonny and Contreras were signed he whined and complained about it said it was a waste of money then would post constantly about how much they suck and were a waste of money then bloom trades them and he immediately started whining and complaining saying they didn’t get anything for the players he said sucked. He for years said how much O’Neil sucks and how stupid mo was for keeping him mo traded him he hit 30 home runs elsewhere and the whole season he was saying how stupid mo was for trading him. He’s saying no one wants Donovan and he’s not much of a player but once he’s traded he will immediately be whining and complaining about how bloom traded him and how he didn’t get anything back for him.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:50 pm Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.
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+2Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 18:29 pm+1 lol when Sonny and Contreras were signed he whined and complained about it said it was a waste of money then would post constantly about how much they suck and were a waste of money then bloom trades them and he immediately started whining and complaining saying they didn’t get anything for the players he said sucked. He for years said how much O’Neil sucks and how stupid mo was for keeping him mo traded him he hit 30 home runs elsewhere and the whole season he was saying how stupid mo was for trading him. He’s saying no one wants Donovan and he’s not much of a player but once he’s traded he will immediately be whining and complaining about how bloom traded him and how he didn’t get anything back for him.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:50 pm Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.
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I thought about that as well, but like someone else said, it sounds like he has been pulled. Maybe Arizona was just seeing if someone would go hog wild in a trade for him and nobody did so they will keep him. He might still be on the market who knows for sure.WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:23 pm I think the lag had less to do with Bregman and more to do with Arizona fielding calls on Marte. Sounds like the Dbacks are about to pull him off the market after not finding a deal to their liking so that should help. The main teams that were in on Donovan were also calling on Marte.
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Definitely playing a part...I think multiple teams are checking in on the asking price for both....the thing I haven't heard is...that the cards asking price for Donovan is sky high like it's been reported with marte....I think Donovan gets dealt very soon...WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:23 pm I think the lag had less to do with Bregman and more to do with Arizona fielding calls on Marte. Sounds like the Dbacks are about to pull him off the market after not finding a deal to their liking so that should help. The main teams that were in on Donovan were also calling on Marte.
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Oz, you’re better than that. With WC and Gray I said they were old, not as productive and impactful as portrayed, and wasn’t sad to see them go. I pointed out that the prospect return wasn’t much and their salary slots were(dumped) gone. TO was/is a walking injury who isn’t a very good hitter and an over rated fielder and I NEVER complained about losing him. Tighten up your storylines. Donny is a good player but not a game changer and probably won’t return the foundational prospects I’ve been hearing about since the WS ended. But I guess we’ll see…. The point of this thread is determining whether he’s still HOT now that ‘26 is hereOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 18:29 pm+1 lol when Sonny and Contreras were signed he whined and complained about it said it was a waste of money then would post constantly about how much they suck and were a waste of money then bloom trades them and he immediately started whining and complaining saying they didn’t get anything for the players he said sucked. He for years said how much O’Neil sucks and how stupid mo was for keeping him mo traded him he hit 30 home runs elsewhere and the whole season he was saying how stupid mo was for trading him. He’s saying no one wants Donovan and he’s not much of a player but once he’s traded he will immediately be whining and complaining about how bloom traded him and how he didn’t get anything back for him.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:50 pm Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.
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BD’s versatility and consistency makes desirable to a number of teams.Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:15 pmOz, you’re better than that. With WC and Gray I said they were old, not as productive and impactful as portrayed, and wasn’t sad to see them go. I pointed out that the prospect return wasn’t much and their salary slots were(dumped) gone. TO was/is a walking injury who isn’t a very good hitter and an over rated fielder and I NEVER complained about losing him. Tighten up your storylines. Donny is a good player but not a game changer and probably won’t return the foundational prospects I’ve been hearing about since the WS ended. But I guess we’ll see…. The point of this thread is determining whether he’s still HOT now that ‘26 is hereOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 18:29 pm+1 lol when Sonny and Contreras were signed he whined and complained about it said it was a waste of money then would post constantly about how much they suck and were a waste of money then bloom trades them and he immediately started whining and complaining saying they didn’t get anything for the players he said sucked. He for years said how much O’Neil sucks and how stupid mo was for keeping him mo traded him he hit 30 home runs elsewhere and the whole season he was saying how stupid mo was for trading him. He’s saying no one wants Donovan and he’s not much of a player but once he’s traded he will immediately be whining and complaining about how bloom traded him and how he didn’t get anything back for him.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:50 pm Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.
What will the return be? Not sure, but but it will be good.
Now what is ‘good’? I don’t remember Cubs fans getting exciting when Dempster was unloaded for a no name Hendricks. Or Feldman unloaded for a no name Arieta. So keep in mind you may not know the player(s) they get in return, but it will probably be good.
