Parayko/Edmonton Trade Scenario

[skilles]

Only way I'm trading Parayko is if I'm getting our next #1 defender in return.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

Any trade that brings back and takes on jarry and/or frederic is grounds for termination. Parayko is a number one defender. Not worth a Hughes but that doesn't mean we accept someone else's [shirt] contracts. Jarry lol. A patrick lalime flashback.

[theograce]

Parayko is a number one defender.

Broberg, who is pacing for 26 points is playing a bit more than him.

The reality is Parayko isn’t a true #1 and never has been. He can eat minutes and play a shutdown role.

[crookedfeeder]

Any trade that brings back and takes on jarry and/or frederic is grounds for termination. Parayko is a number one defender. Not worth a Hughes but that doesn't mean we accept someone else's [shirt] contracts. Jarry lol. A patrick lalime flashback.

Relax! Jarry would be a throw in (obviously). It doesn't matter really; Edmonton has next to nothing we would want outside of picks.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

Any trade that brings back and takes on jarry and/or frederic is grounds for termination. Parayko is a number one defender. Not worth a Hughes but that doesn't mean we accept someone else's [shirt] contracts. Jarry lol. A patrick lalime flashback.

Relax! Jarry would be a throw in (obviously). It doesn't matter really; Edmonton has next to nothing we would want outside of picks.

A throw in? 5.375 aav through 2028. After he signed hia deal he had to "find" his game in the minors. The last thing we want is this throw in. Dubas rehabs himself in getting rid of that deal by taking skinner whose deal is up at the end of the season.

[noted]

Saw this after the kids turned our house into a gift wrap and cardboard graveyard. This musing courtesy of Chris Johnston of the Athletic.

According to The Athletic, any trade for Parayko would likely involve a first-round pick, a mid-round pick, a prospect, and a roster player to help balance the salaries.

Link

Just fyi - this doesn’t appear anywhere on the Athletic as quoted…no where on that site and no where in any of Chris Johnson’s articles is Parayko mentioned

[TheHighHat]

Blues should be looking at Philly as a trade partner. They have drafted extremely well the last few years and are loaded with quality prospects. Briere is going to do everything possible to get them over the hump this year. Parayko would be a great addition for them…maybe even Binner. As a trade partner for us it’s a match made in heaven..

I disagree.

Yes, the East is jumbled up but the Flyers are nowhere near ready yet to make a move for a guy like Parayko.

Briere has been on the record in the past about going thru a rebuild the correct way which will ultimately bring the Flyers sustained contender status. I get it that the fan base in Philly will get vocal about winning now, but Briere needs to stick to his guns and play the long game.

The Flyers need a 1C and a legit 2C before they're ready to be contenders for years.
They need Luchanko and/or Nesbitt to at least turn into a 2C.

Ideally Briere would love to find a team that thinks that Couturier is their answer at 2C.
It would be hard to trade him without some retention though since there is so much term left for a guy that produces like a 3C.
Konecny is the obvious choice to take over as their captain if Briere can dump Couturier.

The Flyers organizational strength right now is without question wingers.
They have a great mix of big and small wingers.

Under 24 years old:
M. Michkov
T. Foerster (out for the year)
P. Martone
S. Vansaghi
D. Barkey
A. Bump
J. Murtagh

They still have veteran wingers Konecny and Tippett early in long term contracts.
It will be interesting to see what they do with Zegras.

If Philly fades by the TDL look for Briere to try to acquire more high picks for the next couple of drafts.
The Flyers, similar to the Blues, need to draft more d-men and centers.

Legit Cup contenders are the teams calling Army about CP55.

[Pierre McGuire]

Saw this after the kids turned our house into a gift wrap and cardboard graveyard. This musing courtesy of Chris Johnston of the Athletic.

According to The Athletic, any trade for Parayko would likely involve a first-round pick, a mid-round pick, a prospect, and a roster player to help balance the salaries.

