Gorman / Saggese platoon

[rockondlouie]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

You may see enough of Gorman to cry "Uncle"

[rockondlouie]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

You may see enough of Gorman to cry "Uncle"

Oh I'm crying already TB

But it's pretty clear they're going to give Gorman (and J. Walker) starting positions and they either sink or swim.

Not what me (or likely you) want but it does seem to be the 2026 plan.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

I’m muffed. Face first. Nose deep.

You are a college level infielder. I would think you would see what others are saying. There has to be better.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

I’ve seen enough of Gorman. I have not given up on Saggese.

I'm not sure how we are still stuck on Gorman. The hopium is strong on this one.

[rockondlouie]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

I’m muffed. Face first. Nose deep.

You are a college level infielder. I would think you would see what others are saying. There has to be better.

Oh I see it clearly BDog

As I stated above to TB, NOT what I would do.

But it's becoming apparent they're going to give Gorman (and Walker) F-T positions in this "re-build" season.

Trust me, their defense is pathetic and their hitting not much better.

But as I've said for some time now, these two are on Mo's resume and C. Bloom has no equity stake in either.

He can cut the cord, maybe as early as mid season, and dump one or both on any taker w/o any blowback.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

I’m muffed. Face first. Nose deep.

You are a college level infielder. I would think you would see what others are saying. There has to be better.

Oh I see it clearly BDog

As I stated above to TB, NOT what I would do.

But it's becoming apparent they're going to give Gorman (and Walker) F-T positions in this "re-build" season.

Trust me, their defense is pathetic and their hitting not much better.

But as I've said for some time now, these two are on Mo's resume and C. Bloom has no equity stake in either.

He can cut the cord, maybe as early as mid season, and dump one or both on any taker w/o any blowback.

Ok. That’s a mighty fair response. I agree on the skin in the game. Walker and Gorman surely must be on mental notice.

[11WSChamps]

Not excited about two subpar flawed players.

But we have a lot of those.

[rockondlouie]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

I’m muffed. Face first. Nose deep.

You are a college level infielder. I would think you would see what others are saying. There has to be better.

Oh I see it clearly BDog

As I stated above to TB, NOT what I would do.

But it's becoming apparent they're going to give Gorman (and Walker) F-T positions in this "re-build" season.

Trust me, their defense is pathetic and their hitting not much better.

But as I've said for some time now, these two are on Mo's resume and C. Bloom has no equity stake in either.

He can cut the cord, maybe as early as mid season, and dump one or both on any taker w/o any blowback.

Ok. That’s a mighty fair response. I agree on the skin in the game. Walker and Gorman surely must be on mental notice.

BEST Case
They figure it out and at their low salaries become contributors

WORST Case
They s u c k (again) and Bloom dumps them mid or end of the season on any team for a lotto ticket prospect

Given the telegraphed state of the 2026 season (re: BDWJr will spend little to no money other than off the books contracts Bloom can deal), this is what we're going to see this coming season.

Not what any of us want (rebuild) but given the state of the organization it's the only real path to take.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

I’m muffed. Face first. Nose deep.

You are a college level infielder. I would think you would see what others are saying. There has to be better.

Oh I see it clearly BDog

As I stated above to TB, NOT what I would do.

But it's becoming apparent they're going to give Gorman (and Walker) F-T positions in this "re-build" season.

Trust me, their defense is pathetic and their hitting not much better.

But as I've said for some time now, these two are on Mo's resume and C. Bloom has no equity stake in either.

He can cut the cord, maybe as early as mid season, and dump one or both on any taker w/o any blowback.

Someone who understands the concept of sunk cost run the org. What a luxury!

[sikeston bulldog2]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

I’m muffed. Face first. Nose deep.

You are a college level infielder. I would think you would see what others are saying. There has to be better.

Oh I see it clearly BDog

As I stated above to TB, NOT what I would do.

But it's becoming apparent they're going to give Gorman (and Walker) F-T positions in this "re-build" season.

Trust me, their defense is pathetic and their hitting not much better.

But as I've said for some time now, these two are on Mo's resume and C. Bloom has no equity stake in either.

He can cut the cord, maybe as early as mid season, and dump one or both on any taker w/o any blowback.

Ok. That’s a mighty fair response. I agree on the skin in the game. Walker and Gorman surely must be on mental notice.

