Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

And so the Kevin Hayes/Doug Armstrong debacle continues...

The Penguins parlayed the Kevin Hayes 2nd-round pick into Chinakov. Army made a huge personnel and salary mistake in Kevin Hayes, and to cover up that mistake he made a desperate trade with Pittsburg. The trade accomplished NOTHING for the Blues EXCEPT to get rid of Army's mistake.

https://www.pensburgh.com/analysis/7098 ... e-upgrades

And don't forget Sports Fans... This saga rages forward. That 2026 Rd 2 pick may be a dandy as well. That is yet more price to pay for Blues fans.

Moral of the story...
Next time. Before you write a comment about the "RISK of a TOP5 pick", consider the risk of the alternatives. Never forget the Kevin Hayes debacle.

Moving forward...
Has anyone asked Army how he plans to acquire an elite 1C? I ask because another Kevin Hayes debacle may arise in our future.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Chinakhov has 6 points this season.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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As a Pens fan this was a questionable trade. Pens need young scoring wings but Chinakov is highly suspect at this point. Not happy with this deal at all. As a Blues fan we will miss that 2nd rounder this upcoming summer. Must sell Faulk and Schenn by the deadline.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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What each fan base received thanks to Doug Armstrong's fleecing.

St Louis
- We lost our high 2026 2nd round pick so that we could all forget Army's Kevin Hayes mistake.

Pittsburg
- Chinakov

Columbus
- St Louis's 2026 2nd Round pick. Watch the better players at this year's WJC. It will be one of those guys.

Moral of the story:
The value of erasing Army mistakes is pretty high.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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It'd be nice if the moderators would do their jobs.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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The EDM offer sheets had absolutely everything to do with the future considerations acquired in the Hayes deal.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Jeff Goldblum wrote: 02 Jan 2026 08:51 am It'd be nice if the moderators would do their jobs.
Without me, how would the BluesTalk forum find out that the fan bases in Pittsburg and Columbus know that Doug Armstrong got fleeced?
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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3 posts within this thread that refute the thread substance yet no response to any of them just more nonsense keeps coming.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Much rather have Dylan Holloway than Chinakhov.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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There’s a lot of things that would happen without you, mostly good. How do you live a life every day when your goal for the day is to troll an anonymous fan forum.

If you don’t like someone, that’s fine but can’t you just let it go at that. You give yourself way too much credit for what you think you are bringing to the table. You ruin most of the discussions you take part in daily. People have tried to tell you as much but you just ignore them to continue to ruin this forum.

Enjoy the day. Even in January there are lots of things to do.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Jeff Goldblum wrote: 02 Jan 2026 08:51 am It'd be nice if the moderators would do their jobs.

To be fair, I don’t think they can force him to take his meds
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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sdaltons wrote: 02 Jan 2026 09:29 am Much rather have Dylan Holloway than Chinakhov.
I'd rather have Holloway AND our 2026 Round 2 pick.

Because of Army's bungling with Kevin Hayes, we lost our Round 2 pick.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Whatashame wrote: 02 Jan 2026 09:39 am There’s a lot of things that would happen without you, mostly good. How do you live a life every day when your goal for the day is to troll an anonymous fan forum.

If you don’t like someone, that’s fine but can’t you just let it go at that. You give yourself way too much credit for what you think you are bringing to the table. You ruin most of the discussions you take part in daily. People have tried to tell you as much but you just ignore them to continue to ruin this forum.

Enjoy the day. Even in January there are lots of things to do.
Anyone that doesn't want to hear the truth can put me on ignore. It's that simple.

As far as what I bring. I fight for hockey in St Louis. I don't accept cheap answers from Blues management.

You mistake my hate for Army for love of hockey in St Louis.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
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Re: Army Fleeced: Hayes and 2nd Round Pick for Chinakhov

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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:29 am
Midnight Ryder wrote: 02 Jan 2026 10:09 am Holloway and Broberg were obtained particularly with the 2nd rd pick that you're so fake upset about losing.

/thread
Broberg and Holloway were acquired from the Blues 2025 2nd round pick, not their 2026 Round 2.

No matter how you look at it...
Hayes cost the Blues the 2026 Round 2 pick.
Does this mean you have moved on from whining about the Jiricek selection? That you need to go back 3 years to find something to gripe about?
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