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Re: Looks like Michigan OC might be headed to Mizzou

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We shall see whether he can elevate the passing game for one.
I did mention knowing and teaching and motivating. Some do it better than others. Lindsey looks to have had satisfied bosses over the years.

Missouri had the SEC's top rushing game and Hardy returns so that's a big chunk of the 2026 offense right there. Drinkwitz isn't going to get away from that. I don't know what a reasonable expectation for the passing game would be going forward.

But there's lots of room for new ideas and more imagination on the passing side, and more talent too. Zollers has the arm but no experience, they need to find or keep some WRs, and the line has to get better at pass pro. That's a pretty full plate.
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jcgmoi wrote: 22 Dec 2025 08:23 am
We shall see whether he can elevate the passing game for one.
I did mention knowing and teaching and motivating. Some do it better than others. Lindsey looks to have had satisfied bosses over the years.

Missouri had the SEC's top rushing game and Hardy returns so that's a big chunk of the 2026 offense right there. Drinkwitz isn't going to get away from that. I don't know what a reasonable expectation for the passing game would be going forward.

But there's lots of room for new ideas and more imagination on the passing side, and more talent too. Zollers has the arm but no experience, they need to find or keep some WRs, and the line has to get better at pass pro. That's a pretty full plate.
When that top rushing game got squished during the 4 losses and against Auburn, the offense struggled mightily. Those rushing stats got inflated against inferior opponents. More of the same will not be good enough. We shall see.
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Going to be more of the same. "Our identity is outside zone".
Nuke is a smart man.
He loves Mesh, Dagger, RPO Slant and zone blocking
Everyone uses those passing concepts. Nobody uses man all the time.
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And the outside zone run game has its limitations against elite defenses. Yes, the RB theoretically runs along until he sees a hole and darts forward. The trouble with that is that elite defenders see that hole as well and have the speed and size to close it. Navynuke is right. You need more to your running game than just outside zone. You have to mix it up.
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icon wrote: 22 Dec 2025 08:37 am And the outside zone run game has its limitations against elite defenses. Yes, the RB theoretically runs along until he sees a hole and darts forward. The trouble with that is that elite defenders see that hole as well and have the speed and size to close it. Navynuke is right. You need more to your running game than just outside zone. You have to mix it up.
Here's another example of a negative troll doing his thing.

First of all, elite defenses can limit any offensive scheme. Mizzou's is no different.

Secondly, Mizzou did mix it up and ran between the tackles much, much more this year with Hardy breaking tackles than in recent years.
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jcgmoi wrote: 22 Dec 2025 08:31 am
Going to be more of the same. "Our identity is outside zone".
Nuke is a smart man.
He loves Mesh, Dagger, RPO Slant and zone blocking
Everyone uses those passing concepts. Nobody uses man all the time.
Truncating quotes to match your viewpoint. Gotcha. Here's the whole navynuke quote:

Going to be more of the same. "Our identity is outside zone". The reality is that you have to be multiple in the run game. Offensive linemen are always blocking someone with an athleticism advantage. When that defender also knows where the play is going, they get to the spot first.

This is a meh hire.
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jcgmoi wrote: 21 Dec 2025 16:27 pm Lindsey answers yes to four questions.

Does he know the game? Can he teach what he knows? Can he motivate his people to play hard? Can he recruit?
Add one more yes.

Did he see that Hardy can break tackles whether it's running outside or inside?
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Why would he leave after only 1 year as OC at Michigan?
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rightthinker4 wrote: 22 Dec 2025 12:36 pm Why would he leave after only 1 year as OC at Michigan?
Have you been following what's going on in their football program?
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icon wrote: 22 Dec 2025 07:49 am Remember navynuke, a respected poster when he posted on here before he probably got tired of dealing with the roach? Well, now he is posting on SEC rant. And he had this to say about this hire.


Heupel's offense with Batoon's defense the last two years is a definite playoff team. Lindsey's offense has never been that explosive ever.

Lights up weak teams, loses to good teams. Sound familiar?

Drink had Ferrari money and bought a used Ford Explorer with 85k on it.


He also had this to say:


Going to be more of the same. "Our identity is outside zone". The reality is that you have to be multiple in the run game. Offensive linemen are always blocking someone with an athleticism advantage. When that defender also knows where the play is going, they get to the spot first.

This is a meh hire.


And this as well:

He loves Mesh, Dagger, RPO Slant and zone blocking......

Meh.


Nuke knows his football. I miss his takes on this board.
Yeah I know my football too.

Everybody has a right to a say.

What everyone here should know taking recruits out of high school or a year or two in college football that developing a lineman to be proficient at pass pro is exponentially harder to do than run blocking which you have to do in high school.

What they should also know is all the rule advantages go towards the offense thus the only way to stop most passing attacks is by sending more than your front four after the passer.

So knowing that the day of the traditional pocket passer is all but in the rear view mirror. Your QB has to be two dimensional.

So then we must know to keep the QB healthy you can't live in a perpetual 3rd and 7, 3rd and 8 so you have to run the football to stay hopefully in front of the sticks.

I haven't said anything about whether it's the right hire or not but I believe its a step in the right direction.

The key is and always will be having the right QB.

Pribula was a mistake. Hopefully next year's starter won't be.
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rightthinker4 wrote: 22 Dec 2025 12:36 pm Why would he leave after only 1 year as OC at Michigan?
Michigan is a dumpster fire. Between the cheating scandals and this, it is a few years rebuild. I am just watching Underwood closely to see if he stays.
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icon wrote: 22 Dec 2025 07:49 am Remember navynuke, a respected poster when he posted on here before he probably got tired of dealing with the roach? Well, now he is posting on SEC rant. And he had this to say about this hire.


Heupel's offense with Batoon's defense the last two years is a definite playoff team. Lindsey's offense has never been that explosive ever.

Lights up weak teams, loses to good teams. Sound familiar?

Drink had Ferrari money and bought a used Ford Explorer with 85k on it.


He also had this to say:


Going to be more of the same. "Our identity is outside zone". The reality is that you have to be multiple in the run game. Offensive linemen are always blocking someone with an athleticism advantage. When that defender also knows where the play is going, they get to the spot first.

This is a meh hire.


And this as well:

He loves Mesh, Dagger, RPO Slant and zone blocking......

Meh.


Nuke knows his football. I miss his takes on this board.
I miss the guy too, though I also recall getting into a debate when he was trashing Schrader as not ready for the SEC. (As to roach, it’s easy to deal, just ignore).

But to the point, if anyone has any doubts about whether this new OC will shake things up, just listen to our head coach:

“I’m not going to put any restrictions on the new offensive coordinator. As long as it fits into the offensive identity of who we are.” https://www.si.com/college/missouri/foo ... ou-offense

hmmm. Navy said it, and he’s right, a meh pick, and perfect person to continue Drink’s weaker passing offense philosophy that only GREAT players like Drake Maye or Luther Burden can transform into something better.
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