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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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I remember how ASOGG used to post about how great the Hayes acquisition was. Times are a changing.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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lol, Chinakhov sucks. Way to have the thread backfire on you
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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2forDiving wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:36 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
Does this mean you have moved on from whining about the Jiricek selection? That you need to go back 3 years to find something to gripe about?
Are you kidding. I'm still 1000% miffed about Jiricek.

Because of Army's late season winning.

St Louis got Jiricek in the draft instead of
Zeev Buium or Zayne Parekh

I've not seen that much to be impressed about in the WJC with Jiricek. I'll take Zeev Buium, thank you.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:56 am
2forDiving wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:36 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
Does this mean you have moved on from whining about the Jiricek selection? That you need to go back 3 years to find something to gripe about?
Are you kidding. I'm still 1000% miffed about Jiricek.

Because of Army's late season winning.

St Louis got Jiricek in the draft instead of
Zeev Buium or Zayne Parekh

I've not seen that much to be impressed about in the WJC with Jiricek. I'll take Zeev Buium, thank you.
You haven’t watched a single second of it
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
The '26 2rd pick paid for Broberg and is still available in Columbus if you'd like to get it back.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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tfriede2 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:58 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:56 am
2forDiving wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:36 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
Does this mean you have moved on from whining about the Jiricek selection? That you need to go back 3 years to find something to gripe about?
Are you kidding. I'm still 1000% miffed about Jiricek.

Because of Army's late season winning.

St Louis got Jiricek in the draft instead of
Zeev Buium or Zayne Parekh

I've not seen that much to be impressed about in the WJC with Jiricek. I'll take Zeev Buium, thank you.
You haven’t watched a single second of it
You better get a more high-powered scope on me.

Jiricek is possibly not even the best defender on Czechia. Galvas has 2 goals and 5 assists and is +3. Galvas is a much better puck-mover than Jiricek is.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 11:07 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
The '26 2rd pick paid for Broberg and is still available in Columbus if you'd like to get it back.
Hayes cost us a Round 2 pick. Are you denying that?

Broberg is a future transaction that had nothing to do with Hayes. Broberg could have been acquired much more easily if Army had not FRITTERED AWAY THAT Hayes Round 2 pick.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 09:53 am
Whatashame wrote: 02 Jan 2026 09:39 am There’s a lot of things that would happen without you, mostly good. How do you live a life every day when your goal for the day is to troll an anonymous fan forum.

If you don’t like someone, that’s fine but can’t you just let it go at that. You give yourself way too much credit for what you think you are bringing to the table. You ruin most of the discussions you take part in daily. People have tried to tell you as much but you just ignore them to continue to ruin this forum.

Enjoy the day. Even in January there are lots of things to do.
Anyone that doesn't want to hear the truth can put me on ignore. It's that simple.

As far as what I bring. I fight for hockey in St Louis. I don't accept cheap answers from Blues management.

You mistake my hate for Army for love of hockey in St Louis.

I don’t mistake anything from you. You don’t love Blues hockey, you trash everything around it. Just read this thread. People are trying to tell you that you are a bore. You take situations and bring part truths, innuendos, and try and turn them around to meet your agenda. You beat dead horses into the ground. If you’re looking back, you aren’t moving forward. Again, everyone is trying to tell you something. Maybe just listen for a change.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Whatashame wrote: 02 Jan 2026 11:42 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 09:53 am
Whatashame wrote: 02 Jan 2026 09:39 am There’s a lot of things that would happen without you, mostly good. How do you live a life every day when your goal for the day is to troll an anonymous fan forum.

If you don’t like someone, that’s fine but can’t you just let it go at that. You give yourself way too much credit for what you think you are bringing to the table. You ruin most of the discussions you take part in daily. People have tried to tell you as much but you just ignore them to continue to ruin this forum.

Enjoy the day. Even in January there are lots of things to do.
Anyone that doesn't want to hear the truth can put me on ignore. It's that simple.

As far as what I bring. I fight for hockey in St Louis. I don't accept cheap answers from Blues management.

You mistake my hate for Army for love of hockey in St Louis.

I don’t mistake anything from you. You don’t love Blues hockey, you trash everything around it. Just read this thread. People are trying to tell you that you are a bore. You take situations and bring part truths, innuendos, and try and turn them around to meet your agenda. You beat dead horses into the ground. If you’re looking back, you aren’t moving forward. Again, everyone is trying to tell you something. Maybe just listen for a change.

I'm all ears....

The best teams have 2 TOP5 picks, and those picks are elite talent (e.g. MacKinnon Makar).

Army has said that he does not want top picks in the draft. His dream is to pick in the middle of the round. That is his sweet spot--despite the fact that their is zero proof that it yields anything above average talent.

Do you agree with Army on this approach?. My ears are all yours.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 11:15 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 11:07 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
The '26 2rd pick paid for Broberg and is still available in Columbus if you'd like to get it back.
Hayes cost us a Round 2 pick. Are you denying that?

Broberg is a future transaction that had nothing to do with Hayes. Broberg could have been acquired much more easily if Army had not FRITTERED AWAY THAT Hayes Round 2 pick.
Your glass is half-empty.

Army had the offer sheets planned in advance of the Hayes trade and made the Hayes trade because of forward thinking.

The offer sheets came out of nowhere.

