According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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I've never advocated for any type of deadlines to offseason activities, but I'm coning around to it. The MLB has a more "clunky" offseason than the NFL or the NBA. Everyone is so intent on leveraging the other party that you get this stagnation we see now.

The agents are going to leverage the teams to the bitter end for the top players. Ranger Suarez isn't going to sign until Framber Valdez signs. The lower tier free agents who might sign don't get offers because the teams want to see if their "plan A" works out. Someone like Arenado can't be traded for the same reason. A pitcher like Imai has no offers yet because the teams are leveraging him- they know he has to have a deal by Friday, so they wait to the bitter end. Donovan (and others) don't get traded because the team is leveraging the interested teams against each other. They will do this until the bitter end.

Perhaps MLB should take control of its' calendar, and decide when the bitter end will be. They could have different deadlines for different activities to spread out the activity and create some actual activity. Maybe that would be more interesting to fans.
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
Just a lot of comments that "its still early", "its not Christmas yet", "its not January yet". Now it is. The clock's ticking.
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:54 pm
3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
Just a lot of comments that "its still early", "its not Christmas yet", "its not January yet". Now it is. The clock's ticking.
lol so you think they are done I guarantee they are not you will see and so will all the impatient everything has to be done immediately at the beginning of the offseason crowd and never listen to ChatGPT
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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chatgpt? lol you're pathetic.
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
We should use AI (Actual Intelligence) often.
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:54 pm
3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
Just a lot of comments that "its still early", "its not Christmas yet", "its not January yet". Now it is. The clock's ticking.
So you're appealing to ChatGPT as an authority in an effort to make those people as anxious as you?

There's a lot going on there.
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:57 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:54 pm
3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
Just a lot of comments that "its still early", "its not Christmas yet", "its not January yet". Now it is. The clock's ticking.
lol so you think they are done I guarantee they are not you will see and so will all the impatient everything has to be done immediately at the beginning of the offseason crowd and never listen to ChatGPT
I doubt Boras uses ChatGPT! :D
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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Just Whit wrote: 31 Dec 2025 15:53 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:57 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:54 pm
3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
Just a lot of comments that "its still early", "its not Christmas yet", "its not January yet". Now it is. The clock's ticking.
lol so you think they are done I guarantee they are not you will see and so will all the impatient everything has to be done immediately at the beginning of the offseason crowd and never listen to ChatGPT
I doubt Boras uses ChatGPT! :D
lol no kidding. It’s also ridiculous to compare this offseason to any other offseason for the cardinals because this is the first time the cardinals have entered a rebuild and they have a POBO committed to the rebuild and want half (donkey) it. There are a lot more moves coming both in trades and signings. But this is the ADHD need instant gratification age so if things don’t happen immediately they think it’s not going to happen
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Re: According to ChatGPT, we've passed the midpoint of trade activity for the offseason

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3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 15:22 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:54 pm
3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
Just a lot of comments that "its still early", "its not Christmas yet", "its not January yet". Now it is. The clock's ticking.
So you're appealing to ChatGPT as an authority in an effort to make those people as anxious as you?

There's a lot going on there.
I'm not anxious. The clock simply means the odds increase by the day that certain players might still be on our roster on opening day. The questions have been asked numberous times in other threads. Have fun integrating historical trends into your expectations for the remainder of the offseason.
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:57 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:54 pm
3dender wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Dec 2025 14:17 pm More trades generally happen before January 1st, with the peak of activity centered around the annual Winter Meetings in December. The period between Christmas and New Year's Day is typically an unofficial pause, and while trades still occur in January, the volume is lower than in the period leading up to the Winter Meetings.
Key timing considerations:
November: The offseason begins right after the World Series, with the trade freeze lifted and the General Managers (GM) Meetings providing an initial forum for groundwork discussions.
December: The Winter Meetings, usually held in mid-December, are historically the busiest period of the offseason, featuring a flurry of trades and free-agent signings as GMs and agents meet face-to-face. Most significant trades tend to happen in December.
Late December/Early January: Activity significantly slows down during the holiday week.
January/February: The market picks up again after the new year, but the pace is often slower and centered more around free-agent signings, arbitration deadlines, and teams that missed out on primary targets. The trade market at this time may involve teams feeling more pressure as Spring Training approaches.
Is there a single piece of information there that you didn't already know?
Just a lot of comments that "its still early", "its not Christmas yet", "its not January yet". Now it is. The clock's ticking.
lol so you think they are done I guarantee they are not you will see and so will all the impatient everything has to be done immediately at the beginning of the offseason crowd and never listen to ChatGPT
I agree they are not finished making moves. Bloom may even make changes to the roster during ST. But I think many fans are used to Mo's pattern of making one or two early moves and then disappearing into hibernation mode.
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