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Absolutely 100% true what I said. You started entire threads slamming Contreras over and over talked about how much underperforming he was as a first baseman said how stupid it was to sign him slammed gray over and over then when they are traded were you happy about it? Nope started whining and complaining about it and have been since. Same with O’Neil you absolutely when he was hitting his 30 home runs were complaining mo traded him. And you absurdly think that if a player hasn’t been traded or signed that means no one wants them or they aren’t a hot commodity and even start an entire absurd thread about itGoldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:15 pmOz, you’re better than that. With WC and Gray I said they were old, not as productive and impactful as portrayed, and wasn’t sad to see them go. I pointed out that the prospect return wasn’t much and their salary slots were(dumped) gone. TO was/is a walking injury who isn’t a very good hitter and an over rated fielder and I NEVER complained about losing him. Tighten up your storylines. Donny is a good player but not a game changer and probably won’t return the foundational prospects I’ve been hearing about since the WS ended. But I guess we’ll see…. The point of this thread is determining whether he’s still HOT now that ‘26 is hereOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 18:29 pm+1 lol when Sonny and Contreras were signed he whined and complained about it said it was a waste of money then would post constantly about how much they suck and were a waste of money then bloom trades them and he immediately started whining and complaining saying they didn’t get anything for the players he said sucked. He for years said how much O’Neil sucks and how stupid mo was for keeping him mo traded him he hit 30 home runs elsewhere and the whole season he was saying how stupid mo was for trading him. He’s saying no one wants Donovan and he’s not much of a player but once he’s traded he will immediately be whining and complaining about how bloom traded him and how he didn’t get anything back for him.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:50 pm Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.
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I’m not sure about your comprehension…..yes I said often that WC and Gray were not good or appropriate signings…..and it proved out. I’m glad they’re gone…are you with me so far??? MY ISSUE IS That their salary slots have been evaporated. You celebrate that because you think Cards are restocking farm system…..I disagree that they are adding quality, and if they’re not who cares if they’re adding bodies. And I have never said I missed TO. Ole TO has managed to play over 100games twice in his illustrious career……he’ll be 31 this seasonOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:45 pmAbsolutely 100% true what I said. You started entire threads slamming Contreras over and over talked about how much underperforming he was as a first baseman said how stupid it was to sign him slammed gray over and over then when they are traded were you happy about it? Nope started whining and complaining about it and have been since. Same with O’Neil you absolutely when he was hitting his 30 home runs were complaining mo traded him. And you absurdly think that if a player hasn’t been traded or signed that means no one wants them or they aren’t a hot commodity and even start an entire absurd thread about itGoldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:15 pmOz, you’re better than that. With WC and Gray I said they were old, not as productive and impactful as portrayed, and wasn’t sad to see them go. I pointed out that the prospect return wasn’t much and their salary slots were(dumped) gone. TO was/is a walking injury who isn’t a very good hitter and an over rated fielder and I NEVER complained about losing him. Tighten up your storylines. Donny is a good player but not a game changer and probably won’t return the foundational prospects I’ve been hearing about since the WS ended. But I guess we’ll see…. The point of this thread is determining whether he’s still HOT now that ‘26 is hereOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 18:29 pm+1 lol when Sonny and Contreras were signed he whined and complained about it said it was a waste of money then would post constantly about how much they suck and were a waste of money then bloom trades them and he immediately started whining and complaining saying they didn’t get anything for the players he said sucked. He for years said how much O’Neil sucks and how stupid mo was for keeping him mo traded him he hit 30 home runs elsewhere and the whole season he was saying how stupid mo was for trading him. He’s saying no one wants Donovan and he’s not much of a player but once he’s traded he will immediately be whining and complaining about how bloom traded him and how he didn’t get anything back for him.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:50 pm Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.