Link

Just fyi - this doesn’t appear anywhere on the Athletic as quoted…no where on that site and no where in any of Chris Johnson’s articles is Parayko mentioned

He mentions it right here in an article that he and JR wrote
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/684592 ... big-names/

[Pierre McGuire]

Blues should be looking at Philly as a trade partner. They have drafted extremely well the last few years and are loaded with quality prospects. Briere is going to do everything possible to get them over the hump this year. Parayko would be a great addition for them…maybe even Binner. As a trade partner for us it’s a match made in heaven..

I disagree.

Yes, the East is jumbled up but the Flyers are nowhere near ready yet to make a move for a guy like Parayko.

Briere has been on the record in the past about going thru a rebuild the correct way which will ultimately bring the Flyers sustained contender status. I get it that the fan base in Philly will get vocal about winning now, but Briere needs to stick to his guns and play the long game.

The Flyers need a 1C and a legit 2C before they're ready to be contenders for years.
They need Luchanko and/or Nesbitt to at least turn into a 2C.

Ideally Briere would love to find a team that thinks that Couturier is their answer at 2C.
It would be hard to trade him without some retention though since there is so much term left for a guy that produces like a 3C.
Konecny is the obvious choice to take over as their captain if Briere can dump Couturier.

The Flyers organizational strength right now is without question wingers.
They have a great mix of big and small wingers.

Under 24 years old:
M. Michkov
T. Foerster (out for the year)
P. Martone
S. Vansaghi
D. Barkey
A. Bump
J. Murtagh

They still have veteran wingers Konecny and Tippett early in long term contracts.
It will be interesting to see what they do with Zegras.

If Philly fades by the TDL look for Briere to try to acquire more high picks for the next couple of drafts.
The Flyers, similar to the Blues, need to draft more d-men and centers.

Legit Cup contenders are the teams calling Army about CP55.

Flyers on on the verge of the playoffs and Briere wants to put them in a position to make that leap and they are loaded with quality prospects and they are exactly who the Blues should be targeting assets from. Briere is going to do everything possible so they don’t fade by the deadline. Army should be fired immediately if he were to trade Parayko to Edmonton.

[TheHighHat]

To me, he has easily been one of the most disappointing Blues players so far this season. I’m pretty sure he will be on the Olympic team, but he definitely doesn’t deserve it.

I agree 100%

Parayko seems Ike the type of player that looks really good when surrounded with other good d-men to hide his deficiencies.
He looks pedestrian when surrounded by guys that are having bad years or just don't have top 4 ability.

[noted]

Saw this after the kids turned our house into a gift wrap and cardboard graveyard. This musing courtesy of Chris Johnston of the Athletic.

According to The Athletic, any trade for Parayko would likely involve a first-round pick, a mid-round pick, a prospect, and a roster player to help balance the salaries.

Link

Just fyi - this doesn’t appear anywhere on the Athletic as quoted…no where on that site and no where in any of Chris Johnson’s articles is Parayko mentioned

He mentions it right here in an article that he and JR wrote
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/684592 ... big-names/

My bad. Didn’t see that and doesn’t come up when search Chris Johnston articles. Parayko is not on Johnston’s big trade board though and do not believe his name is out there. CJ was specifically asked about Parayko by JR and just threw that out there. His what it would take would not get it done from a team like Edm who doesn’t even have a 1st rd pick until 2027.

[TheHighHat]

Blues should be looking at Philly as a trade partner. They have drafted extremely well the last few years and are loaded with quality prospects. Briere is going to do everything possible to get them over the hump this year. Parayko would be a great addition for them…maybe even Binner. As a trade partner for us it’s a match made in heaven..

I disagree.

Yes, the East is jumbled up but the Flyers are nowhere near ready yet to make a move for a guy like Parayko.

Briere has been on the record in the past about going thru a rebuild the correct way which will ultimately bring the Flyers sustained contender status. I get it that the fan base in Philly will get vocal about winning now, but Briere needs to stick to his guns and play the long game.