You seem more of a hindsight kinda person and that's fine.

Do you ever spend as seemingly as much time looking into the future at trade possibilities the Blues should do?

Evidently not.

Just on and on day after day with half-empty judgements of what you think went wrong.

What you think could've been.

And what you think should've been.

Woe is you.

You are correct in your hindsight thinking that Broberg was a future transaction.

I'll give you that.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Dear ASOGG,

I’ve been a Bleed Blue fan since 1968. I remember when Seth Martin was Glenn Hall’s backup in goal. Ron Schock’s midnight goal to send us into the Cup Final in ‘68. Yeah, I’m ancient.

Like you, I think Armstrong has done a pisz poor job over the last 5 years.

But unlike you, I don’t post incessantly over it.

We get it. Many of us agree. So, please limit these comments because honestly, it’s just tiring. Maybe once every other week or so. While some low grunt associated with Blues management might read this board, I doubt they’ll do much about it. I offer my friendly advice as a fellow Blues Talk colleague, not trying to flame you.

Trust me, I’m totally agree aggravated at Armstrong and Zimmerman. Mr. Stillman better start reading the room and avoid emulating the Cardinals.

Thanks in advance,
HW72
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:56 am
2forDiving wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:36 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
Does this mean you have moved on from whining about the Jiricek selection? That you need to go back 3 years to find something to gripe about?
Are you kidding. I'm still 1000% miffed about Jiricek.

Because of Army's late season winning.

St Louis got Jiricek in the draft instead of
Zeev Buium or Zayne Parekh

I've not seen that much to be impressed about in the WJC with Jiricek. I'll take Zeev Buium, thank you.
Then you are hockey illiterate. He’s widely regarded at this point to be the best dman in the tournament, why do I bother with you?
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:56 am
2forDiving wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:36 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
Does this mean you have moved on from whining about the Jiricek selection? That you need to go back 3 years to find something to gripe about?
Are you kidding. I'm still 1000% miffed about Jiricek.

Because of Army's late season winning.

St Louis got Jiricek in the draft instead of
Zeev Buium or Zayne Parekh

I've not seen that much to be impressed about in the WJC with Jiricek. I'll take Zeev Buium, thank you.
You said last year in the late Winter-early Spring, in your own words that you, ..."were sick and tired and that you would no longer post on this Forum until Armstrong was gone."
Your voluminous posts you have subsequently made since your declaration have definitely confirmed that you are sick.
And your voluminous posts since your promise have proven that you have no credibility.
Seek help.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Hazelwood72 wrote: 02 Jan 2026 11:58 am Dear ASOGG,

I’ve been a Bleed Blue fan since 1968. I remember when Seth Martin was Glenn Hall’s backup in goal. Ron Schock’s midnight goal to send us into the Cup Final in ‘68. Yeah, I’m ancient.

Like you, I think Armstrong has done a pisz poor job over the last 5 years.

But unlike you, I don’t post incessantly over it.

We get it. Many of us agree. So, please limit these comments because honestly, it’s just tiring. Maybe once every other week or so. While some low grunt associated with Blues management might read this board, I doubt they’ll do much about it. I offer my friendly advice as a fellow Blues Talk colleague, not trying to flame you.

Trust me, I’m totally agree aggravated at Armstrong and Zimmerman. Mr. Stillman better start reading the room and avoid emulating the Cardinals.

Thanks in advance,
HW72
Ok. I understand. I'll back it off some.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Old_Goat wrote: 02 Jan 2026 13:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:56 am
2forDiving wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:36 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
Does this mean you have moved on from whining about the Jiricek selection? That you need to go back 3 years to find something to gripe about?
Are you kidding. I'm still 1000% miffed about Jiricek.

Because of Army's late season winning.

St Louis got Jiricek in the draft instead of
Zeev Buium or Zayne Parekh

I've not seen that much to be impressed about in the WJC with Jiricek. I'll take Zeev Buium, thank you.
You said last year in the late Winter-early Spring, in your own words that you, ..."were sick and tired and that you would no longer post on this Forum until Armstrong was gone."
Your voluminous posts you have subsequently made since your declaration have definitely confirmed that you are sick.
And your voluminous posts since your promise have proven that you have no credibility.
Seek help.
He also said he would leave forever if the blues won a playoff game last season.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Old_Goat wrote: 02 Jan 2026 13:27 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:56 am
2forDiving wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:36 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
Does this mean you have moved on from whining about the Jiricek selection? That you need to go back 3 years to find something to gripe about?
Are you kidding. I'm still 1000% miffed about Jiricek.

Because of Army's late season winning.

St Louis got Jiricek in the draft instead of
Zeev Buium or Zayne Parekh

I've not seen that much to be impressed about in the WJC with Jiricek. I'll take Zeev Buium, thank you.
You said last year in the late Winter-early Spring, in your own words that you, ..."were sick and tired and that you would no longer post on this Forum until Armstrong was gone."
Your voluminous posts you have subsequently made since your declaration have definitely confirmed that you are sick.
And your voluminous posts since your promise have proven that you have no credibility.
Seek help.
Good call, OG.
Add that to his grandstanding post- based on his own faith in his pish
poor judgement- that if the Blues made the playoffs, he would quit the board.

(bleep) poor judgement and a lack of honor… what’s not to like?
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