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You posted all the time about TO you have been doing nothing but complaining since gray and Contreras were traded. They sent 20 of the 35 million to the red Sox to get the prospects back that they did one which can contribute this season in the rotation and the other who has upside and is now the number 7 prospect in the rotation they then spent 12 million on may so they have saved what 3 million from his salary? Kind of stupid to say they were just dumping his salary when they only saved three million from it. They could have just took nothing burger prospects back and sent less money and not ever signed may and saved a lot of money on it. They are going to spend money saved on the Contreras trade also you will see. And once Donovan is traded you will wine and complain about that return also because that’s all you do that’s all you ever do I’ll bet you were one of the ones that said the cardinals would never win a World Series as long as Larussa was managing also because all you do is complainGoldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:59 pmI’m not sure about your comprehension…..yes I said often that WC and Gray were not good or appropriate signings…..and it proved out. I’m glad they’re gone…are you with me so far??? MY ISSUE IS That their salary slots have been evaporated. You celebrate that because you think Cards are restocking farm system…..I disagree that they are adding quality, and if they’re not who cares if they’re adding bodies. And I have never said I missed TO. Ole TO has managed to play over 100games twice in his illustrious career……he’ll be 31 this seasonOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:45 pmAbsolutely 100% true what I said. You started entire threads slamming Contreras over and over talked about how much underperforming he was as a first baseman said how stupid it was to sign him slammed gray over and over then when they are traded were you happy about it? Nope started whining and complaining about it and have been since. Same with O’Neil you absolutely when he was hitting his 30 home runs were complaining mo traded him. And you absurdly think that if a player hasn’t been traded or signed that means no one wants them or they aren’t a hot commodity and even start an entire absurd thread about itGoldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:15 pmOz, you’re better than that. With WC and Gray I said they were old, not as productive and impactful as portrayed, and wasn’t sad to see them go. I pointed out that the prospect return wasn’t much and their salary slots were(dumped) gone. TO was/is a walking injury who isn’t a very good hitter and an over rated fielder and I NEVER complained about losing him. Tighten up your storylines. Donny is a good player but not a game changer and probably won’t return the foundational prospects I’ve been hearing about since the WS ended. But I guess we’ll see…. The point of this thread is determining whether he’s still HOT now that ‘26 is hereOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 18:29 pm+1 lol when Sonny and Contreras were signed he whined and complained about it said it was a waste of money then would post constantly about how much they suck and were a waste of money then bloom trades them and he immediately started whining and complaining saying they didn’t get anything for the players he said sucked. He for years said how much O’Neil sucks and how stupid mo was for keeping him mo traded him he hit 30 home runs elsewhere and the whole season he was saying how stupid mo was for trading him. He’s saying no one wants Donovan and he’s not much of a player but once he’s traded he will immediately be whining and complaining about how bloom traded him and how he didn’t get anything back for him.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:50 pm Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.![]()
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The verdict will be out for a while as to how much quality was added.Goldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:59 pmI’m not sure about your comprehension…..yes I said often that WC and Gray were not good or appropriate signings…..and it proved out. I’m glad they’re gone…are you with me so far??? MY ISSUE IS That their salary slots have been evaporated. You celebrate that because you think Cards are restocking farm system…..I disagree that they are adding quality, and if they’re not who cares if they’re adding bodies. And I have never said I missed TO. Ole TO has managed to play over 100games twice in his illustrious career……he’ll be 31 this seasonOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:45 pmAbsolutely 100% true what I said. You started entire threads slamming Contreras over and over talked about how much underperforming he was as a first baseman said how stupid it was to sign him slammed gray over and over then when they are traded were you happy about it? Nope started whining and complaining about it and have been since. Same with O’Neil you absolutely when he was hitting his 30 home runs were complaining mo traded him. And you absurdly think that if a player hasn’t been traded or signed that means no one wants them or they aren’t a hot commodity and even start an entire absurd thread about itGoldfan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 19:15 pmOz, you’re better than that. With WC and Gray I said they were old, not as productive and impactful as portrayed, and wasn’t sad to see them go. I pointed out that the prospect return wasn’t much and their salary slots were(dumped) gone. TO was/is a walking injury who isn’t a very good hitter and an over rated fielder and I NEVER complained about losing him. Tighten up your storylines. Donny is a good player but not a game changer and probably won’t return the foundational prospects I’ve been hearing about since the WS ended. But I guess we’ll see…. The point of this thread is determining whether he’s still HOT now that ‘26 is hereOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 18:29 pm+1 lol when Sonny and Contreras were signed he whined and complained about it said it was a waste of money then would post constantly about how much they suck and were a waste of money then bloom trades them and he immediately started whining and complaining saying they didn’t get anything for the players he said sucked. He for years said how much O’Neil sucks and how stupid mo was for keeping him mo traded him he hit 30 home runs elsewhere and the whole season he was saying how stupid mo was for trading him. He’s saying no one wants Donovan and he’s not much of a player but once he’s traded he will immediately be whining and complaining about how bloom traded him and how he didn’t get anything back for him.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑02 Jan 2026 17:50 pm Bloom should make a trade regardless of whether or not he receives what he wants in return so Goldfan can spend the next couple of months complaining that the Cards didn't get enough for Donovan.![]()
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There's a chance that between the pitches that have and may be added that
the Cards get more quality starts in 2026 than Gray will give in 2026, which is a step
forward.
The odds of them adding any significant players with Gray, Contreras, Donovan,
and Arenado on the roster with their stated goals is probably near zero. What occurs
with a clean slate, we get to watch in real time.
To the point of your thread. We both understand the market. The lower the price
the hotter the market. As the price goes up many drop out. That's a little dynamic
if other options are added or subtracted in the market. Is that your definition of a cooling
market? Donovan has a ceiling in his return. I've maintained that POV,
but don't all? I expect a player considered good. It's possible that's already
been offered, all we really know is that Blooms favorite return has yet to
be offered.