The Flyers need a 1C and a legit 2C before they're ready to be contenders for years.
They need Luchanko and/or Nesbitt to at least turn into a 2C.

Ideally Briere would love to find a team that thinks that Couturier is their answer at 2C.
It would be hard to trade him without some retention though since there is so much term left for a guy that produces like a 3C.
Konecny is the obvious choice to take over as their captain if Briere can dump Couturier.

The Flyers organizational strength right now is without question wingers.
They have a great mix of big and small wingers.

Under 24 years old:
M. Michkov
T. Foerster (out for the year)
P. Martone
S. Vansaghi
D. Barkey
A. Bump
J. Murtagh

They still have veteran wingers Konecny and Tippett early in long term contracts.
It will be interesting to see what they do with Zegras.

If Philly fades by the TDL look for Briere to try to acquire more high picks for the next couple of drafts.
The Flyers, similar to the Blues, need to draft more d-men and centers.

Legit Cup contenders are the teams calling Army about CP55.

Flyers on on the verge of the playoffs and Briere wants to put them in a position to make that leap and they are loaded with quality prospects and they are exactly who the Blues should be targeting assets from. Briere is going to do everything possible so they don’t fade by the deadline. Army should be fired immediately if he were to trade Parayko to Edmonton.

I don't see it big boy because the Flyers have garbage centers and mediocre at best goaltending.
But, I'll play along. What assets do you want back in the trade?

1st rounder in 2027, Bonk, and??

The Oilers don't have the assets.
The Canes do.

[Pierre McGuire]

Blues should be looking at Philly as a trade partner. They have drafted extremely well the last few years and are loaded with quality prospects. Briere is going to do everything possible to get them over the hump this year. Parayko would be a great addition for them…maybe even Binner. As a trade partner for us it’s a match made in heaven..

I disagree.

Yes, the East is jumbled up but the Flyers are nowhere near ready yet to make a move for a guy like Parayko.

Briere has been on the record in the past about going thru a rebuild the correct way which will ultimately bring the Flyers sustained contender status. I get it that the fan base in Philly will get vocal about winning now, but Briere needs to stick to his guns and play the long game.

The Flyers need a 1C and a legit 2C before they're ready to be contenders for years.
They need Luchanko and/or Nesbitt to at least turn into a 2C.

Ideally Briere would love to find a team that thinks that Couturier is their answer at 2C.
It would be hard to trade him without some retention though since there is so much term left for a guy that produces like a 3C.
Konecny is the obvious choice to take over as their captain if Briere can dump Couturier.

The Flyers organizational strength right now is without question wingers.
They have a great mix of big and small wingers.

Under 24 years old:
M. Michkov
T. Foerster (out for the year)
P. Martone
S. Vansaghi
D. Barkey
A. Bump
J. Murtagh

They still have veteran wingers Konecny and Tippett early in long term contracts.
It will be interesting to see what they do with Zegras.

If Philly fades by the TDL look for Briere to try to acquire more high picks for the next couple of drafts.
The Flyers, similar to the Blues, need to draft more d-men and centers.

Legit Cup contenders are the teams calling Army about CP55.

Flyers on on the verge of the playoffs and Briere wants to put them in a position to make that leap and they are loaded with quality prospects and they are exactly who the Blues should be targeting assets from. Briere is going to do everything possible so they don’t fade by the deadline. Army should be fired immediately if he were to trade Parayko to Edmonton.

I don't see it big boy because the Flyers have garbage centers and mediocre at best goaltending.
But, I'll play along. What assets do you want back in the trade?

1st rounder in 2027, Bonk, and??

The Oilers don't have the assets.
The Canes do.