BEST Case
They figure it out and at their low salaries become contributors

WORST Case
They s u c k (again) and Bloom dumps them mid or end of the season on any team for a lotto ticket prospect

Given the telegraphed state of the 2026 season (re: BDWJr will spend little to no money other than off the books contracts Bloom can deal), this is what we're going to see this coming season.

Not what any of us want (rebuild) but given the state of the organization it's the only real path to take.

We got in too deep. The old template isn’t bold enough to save us. We need a newer strong template for the rebuild and hence the future.

Save my life I’m going down for the last time. Something like that.

[rockondlouie]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

I’m muffed. Face first. Nose deep.

You are a college level infielder. I would think you would see what others are saying. There has to be better.

Oh I see it clearly BDog

As I stated above to TB, NOT what I would do.

But it's becoming apparent they're going to give Gorman (and Walker) F-T positions in this "re-build" season.

Trust me, their defense is pathetic and their hitting not much better.

But as I've said for some time now, these two are on Mo's resume and C. Bloom has no equity stake in either.

He can cut the cord, maybe as early as mid season, and dump one or both on any taker w/o any blowback.

Someone who understands the concept of sunk cost run the org. What a luxury!

Amazes me how BDWJr, a brilliant businessman, never seemed to grasp this simply accounting principle when it comes to his players.

[rockondlouie]

Saggese isn't going to be at 2nd base or platooning w/Gorman, he's nothing more than a back of the bench player.

Saggese is J.A.G.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base, Gorman at 3rd base.

I’m muffed. Face first. Nose deep.

You are a college level infielder. I would think you would see what others are saying. There has to be better.

Oh I see it clearly BDog

As I stated above to TB, NOT what I would do.

But it's becoming apparent they're going to give Gorman (and Walker) F-T positions in this "re-build" season.

Trust me, their defense is pathetic and their hitting not much better.

But as I've said for some time now, these two are on Mo's resume and C. Bloom has no equity stake in either.

He can cut the cord, maybe as early as mid season, and dump one or both on any taker w/o any blowback.

Ok. That’s a mighty fair response. I agree on the skin in the game. Walker and Gorman surely must be on mental notice.

BEST Case
They figure it out and at their low salaries become contributors

WORST Case
They s u c k (again) and Bloom dumps them mid or end of the season on any team for a lotto ticket prospect

Given the telegraphed state of the 2026 season (re: BDWJr will spend little to no money other than off the books contracts Bloom can deal), this is what we're going to see this coming season.

Not what any of us want (rebuild) but given the state of the organization it's the only real path to take.

We got in too deep. The old template isn’t bold enough to save us. We need a newer strong template for the rebuild and hence the future.

Save my life I’m going down for the last time. Something like that.

IMO BDog BDWJr/Mo were drowning in their past success, content to live in the past as long as 3M kept coming.

Bad business plan not to replace upper management when it clearly had become stale (I've railed about this for many years) and bring in a fresh set of eye's.

The strong template is here, C. Bloom is doing a great job rebuilding the minor league system:

Cardinals' farm system sweeps Baseball America's most improved awards
Have a year, Chaim Bloom!
By
Josh Jacobs

https://redbirdrants.com/cardinals-farm ... ved-awards

[Cardinals4Life]

I’ve seen enough of Gorman. I have not given up on Saggese.

Yep. Let Saggese have some runway.

[An Old Friend]

I’ve seen enough of Gorman. I have not given up on Saggese.

Yep. Let Saggese have some runway.

But why Saggese over Fermin?

Fermin in 126 games at Memphis:
.305 AVG, .426 OBP, 146 wRC+ with 15 HR, 36 doubles, 38 SB, and a sterling 79:47 strikeout to walk ratio

That's what EARNING an opportunity looks like.

[Talkin' Baseball]

I’ve seen enough of Gorman. I have not given up on Saggese.

Yep. Let Saggese have some runway.

But why Saggese over Fermin?

Fermin in 126 games at Memphis:
.305 AVG, .426 OBP, 146 wRC+ with 15 HR, 36 doubles, 38 SB, and a sterling 79:47 strikeout to walk ratio

That's what EARNING an opportunity looks like.

He has succeeded at anything they've asked him to do.