All that matters is that we deal with a team that has the right assets. Parayko would be a perfect addition for the Flyers, a player they can get value out of for a few years. Goaltending is questionable for most teams. A goalie can’t win a cup….until he wins it. Vladar could get hot and go on run, who knows but it’s also why I mentioned Binner.
As for what I ask for from Philly for a deal involving Parayko, one of Luchanko or Nesbitt, I don’t necessarily think you have to get a dman back in a deal for Parayko. He should be dealt for the the best prospect possible…if the best player in any deal for him is a forward, you take that and run. Nesbitt is a player I would have a lot of interest in. I’d also ask for one of Barkey, Vansaghi, or Murtagh. I might have more interest in Spencer Gill if we want a dman included. Gard is a player I was high on on the draft last year, he’s off to a slow start but he’s a player i would still have interest in. My ask starts with Luchanko or Nesbitt though and we go from there.
Carolina doesn’t have the quality of top prospects that the Flyers have right now but they would make a better trading partner than a lot of teams.

[zamadoo]

Any trade that brings back and takes on jarry and/or frederic is grounds for termination. Parayko is a number one defender. Not worth a Hughes but that doesn't mean we accept someone else's [shirt] contracts. Jarry lol. A patrick lalime flashback.

When there were rumors about Binner to EDM, why did EDM trade Skinner, Kulak, and a 2nd for Jarry and Poulin?

Some things I thought about while reading through others' posts:

One of the main reasons Parayko is even discussed as an option to be traded to EDM time and time again is because he's from Alberta just outside Edmonton.

Another reason is that Edmonton has been in need of defensive help for what seems like a decade. Amazingly, they drafted Bouchard and signed him to $10M while letting Broberg walk at 24. So we're talking about having offer sheeted Broberg and now trading them hometown hero Parayko for whatever they have left. (better take Paul Fischer back, ha)

If Parayko wants to play there and a deal can be made, I'd be happy for him and think he would have late career success. Unfortuntely, with the cap situation the best anyone can do is try to add value and juggle contracts for an in-season deal like this, which is why they don't happen too often and speculation on this board is more for entertainment rather than propositions based on serious expectations.

[blues2112]

Parayko has one of the best contracts in the entire league. He is 6.5 million for 4 more years. No team is going to be willing to give up what it would take to acquire him.

In addition to the low cap hit, his actual dollar cost per season decreases.

He also has a full NTC through 2026-27, then M-NTC for the remainder.

And asserting (not you) that he'd waive his NTC to "return home" [to Edmonton] presumes to know a lot about him. I could be wrong about this, but I think he and his wife have a young child. Parenthood tends to ground people, but not always.

Trading Faulk or 55 moves every other RHD up the depth chart. Ugly.

Finally, he's done — and continues to do — cool things in St. Louis. (To presuppose a counter-point, he surely could continue this endeavor anywhere he goes, but the roots are here.) https://project-55.com/

[oldbattler]

Any trade that brings back and takes on jarry and/or frederic is grounds for termination. Parayko is a number one defender. Not worth a Hughes but that doesn't mean we accept someone else's [shirt] contracts. Jarry lol. A patrick lalime flashback.

When there were rumors about Binner to EDM, why did EDM trade Skinner, Kulak, and a 2nd for Jarry and Poulin?

Some things I thought about while reading through others' posts:

One of the main reasons Parayko is even discussed as an option to be traded to EDM time and time again is because he's from Alberta just outside Edmonton.

Another reason is that Edmonton has been in need of defensive help for what seems like a decade. Amazingly, they drafted Bouchard and signed him to $10M while letting Broberg walk at 24. So we're talking about having offer sheeted Broberg and now trading them hometown hero Parayko for whatever they have left. (better take Paul Fischer back, ha)

If Parayko wants to play there and a deal can be made, I'd be happy for him and think he would have late career success. Unfortuntely, with the cap situation the best anyone can do is try to add value and juggle contracts for an in-season deal like this, which is why they don't happen too often and speculation on this board is more for entertainment rather than propositions based on serious expectations.

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